Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:07:24 +, Linda Mooney wrote: >Hi Neal, > > > >If you are going to make the big hop, you might consider installing/using the driving system available on ShopzSeries. I have not used it myself, but I think that there are others here who could advise on that. > > > >I found SMP/e 3.5 to be a good and fairly easy CBPDO install. You need to be above 3.1 to run the receive order command anyway. That way you can pull the order directly from the IBM site. Also, I am not sure if the FIXCAT toleration PTF is available for 3.1. FIXCAT, along with the other SMP/e improvements in 3.5, IMHO, make it very much worth the install time. You will also need a minimum of Java 1.4, z/OS 1.4 came with Java 1.3. You can install the web download Java 1.4. That's what I did, and I left the Java 1.3 as my default since we don't have anything except SMP/e and the HTTP server server running. I point to the Java 1.4 in my DDDEFs. Or, if you have crypto, you would be able to use that for your SMP/e installs. > > > >My management didn't want to pay for a conference either. I wrote a business case, outlining the assignments they wanted me to complete in the next year, identifying the skills required for those assignments. I mapped that to the Share sessions I planned to attend. I got the okay to go. The business case gave my manager a justification that he could use at budget time to account for how he spent his budget. I did a trip report, and put the new knowledge to work in visible ways. On the Share website, www.share.org  there are some additional suggestions on how to make your case. There are also some discounts available. I have also paid my own way a couple of times when there was no budget available. It was worth it.  There are quite a few of us here on this list who attend and volunteer at Share. If you can't get them to send you, maybe it would work on your tuition reimbursement plan, if your company has one. If you get there, don't be shy! > > > >Linda Mooney > Thanks Linda, I have no problem doing the big hop. We are a simple single cpu system. My employer cancelled our $700 Cheryl Watson newsletter that saved our bacon when we were CPU constrained. I know that a couple of thousand dollars for Share is absolutely out of the question. Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
Hi Neal, If you are going to make the big hop, you might consider installing/using the driving system available on ShopzSeries. I have not used it myself, but I think that there are others here who could advise on that. I found SMP/e 3.5 to be a good and fairly easy CBPDO install. You need to be above 3.1 to run the receive order command anyway. That way you can pull the order directly from the IBM site. Also, I am not sure if the FIXCAT toleration PTF is available for 3.1. FIXCAT, along with the other SMP/e improvements in 3.5, IMHO, make it very much worth the install time. You will also need a minimum of Java 1.4, z/OS 1.4 came with Java 1.3. You can install the web download Java 1.4. That's what I did, and I left the Java 1.3 as my default since we don't have anything except SMP/e and the HTTP server server running. I point to the Java 1.4 in my DDDEFs. Or, if you have crypto, you would be able to use that for your SMP/e installs. My management didn't want to pay for a conference either. I wrote a business case, outlining the assignments they wanted me to complete in the next year, identifying the skills required for those assignments. I mapped that to the Share sessions I planned to attend. I got the okay to go. The business case gave my manager a justification that he could use at budget time to account for how he spent his budget. I did a trip report, and put the new knowledge to work in visible ways. On the Share website, www.share.org there are some additional suggestions on how to make your case. There are also some discounts available. I have also paid my own way a couple of times when there was no budget available. It was worth it. There are quite a few of us here on this list who attend and volunteer at Share. If you can't get them to send you, maybe it would work on your tuition reimbursement plan, if your company has one. If you get there, don't be shy! Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: "Neal Eckhardt" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:21:48 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: HELP! ordering maintenance. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:20:49 +, Linda Mooney wrote: >Hi Neal, > > > >z/OS 1.4 to 1.10 is not a supported hop. I have seen a number of posts on this list on 1.4 to 1.9, but not so much on 1.4 to 1.10. > Yea, what else is new. My last hop was OS/390 2.9 to z/OS 1.4, that was a hop of 5 releases. Now I am jumping 6 releases. I'm not looking forward to the next one at 7 releases :( > > >What release of SMPe are you running?  SMPe 3.5 (the current release) runs just fine with 1.4, I put it on my 1.4 system last winter using CBPDO. It can co-exist with another level , but once you run the UPGRADE command, that CSI will be committed to 3.5 > 31.26, whatever that works out to. It is whatever was shipped with z/OS 1.4. > > >Running the consolodated inventory report just against your product CSI is not always enough. You might miss requisite service for the OS or other products that way. Creating the consolodated inventory report is pretty easy. I have done a number of them. Contact me off list if you want help with that. > If I get the right level of SMP, I think I can handle it, but I'll keep it in mind. > > >I haighly recommend Share www.share.org in Denver later this month, you will find a number of presentations on SMP/e, installs and many other subjects. If you are new to z/OS or new to this functional area, check out zNextGen at www.znextgen.org or you can link to them through the Share pages. > > Oh how I wish I could go. I never worked for a company that would send anybody to Share (or even belonged to Share). My goal was to make it there before I die, I don't think I am going to make it. Thanks, Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
That may be the path of least resistence. Now I have to dig up the link to the download page again. Thanks, Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:20:49 +, Linda Mooney wrote: >Hi Neal, > > > >z/OS 1.4 to 1.10 is not a supported hop. I have seen a number of posts on this list on 1.4 to 1.9, but not so much on 1.4 to 1.10. > Yea, what else is new. My last hop was OS/390 2.9 to z/OS 1.4, that was a hop of 5 releases. Now I am jumping 6 releases. I'm not looking forward to the next one at 7 releases :( > > >What release of SMPe are you running?  SMPe 3.5 (the current release) runs just fine with 1.4, I put it on my 1.4 system last winter using CBPDO. It can co-exist with another level , but once you run the UPGRADE command, that CSI will be committed to 3.5 > 31.26, whatever that works out to. It is whatever was shipped with z/OS 1.4. > > >Running the consolodated inventory report just against your product CSI is not always enough. You might miss requisite service for the OS or other products that way. Creating the consolodated inventory report is pretty easy. I have done a number of them. Contact me off list if you want help with that. > If I get the right level of SMP, I think I can handle it, but I'll keep it in mind. > > >I haighly recommend Share www.share.org in Denver later this month, you will find a number of presentations on SMP/e, installs and many other subjects. If you are new to z/OS or new to this functional area, check out zNextGen at www.znextgen.org or you can link to them through the Share pages. > > Oh how I wish I could go. I never worked for a company that would send anybody to Share (or even belonged to Share). My goal was to make it there before I die, I don't think I am going to make it. Thanks, Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush > > [ snip ] > > And as already mentioned, SMP/E V3.5 (the latest release) will run on > z/OS 1.4 and installing it should be relatively quick and painless if > you choose that direction. Indeed. And once installed, sign on to Shopz and request a "client certificate", install the certificate into your ESM or other certificate store using the instructions provided, set up a RECEIVE ORDER job, and "Bob's your uncle". -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
