Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-06 Thread Joel C. Ewing
In an SMS shop, whether or not there is an DFHSM backup of any dataset 
is totally dependent on whether the assigned MGMTCLAS class calls for 
auto-backup.  In many applications where the backups of many different 
datasets are required to be synchronized in some fashion, we have found 
DFHSM asynchronous auto-backup to be almost useless, so we tend to have 
more datasets defined without DFHSM auto-backup than with.


"Amen" to necessity of duplexing with all DFHSM tapes.  All it takes is 
one instance like this with the loss of thousands of datasets to prove 
to management that the cost of duplexing is justified, and there is no 
way other than true duplexing to protect against this kind of loss - 
TAPECOPY after the fact doesn't cover all failures, so it is also 
important that customization requires a failure writing a duplex volume 
to mark the primary tape full rather than continuing with no active 
alternate copy.


Even with 3490 carts, the potential loss of hundreds of datasets from a 
single damaged cartridge could be serious, but the 30-fold+ increased 
capacity of later technology tapes makes each single tape so important 
that duplexing of both ML2 and Backup tapes should be mandatory!

  JC Ewing

Ulrich Krueger wrote:

For each dataset on ML2 tape, there is supposed to be a copy on DFHSM backup
tape. You'll have to identify each "lost" dataset and recover them from
DFHSM backup tape, one at a time.

And if you haven't turned on duplexing for ML2 tapes yet and begun to create
copies of all your ML2 tapes ... the next disaster is just waiting to
happen. Murphy's watching ...


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Subject: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

Hell Guys ,

We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
that its not being identified  by the drives .

IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
 004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
 UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified by
system.

Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
appreciate your input .


Thanks in Advance ,

Rohit
IBM
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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread John Kelly
I'm the belt and suspenders kind of guy, so I wouldn't be trying to write 
a label on my only copy of the ML2 tape. The HSM folks know a lot more 
that I but I'd try gener'ing the ML2 tape, as blp, to another tape and if 
that worked do it again and label the output tape H00033. I've had problem 
with ATL tapes and error recover in that you can't bypass an error like 
you can if the drive wasn't in an ATL.


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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread Neal Scheffler
Message EDG4031I indicates you may not have the correct authorization to 
write the tape label.


Neal Scheffler

ROHIT wrote:

Thanks everyone for the input , this is what I tried from HSM Admin Guide :


//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD DUMMY,LRECL=16384,BLKSIZE=16384,RECFM=F
//SYSUT2   DD DSN=DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET,
// DISP=(NEW,KEEP),DCB=*.SYSUT1,UNIT=TAPE3590,
// VOL=SER=H00033 <<< -- Damaged Tape

//SYSIN DD DUMMY
/*

But again it somehow ending with this error  :

*IEF233A M 6500,H00033,,LSP0RBH1,STEP1,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

 IOS000I 6500,45,IOE,02,0600,,**,,LSP0RBH1  698

  004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312

  UNSUPPORTED FORMAT

 IEC512I LBL ERR 6500,
,NL,H00033,SL,LSP0RBH1,STEP1,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATAS
 EDG4031I VOLUME NL REJECTED. THE CREATION OF STANDARD LABELS IS NOT
PERMITTED
 EDG4006E VOLUME NL ON 6500 REJECTED FOR USE BY LSP0RBH1, STEP1, OPEN
REQUEST FAILED BY DFSMSrmm  IEC145I
413-08,IFG0194K,LSP0RBH1,STEP1,SYSUT2,6500,,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  704

 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=413  REASON CODE=0008

  TIME=15.34.23  SEQ=05369  CPU=  ASID=0206

  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DB58FE  ILC 2  INTC 0D

NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND

NAME=UNKNOWN

DATA AT PSW  00DB58F8 - 41003B62  0A0D41F0  38A656F0

GR 0: 00DB5BC4   1: A4413000

   2: 8CC0   3: 00DB5062

   4: 009D0410   5: 009D07A4

   6: 009D074C   7: 009D07A4

   8: 009D076C   9: 009D1960

   A: 009D1969   B: 00DB7B04

   C: 80DB7BE4   D: 009D06D0

   E: 80DB519A   F: 0008

  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP

 IEF450I LSP0RBH1 STEP1 - ABEND=S413 U REASON=0008  706



Any suggestions ?

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Neal Scheffler  wrote:

  

The procedure to write a new label on an ML2 volume is covered in the
DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide under chapter 20 Data Recovery
Scenarios.

Neal Scheffler

ROHIT wrote:



 Hell Guys ,

We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
that its not being identified  by the drives .

IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
 004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
 UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified
by
system.

Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
appreciate your input .


Thanks in Advance ,

Rohit
IBM

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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread Jim Chappell
Is it safe to assume ;) that device 6500 is a 3590?

