Re: FTP VB dataset
Mullen, Patrick wrote: I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? Try this: userid password LOCSITE RDW SITERDW LOCSITE RECFM=VB SITERECFM=VB LOCSITE LRECL=? SITELRECL=? MODE B EBCDIC Then do either GET or PUT. Then it is guaranteed both sides know what to expect. HTH! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FTP VB dataset
I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mullen, Patrick Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FTP VB dataset I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
Thanks, found it in the archives. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP VB dataset -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mullen, Patrick Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FTP VB dataset I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
I know it's BF to reply to one's own post, but I guess I don't know the difference. Is there a difference between: BIN MODE B The OP said BIN wasn't working. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:37:43 To:IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-main@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FTP VB dataset discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B Maybe I read this wrong; didn't the OP say he was doing that and it didn't work? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
Since both are IBM mainframes try this, I've had good luck with it. Menu Utilities Compilers Help ¢¢¢ BROWSETECGRM.JCL.PDS(FTPEXAMP) - 01.99 Line 0001 Col 001 080 Command === Scroll === CSR //TECGRMF JOB 5740TC,G.MANSELL,MSGCLASS=O,PRTY=9,CLASS=3, //NOTIFY=SYSUID TYPRUN=SCAN //STEP01 EXEC PGM=FTP, // PARM='198.176.221.9 (EXIT TIMEOUT 20' //NETRCDD DUMMY //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUTDD * TECGRM BLOCK EBCDIC GET 'TES.CONNECT.DIRECT' 'TES.CONNECT.DIRECT.COPY' QUIT /* //STEP02 EXEC PGM=FTP,COND=(0,NE,STEP01), // PARM='198.176.221.9 (EXIT TIMEOUT 20' //NETRCDD DUMMY //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUTDD * TECGRM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mullen, Patrick Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP VB dataset Thanks, found it in the archives. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP VB dataset -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mullen, Patrick Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FTP VB dataset I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender
Re: FTP VB dataset
discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B Maybe I read this wrong; didn't the OP say he was doing that and it didn't work? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP VB dataset discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B Maybe I read this wrong; didn't the OP say he was doing that and it didn't work? - NO. The bin ftp command and the mode b command are different. mode b implies bin, but does more. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:19:53 -0500, Mullen, Patrick wrote: I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? Try quote site recfm=vb and see if it preserves it. You might also have to add LRECL and BLKSIZE. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Dave Kopischke wrote: Try quote site recfm=vb and see if it preserves it. You might also have to add LRECL and BLKSIZE. That should not be necessary when transferring between z/OS images. The z/OS ftp client sends a site command with the source dataset's attributes to the server, unless that has been turned off. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: An EIN stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
If you are using a z/OS FTP client to PUT a file onto a z/OS FTP server: Just use: TYPE E MODE B PUT local_name [remote_name if different] You will notice when you run the PUT command that the z/OS FTP client will automatically generate a SITE command telling the remote FTP server what DCB characteristics this file needs. For example: EZA1460I Command: type e EZA1701I TYPE E 200 Representation type is Ebcdic NonPrint EZA1460I Command: mode b EZA1701I MODE B 200 Data transfer mode is Block EZA1460I Command: put local_name remote_name EZA1701I SITE VARrecfm LRECL=27994 RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=27998 200 SITE command was accepted EZA1701I PORT 192,168,nn,nnn,14,100 200 Port request OK. EZA1701I STOR remote_name 125 Storing data set remote_name 250 Transfer completed successfully. EZA1617I 211 bytes transferred in 0.010 seconds. Transfer rate 21.10 Kbytes/sec. EZA1460I Command: If you are using a z/OS FTP client to GET a file from a z/OS FTP server: Use: TYPE E MODE B LOCSITE all dcb information such as LRECL=nnn RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=27998 GET remote name [local_name if different] The GET command does not generate an automatic LOCSITE command, so you have to specify the correct DCB characteristics before issuing the GET command, using LOCSITE. Here's an example: EZA1460I Command: mode b EZA1701I MODE B 200 Data transfer mode is Block EZA1460I Command: type e EZA1701I TYPE E 200 Representation type is Ebcdic NonPrint EZA1460I Command: locsite lrecl=27994 blksize=27998 recfm=vb EZA1460I Command: get remote_name local_name EZA1701I PORT 192,168,nn,nnn,13,127 200 Port request OK. EZA1701I RETR remote_name 125 Sending data set remote_name 250 Transfer completed successfully. EZA1617I 211 bytes transferred in 0.060 seconds. Transfer rate 3.52 Kbytes/sec. Bits and pieces of this are scattered throughout the z/OS IP User's Guide. From the Guide: Table 12. Recommended methods for data transfer Transfer between host types TYPE MODE EBCDIC and EBCDIC -- binary data EBCDIC Block and: Sometimes the client requires DCB information before it opens a data set. Among the situations where this is true are: o Reading and writing variable-length records while preserving the RDW Brian On Fri, 9 May 2008 17:07:24 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:19:53 -0500, Mullen, Patrick wrote: I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed data comes out translated into different hex values. Adding a 'bin' command resolves the translation, but now record structure is lost. Adding a 'quote site rdw' doesn't make any difference, but maybe that syntax is incorrect. Any ideas? Try quote site recfm=vb and see if it preserves it. You might also have to add LRECL and BLKSIZE. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
On Fri, 9 May 2008 17:58:09 -0500, John McKown wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008, Dave Kopischke wrote: Try quote site recfm=vb and see if it preserves it. You might also have to add LRECL and BLKSIZE. That should not be necessary when transferring between z/OS images. The z/OS ftp client sends a site command with the source dataset's attributes to the server, unless that has been turned off. Very true. But something was amiss with that conversation. This was intended as one way to get beyond it. I always thought the z/OS ftp client would be able to automatically sense another z/OS client and act accordingly. Apparently not in this case. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP VB dataset
On Fri, 9 May 2008 16:05:22 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:38 PM discussed many time. Use the ftp command: MODE B Maybe I read this wrong; didn't the OP say he was doing that and it didn't work? No. IIRC, the OP said he did something like QUOTE SITE MODE B, which puts the server but not the client in that mode; trouble is almost certain. BTW, IIRC, the OP said his data set was DSORG=VB. I was unaware that DSORG was supported. - NO. The bin ftp command and the mode b command are different. mode b implies bin, but does more. No. BIN is TYPE I; EBCDIC is TYPE E; BLOCK is MODE B. the combination: EBCDIC (or TYPE E) and BLOCK (or MODE B) ... are compatible, and recommended. (Did I get that right?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