... I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We are running z/OS 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any way to get this maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a newer SMP/e to do this? ShopzSeries does allow you to order an RSU with out submitting an "installed software report." After you select RSU, choose for "all licensed products." Of course this will likely get you a very large PTF order, but it does not require the installed software report. And as already mentioned, SMP/E V3.5 (the latest release) will run on z/OS 1.4 and installing it should be relatively quick and painless if you choose that direction. Kurt Quackenbush IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
Hi Neal, z/OS 1.4 to 1.10 is not a supported hop. I have seen a number of posts on this list on 1.4 to 1.9, but not so much on 1.4 to 1.10. What release of SMPe are you running? SMPe 3.5 (the current release) runs just fine with 1.4, I put it on my 1.4 system last winter using CBPDO. It can co-exist with another level , but once you run the UPGRADE command, that CSI will be committed to 3.5 Running the consolodated inventory report just against your product CSI is not always enough. You might miss requisite service for the OS or other products that way. Creating the consolodated inventory report is pretty easy. I have done a number of them. Contact me off list if you want help with that. I haighly recommend Share www.share.org in Denver later this month, you will find a number of presentations on SMP/e, installs and many other subjects. If you are new to z/OS or new to this functional area, check out zNextGen at www.znextgen.org or you can link to them through the Share pages. Cheers, Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: "Neal Eckhardt" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 1:09:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: HELP! ordering maintenance. To make a long story short, I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We are running z/OS 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any way to get this maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a newer SMP/e to do this? I need to go to CICS 2.3 before I do the z/OS 1.10 upgrade. Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
I thought that there was an option In shopZseries to not use the installation report. You can just somehow find what you are looking for and order from there, if you can find anything on that befuddled system. IBMLINK SRD is a lot better. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HELP! ordering maintenance. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Eckhardt > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: HELP! ordering maintenance. > > To make a long story short, I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. > ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We > are running z/OS > 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any > way to get this > maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a > newer SMP/e to > do this? > > I need to go to CICS 2.3 before I do the z/OS 1.10 upgrade. > > Neal Or, if you have friends at another location, send them a copy of your CICS CSI. Have them run the SMP/E GIMXSID program to create the output file. Then have them send you that output file so you can upload it to IBM. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Eckhardt > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: HELP! ordering maintenance. > > To make a long story short, I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. > ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We > are running z/OS > 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any > way to get this > maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a > newer SMP/e to > do this? > > I need to go to CICS 2.3 before I do the z/OS 1.10 upgrade. > > Neal Or, if you have friends at another location, send them a copy of your CICS CSI. Have them run the SMP/E GIMXSID program to create the output file. Then have them send you that output file so you can upload it to IBM. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
On IBMLINK: I go to SRD - then to Order z/OS - then to ESO Then just fill it out. It orders maintenance for all products that we have a license for. Thanks. John Eatherly -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
SMP/E is an easy CBPDO and z/OS release agnostic. No reason not to keep it fully up to date. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Neal Eckhardt > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: HELP! ordering maintenance. > > To make a long story short, I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. > ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We are running > z/OS > 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any way to > get this > maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a newer SMP/e > to > do this? > > I need to go to CICS 2.3 before I do the z/OS 1.10 upgrade. > > Neal > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HELP! ordering maintenance.
Why don't you just go to IBMLINK SRD and order from there. Although you will have to know the ptf numbers you want to order - you can get those from the Psp buckets or check on IBMLINK which ptfs you need for 2.3. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Eckhardt Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HELP! ordering maintenance. To make a long story short, I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We are running z/OS 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any way to get this maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a newer SMP/e to do this? I need to go to CICS 2.3 before I do the z/OS 1.10 upgrade. Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HELP! ordering maintenance.
To make a long story short, I need to order maintenance for CICS 2.3. ShopZseries wants an installation report to order a RSU. We are running z/OS 1.4 so the SMP module required is not available. Is there any way to get this maintenance ordered or do I have to download and install a newer SMP/e to do this? I need to go to CICS 2.3 before I do the z/OS 1.10 upgrade. Neal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
