Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Gil Peleg
Hi Barbara,

It is normal. I remember it being like that since CMDS was available...
After the first SLIP the task in *MASTER* does not end, but stays there in a
WAIT for more SLIP commands.

Gil.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed
 (under 1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

 CMDS S,ID=1
 MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1
 COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1
 SET SLIP=00
 CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C
 MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0

 Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this
 command executed is still around?

 This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order
 of parmlibs:
 SYS1.sysname..PARMLIB   (system-specific stuff)
 SYS1.PARMLIB (sysplex-specific stuff)
 SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB (IBM defaults)
 SYS1.SHASPARM(jes2)

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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
Gil,

now that you mention it, I checked the (long) syscmds reference. It even says 
so in the book (doh:-( ).

Note:  Some commands remain active indefinitely, so the system will display 
them whenever CMDS is issued. For example, if any SLIP commands 
have been issued and SLIP traps are in effect, one SLIP command will be 
executing until all traps are deleted. This is also true for many SET 
commands, such as SET SLIP and SET MPF.

Currently one collegue has a logon command attached in master, too, even though 
he is logged in. But only on this one system.

Best regards, Barbara
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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:20:50 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:51:11 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed
(under 1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

CMDS S,ID=1
MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1
COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1
SET SLIP=00
CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C
MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0

Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this
command executed is still around?

This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order
of parmlibs:

snip


I recall seeing it in the past but I don't see it now on any systems in one
of my sysplexes.  My IEACMD00 is the default distributed in hlq.IBM.PARMLIB.

COM='CHNGDUMP SET,SDUMP=(LSQA,TRT,XESDATA),ADD'
COM='SET SLIP=00'
COM='SET DAE=00'
COM='START LLA,SUB=MSTR'
COM='START BLSJPRMI,SUB=MSTR'
COM='START IFGEDI,SUB=MSTR'

However, in another sysplex where IEACMD00 is coming from a local
parmlib and SET SLIP=00 is the first command, I do see it there.

Oh... this was mostly on 1.8 systems but there is still one 1.6 system
floating around and 1.9 test sysplex systems.  All seemed to behave
the same way I described above.


Ignore what I wrote above.  It's there, the ID just isn't 1.  

Mark
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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:51:11 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed
(under 1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

CMDS S,ID=1
MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1
COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1
SET SLIP=00
CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C
MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0

Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this
command executed is still around?

This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order
of parmlibs:
SYS1.sysname..PARMLIB   (system-specific stuff)
SYS1.PARMLIB (sysplex-specific stuff)
SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB (IBM defaults)
SYS1.SHASPARM(jes2)



I recall seeing it in the past but I don't see it now on any systems in one
of my sysplexes.  My IEACMD00 is the default distributed in hlq.IBM.PARMLIB.

COM='CHNGDUMP SET,SDUMP=(LSQA,TRT,XESDATA),ADD'
COM='SET SLIP=00'  
COM='SET DAE=00'   
COM='START LLA,SUB=MSTR'   
COM='START BLSJPRMI,SUB=MSTR'  
COM='START IFGEDI,SUB=MSTR'

However, in another sysplex where IEACMD00 is coming from a local
parmlib and SET SLIP=00 is the first command, I do see it there.

Oh... this was mostly on 1.8 systems but there is still one 1.6 system
floating around and 1.9 test sysplex systems.  All seemed to behave
the same way I described above.   

Mark
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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Gil Peleg
Just found the APAR I was quoting earlier... APAR II13201.
It doesn't explain much, but it does acknowledge what CMDS shows.

Gil.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Ignore what I wrote above.  It's there, the ID just isn't 1.

 Mark
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Hanging command

2008-03-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed (under 
1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

CMDS S,ID=1 
MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1 
COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1 
SET SLIP=00 
CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C 
MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0  

Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this command 
executed is still around?

This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order of 
parmlibs:
SYS1.sysname..PARMLIB   (system-specific stuff)
SYS1.PARMLIB (sysplex-specific stuff)
SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB (IBM defaults)
SYS1.SHASPARM(jes2)

regards, Barbara Nitz
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