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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread ROHIT
Thanks everyone for the input , this is what I tried from HSM Admin Guide :


//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD DUMMY,LRECL=16384,BLKSIZE=16384,RECFM=F
//SYSUT2   DD DSN=DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET,
// DISP=(NEW,KEEP),DCB=*.SYSUT1,UNIT=TAPE3590,
// VOL=SER=H00033 <<< -- Damaged Tape

//SYSIN DD DUMMY
/*

But again it somehow ending with this error  :

*IEF233A M 6500,H00033,,LSP0RBH1,STEP1,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

 IOS000I 6500,45,IOE,02,0600,,**,,LSP0RBH1  698

  004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312

  UNSUPPORTED FORMAT

 IEC512I LBL ERR 6500,
,NL,H00033,SL,LSP0RBH1,STEP1,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATAS
 EDG4031I VOLUME NL REJECTED. THE CREATION OF STANDARD LABELS IS NOT
PERMITTED
 EDG4006E VOLUME NL ON 6500 REJECTED FOR USE BY LSP0RBH1, STEP1, OPEN
REQUEST FAILED BY DFSMSrmm  IEC145I
413-08,IFG0194K,LSP0RBH1,STEP1,SYSUT2,6500,,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  704

 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=413  REASON CODE=0008

  TIME=15.34.23  SEQ=05369  CPU=  ASID=0206

  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DB58FE  ILC 2  INTC 0D

NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND

NAME=UNKNOWN

DATA AT PSW  00DB58F8 - 41003B62  0A0D41F0  38A656F0

GR 0: 00DB5BC4   1: A4413000

   2: 8CC0   3: 00DB5062

   4: 009D0410   5: 009D07A4

   6: 009D074C   7: 009D07A4

   8: 009D076C   9: 009D1960

   A: 009D1969   B: 00DB7B04

   C: 80DB7BE4   D: 009D06D0

   E: 80DB519A   F: 0008

  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP

 IEF450I LSP0RBH1 STEP1 - ABEND=S413 U REASON=0008  706



Any suggestions ?

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Neal Scheffler  wrote:

> The procedure to write a new label on an ML2 volume is covered in the
> DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide under chapter 20 Data Recovery
> Scenarios.
>
> Neal Scheffler
>
> ROHIT wrote:
>
>>  Hell Guys ,
>>
>> We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
>> error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
>> that its not being identified  by the drives .
>>
>> IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
>>  004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
>>  UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
>> IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
>> IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
>> IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
>>
>> Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified
>> by
>> system.
>>
>> Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
>> appreciate your input .
>>
>>
>> Thanks in Advance ,
>>
>> Rohit
>> IBM
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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread Stocker, Herman
Rohit,

I know you must have tried something like BLP or NL,2 to get by the label
then may be an IEBGENER..

Regards, 
Herman Stocker 

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Subject: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy


Hell Guys ,

We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
that its not being identified  by the drives .

IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
 004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified by
system.

Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
appreciate your input .


Thanks in Advance ,

Rohit
IBM

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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread Ulrich Krueger
For each dataset on ML2 tape, there is supposed to be a copy on DFHSM backup
tape. You'll have to identify each "lost" dataset and recover them from
DFHSM backup tape, one at a time.

And if you haven't turned on duplexing for ML2 tapes yet and begun to create
copies of all your ML2 tapes ... the next disaster is just waiting to
happen. Murphy's watching ...


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Subject: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

Hell Guys ,

We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
that its not being identified  by the drives .

IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
 004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
 UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified by
system.

Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
appreciate your input .


Thanks in Advance ,

Rohit
IBM

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Re: HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread Neal Scheffler
The procedure to write a new label on an ML2 volume is covered in the 
DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide under chapter 20 Data Recovery 
Scenarios.


Neal Scheffler

ROHIT wrote:

Hell Guys ,

We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
that its not being identified  by the drives .

IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
 004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
 UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified by
system.

Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
appreciate your input .


Thanks in Advance ,

Rohit
IBM

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HSM ML2 without Label and NO duplex Copy

2009-08-04 Thread ROHIT
Hell Guys ,

We unfortunatley ended up having a 3590  ML2 tape which is giving NO LABEL
error and 6000 datasets sitting on it are unreadable, tape ops confirmed
that its not being identified  by the drives .

IOS000I 6503,B3,IOE,02,0600,,**,,DFHSM  468
 004914D050205451 0202FF143037 0190 41042300BEFD1312
 UNSUPPORTED FORMAT
IEC512I I/O ERR 6503,  ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET
IEC502E R 6503,, ,NL,DFHSM,DFHSM
IEC501A M 6503,H00033,SL,,DFHSM,DFHSM,DFHSM.HMIGTAPE.DATASET

Tried recycling but again not helping because its not getting identified by
system.

Can any one advise how to define a new label or any other resoultion ,
appreciate your input .


Thanks in Advance ,

Rohit
IBM

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