Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Dean Montevago
Just wanted to float this by the list.
I have to increase the size of the common page dataset on LPAR1. I plan
on bringing down LPAR1 and run a job on LPAR2 that will delete this page
dataset pointing LPAR1's maste, re-allocate it and format it, pointing
to LPAR2's master, and do a repro mergecat from LPAR2 to LPAR1. LPAR1's
master is a usercat in LPAR2. We do this at DR for the local page
datasets and it works, so I think it will work for the common page
dataset. Any thoughts ?
TIA
Dean 

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Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Another possibility : while LPAR1 is still running, allocate (and
format) a new common page data set with a different name.  Change
IEASYSxx to the new data set name, IPL LPAR1.

Don Imbriale

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Just wanted to float this by the list.
I have to increase the size of the common page dataset on LPAR1. I plan
on bringing down LPAR1 and run a job on LPAR2 that will delete this page
dataset pointing LPAR1's maste, re-allocate it and format it, pointing
to LPAR2's master, and do a repro mergecat from LPAR2 to LPAR1. LPAR1's
master is a usercat in LPAR2. We do this at DR for the local page
datasets and it works, so I think it will work for the common page
dataset. Any thoughts ?



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Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Dean Montevago
Ahh !!! 
Thanks

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Another possibility : while LPAR1 is still running, allocate (and
format) a new common page data set with a different name.  Change
IEASYSxx to the new data set name, IPL LPAR1.

Don Imbriale

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Subject: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

Just wanted to float this by the list.
I have to increase the size of the common page dataset on LPAR1. I plan
on bringing down LPAR1 and run a job on LPAR2 that will delete this page
dataset pointing LPAR1's maste, re-allocate it and format it, pointing
to LPAR2's master, and do a repro mergecat from LPAR2 to LPAR1. LPAR1's
master is a usercat in LPAR2. We do this at DR for the local page
datasets and it works, so I think it will work for the common page
dataset. Any thoughts ?



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Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Sam Bass
If the new Common Page Dataset is allocated on the same volume, can you delete 
the old one after you IPL with the new one?  
I think I recall that MVS protects all PAGE datasets if there one active on 
that volume.

From the IDCAMS book

Restriction:  If you want to delete an inactive pagespace, no other 
   pagespace can be active on that volume. If a pagespace is 
active, 
   the delete will be unsuccessful and you will receive an error 
message.


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Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Dean Montevago
You'd have to run a batch job from another system. 

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If the new Common Page Dataset is allocated on the same volume, can you
delete the old one after you IPL with the new one?  
I think I recall that MVS protects all PAGE datasets if there one active
on that volume.

From the IDCAMS book

Restriction:  If you want to delete an inactive pagespace, no other 
   pagespace can be active on that volume. If a pagespace is
active, 
   the delete will be unsuccessful and you will receive an
error message.


Sam Bass
McLane Company
Temple, TX  76503
254-771-7212

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RES: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
I think this restriction is gone.


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You'd have to run a batch job from another system. 

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Subject: Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset


If the new Common Page Dataset is allocated on the same volume, can you
delete the old one after you IPL with the new one?  
I think I recall that MVS protects all PAGE datasets if there one active
on that volume.

From the IDCAMS book

Restriction:  If you want to delete an inactive pagespace, no other 
   pagespace can be active on that volume. If a pagespace is
active, 
   the delete will be unsuccessful and you will receive an
error message.


Sam Bass
McLane Company
Temple, TX  76503
254-771-7212

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Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Sam Bass
This quote was from the IDCAMS z/OS 1.4 DFDSS book.
I do not see the restriction in the z/OS 1.7 DFDSS book.

Sam Bass
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I think this restriction is gone.


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Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset

2006-11-29 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 11:51 -0600, Sam Bass wrote:

 This quote was from the IDCAMS z/OS 1.4 DFDSS book.
 I do not see the restriction in the z/OS 1.7 DFDSS book.

Shouldn't have been in the 1.4 manual(s) either. Things changed
significantly in 1.3

Shane ...

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