How to transfer PDSE libraries?
We are on z/OS 1.7. We have a problem with automated copying PDSE libraries between two systems. We had been using BDT until we needed to copy PDSE datasets. For some reasons we cannot use shared DASDs and IEBCOPY - which seems to be the simplest solutions. Can anyone suggest a product that will do the job? Regards, Maciek Ksiezycki PKO, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
XMIT the PDSE to a flat file. FTP (binary) the Xmitted file. RECEIVE the file on the target system. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
Hello Maciek: If you or your client has a copy of CA-XCOM (the mainframe version at release 11) it will do that for you. http://www3.ca.com/solutions/Product.aspx?ID=145 Regards, Glenn Glenn A. Havelock CA Senior Consultant cell 908-398-7726 office 908-874-9436 fax 908-766-6461 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maciej Ksiezycki Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How to transfer PDSE libraries? We are on z/OS 1.7. We have a problem with automated copying PDSE libraries between two systems. We had been using BDT until we needed to copy PDSE datasets. For some reasons we cannot use shared DASDs and IEBCOPY - which seems to be the simplest solutions. Can anyone suggest a product that will do the job? Regards, Maciek Ksiezycki PKO, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
Bob Shannon wrote: > XMIT the PDSE to a flat file. FTP (binary) the Xmitted file. > RECEIVE the file on the target system. If JES subsystems on the two systems are connected via NJE, then just XMIT the PDS-E to a user on the other system, and RECEIVE it there; no need to go through the flat file and FTP in that case. If the two share spool, you don't even need an NJE connection. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system is from the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a sequential dataset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If both systems are in the same datacenter I'd write it to tape or virtual tape. Walter Trovijo Jr. > > We are on z/OS 1.7. We have a problem with automated copying PDSE > libraries > between two systems. We had been using BDT until we needed to copy PDSE > datasets. > For some reasons we cannot use shared DASDs and IEBCOPY - which seems to > be > the simplest solutions. > Can anyone suggest a product that will do the job? > Regards, > Maciek Ksiezycki > PKO, Poland > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
In a recent note, wtrovijo said: > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:00 -0300 > > Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system is fr > om the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a sequential dat > aset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If both systems are > Are ADRDSSU DUMP data sets FTP-able? Even more, can they be stored and forwarded from a non-mainframe platform? I tried looking this up in the RM, couldn't really reach a conclusion based on format descriptions. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
I use to TERSE the sequential file from ADRDSSU, ftp it, UNTERSE it and then restore. I found it very nice, much more convenient than xmit. If I remember correctly it even does VSAM but its been awhile so I'm not sure. There was some operand on the restore to allow me to change the name of the HLQ, which for me was a requirement. The only restriction I found was that sometimes at the target site, restoration was difficult, because apparently some sites restrict the use of the utility via RACF rules. Brad Taylor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries? In a recent note, wtrovijo said: > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:00 -0300 > > Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system > is fr om the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a > sequential dat aset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then > RESTORE. If both systems are > Are ADRDSSU DUMP data sets FTP-able? Even more, can they be stored and forwarded from a non-mainframe platform? I tried looking this up in the RM, couldn't really reach a conclusion based on format descriptions. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:26 AM, wtrovijo wrote: Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far one system is from the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to a sequential dataset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If both systems are in the same datacenter I'd write it to tape or virtual tape. Walter Trovijo Jr. Somewhere along the line I had heard that ADRDSSU uses other IBM utilities to access various datasets. Like IDCAMS for vsam datasets and IEBCOPY for PDS(e)'s *IF* that is the case then why not use IEBCOPY ? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
> > Somewhere along the line I had heard that ADRDSSU uses other IBM > utilities to access various datasets. Like IDCAMS for vsam datasets > and IEBCOPY for PDS(e)'s *IF* that is the case then why not use > IEBCOPY ? > > Ed The idea of using DUMP/RESTORE was just because it's easier to dump several libraries (and other kinds of datases too) to a single sequential output using ADRDSSU generic name and nice selection criteria it has. Walter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:40 PM, wtrovijo wrote: Somewhere along the line I had heard that ADRDSSU uses other IBM utilities to access various datasets. Like IDCAMS for vsam datasets and IEBCOPY for PDS(e)'s *IF* that is the case then why not use IEBCOPY ? Ed The idea of using DUMP/RESTORE was just because it's easier to dump several libraries (and other kinds of datases too) to a single sequential output using ADRDSSU generic name and nice selection criteria it has. True but IEHMOVE does this as well . The output is 80/800 unless overridden. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries? > > True but IEHMOVE does this as well . The output is 80/800 unless > overridden. > > Ed IEHMOVE??? You're a sick, sick man, Ed . -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
On Apr 4, 2007, at 2:45 PM, McKown, John wrote: ---SNIP IEHMOVE??? You're a sick, sick man, Ed . John, Well it was inflicted on us over 30 years ago. I thought the pain would have receded by now . It hasn't. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries?
Thank you everyone who replied to my question. Your input was very interesting and helpful. Maciek Ksiezycki PKO, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Transferring DFDSS dumps via ftp (was: RE: How to transfer PDSE libraries?)
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:07 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How to transfer PDSE libraries? > > > In a recent note, wtrovijo said: > > > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:00 -0300 > > > > Have you tried ADRDSSU DUMP/RESTORE? You didn't say how far > one system is fr > > om the other, but depending on the distance you can DUMP to > a sequential dat > > aset, ftp it to remote system (binary) and then RESTORE. If > both systems are > > > Are ADRDSSU DUMP data sets FTP-able? Even more, can they be stored > and forwarded from a non-mainframe platform? I tried looking this up > in the RM, couldn't really reach a conclusion based on format > descriptions. > > -- gil Yes. I do it all the time. Use DFDSS to dump to a file, lets call it DUMP.FILE. On your PC: ftp zos.com user password bin quote stru r get dump.file To upload ftp zos2.com user password bin quote site recfm=u lrecl=??? blksize=??? pri=?? sec=?? cylinders quote stru r put dump.file Replace the question marks with the appropriate values. For LRECL and BLKSIZE, set them the same as they were on the original DFDSS dump file. Or just use TRSMAIN to make the DFDSS file LRECL=4096 RECFM=FB. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
