Re: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?

2011-06-21 Thread R.S.
I submitted it as RCF (Reader's Comment Form) to IBM. The manual say 
*NOTHING* what to do in case you don't have those products.


IMHO it's one of the most irritating things in the ServerPac.

Oh, btw - IBM didn't reacted to the RCF in any way.
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W dniu 2011-06-20 23:52, Skip Robinson pisze:

I'm most of the way through a ServerPac install and stumbling on a job
that wants to set CALLLIBS for products installed in other CSIs--and
managed by other people--or products that we don't even own. These
libraries are choking points:

CICS.SDFHLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
DSN.SDSNLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
IMS.SDFSRESL -- no DDDEF because we don't own IMS at all

I could jury-rig the first two by pointing the DDDEF to some
current-version-du-jour library, but IMS is not even a stretch. System
Automation is particularly fond of releasing PTFs that require CALLLIBS.
How do other people get through this?



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Re: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?

2011-06-21 Thread Tidy, David (D)
Hi,

I deleted the System Automation FMID for the IMS stuff. Where we do have
the product, I just point to the appropriate place (ready to forget when
we are running two levels of CICS for instance).

Best regards,
David Tidy  Tel:(31)115-67-1745
IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf  Fax:(31)115-67-1762 
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Skip Robinson
Sent: 20 June 2011 23:52
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Subject: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?

I'm most of the way through a ServerPac install and stumbling on a job 
that wants to set CALLLIBS for products installed in other CSIs--and 
managed by other people--or products that we don't even own. These 
libraries are choking points:

CICS.SDFHLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
DSN.SDSNLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
IMS.SDFSRESL -- no DDDEF because we don't own IMS at all

I could jury-rig the first two by pointing the DDDEF to some 
current-version-du-jour library, but IMS is not even a stretch. System 
Automation is particularly fond of releasing PTFs that require CALLLIBS.

How do other people get through this? 


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SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?

2011-06-20 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm most of the way through a ServerPac install and stumbling on a job 
that wants to set CALLLIBS for products installed in other CSIs--and 
managed by other people--or products that we don't even own. These 
libraries are choking points:

CICS.SDFHLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
DSN.SDSNLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
IMS.SDFSRESL -- no DDDEF because we don't own IMS at all

I could jury-rig the first two by pointing the DDDEF to some 
current-version-du-jour library, but IMS is not even a stretch. System 
Automation is particularly fond of releasing PTFs that require CALLLIBS. 
How do other people get through this? 


.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

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Re: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?

2011-06-20 Thread Kathleen Mclaughlin
We encounter the same issue with our ServerPac installs because we include ASF 
but not DB2 or CICS.  For the DB2 and CICS CALLLIBS ASF needs, I point those 
DDDEFs to the “current-version-du-jour” and then re-verify with their support 
programmer that they haven’t changed/updated the datasets before applying any 
maintenance for ASF.  With the remaining CALLLIBS ASF needs for products we 
don’t own, I’ll point those CALLLIBS to the ASF “default” stub file.

Good luck,

Kathleen

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Subject: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?

I'm most of the way through a ServerPac install and stumbling on a job 
that wants to set CALLLIBS for products installed in other CSIs--and 
managed by other people--or products that we don't even own. These 
libraries are choking points:

CICS.SDFHLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
DSN.SDSNLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere
IMS.SDFSRESL -- no DDDEF because we don't own IMS at all

I could jury-rig the first two by pointing the DDDEF to some 
current-version-du-jour library, but IMS is not even a stretch. System 
Automation is particularly fond of releasing PTFs that require CALLLIBS. 
How do other people get through this? 


.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

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