Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-04 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:13:26 +0200, Arye Shemer ary...@matrix.co.il wrote:
Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.
Is there is a way to overcome this limit?
The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.

When we bought jaguars we realised the HSM STACK parameter could not exceed
99 and of course we could not fill our cartridge 
we made a  request but i do not know what happened to it 
In between we moved from mod3 to bigger models ( mod9 and 27) and bypassed
the problem at the same time . 
I do not think the 99 limit was changed.
Bruno Sugliani 
zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
http://zxnetconsult.free.fr

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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-04 Thread R.S.

Arye Shemer wrote:

We suggested to the customer to switch to larger volumes, but he said:

They are small software developing shop and need small volumes for the
developers' teams.


I agree the limit of 99 could be inconvenient. However, the limit exist 
and you have a choice: increase volume size or live with partially-full 
cartridges.


BTW: I strongly believe they DON'T need small volumes. Probably they 
need SMS and some naming convention. Separation at volume level is not 
needed.

My €0.02
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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I don't remember if this was answered or not, but is there really a 99 
volume limit in DFHSM?  I would think that would be something fairly easy 
for the HSM people to change, atlhough I may be wrong about that.


This whole thread reminds me of one of my first big projects as a sysprog 
when I worked for Milwaukee County.  I wrote a system like HSM for backing 
up the changed and new datasets on our TSO packs.  Everything back then was 
backed up to tape (good old 3420 round reels - state of the art at the 
time).  I wrote everything out to tape using IEBGENER for one set of tapes, 
and IEBCOPY for another set of tapes.  I think back then, the LABEL= 
parameter had a limit of 99, so we put a maximum of 99 files on each tape. 
Ah for the good old days when I wrote a lot of assembler!


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434


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We suggested to the customer to switch to larger volumes, but he said:

They are small software developing shop and need small volumes for the
developers' teams.

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Use bigger volumes?


Arye Shemer ary...@matrix.co.il 3/3/2009 12:13 AM 

   Hello,



Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.



Is there is a way to overcome this limit?
The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.
Thanks,

Arye Shemer.


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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I'm sorry - this was answered quite definitively a few posts after the one 
that I responded to.  I violated my rule of reading the rest of the posts on 
a topic before responding, and especially before asking questions!


Eric

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434


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From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com



I don't remember if this was answered or not, but is there really a 99 
volume limit in DFHSM?  I would think that would be something fairly easy 
for the HSM people to change, atlhough I may be wrong about that.





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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-03 Thread Staller, Allan
Not at this time

snip
Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.

 

Is there is a way to overcome this limit?
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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-03 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Are you referring to data set backups or full volume dumps?

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Hello,

Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.

Is there is a way to overcome this limit?

The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.

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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-03 Thread Scott Rowe
Use bigger volumes?

 Arye Shemer ary...@matrix.co.il 3/3/2009 12:13 AM 
Hello,



Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.



Is there is a way to overcome this limit?



The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.




Thanks,



Arye Shemer.


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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-03 Thread Brian Westerman
I agree, if you use larger volumes, you won't find the 99 volume count an issue.

Brian

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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-03 Thread Arye Shemer
Question: Are you referring to data set backups or full volume dumps?
Question

 

Answer: The customer is doing full volume dumps

 

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Are you referring to data set backups or full volume dumps?

 

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Subject: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

 

Hello,

 

Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99

disk volume backups on one cartridge.

 

Is there is a way to overcome this limit?

 

The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.

 

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Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-03 Thread Arye Shemer
We suggested to the customer to switch to larger volumes, but he said:

They are small software developing shop and need small volumes for the
developers' teams.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Scott Rowe
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:20 PM
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Subject: Re: HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

Use bigger volumes?

 Arye Shemer ary...@matrix.co.il 3/3/2009 12:13 AM 
Hello,



Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.



Is there is a way to overcome this limit?



The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.




Thanks,



Arye Shemer.


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HSM filing up 3592 cartridges

2009-03-02 Thread Arye Shemer
Hello,

 

Customer is using HSM and claims that HSM won't let him put more then 99
disk volume backups on one cartridge.

 

Is there is a way to overcome this limit?

 

The customer would like to utilize his 3592 cartridges more efficiently.


 

Thanks,

 

Arye Shemer.


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