Re: Howards VSAM Problem
Well, I have absolutely no input to any decision making. In the NYC Metro, mainframe jobs are really hard to come by. Some times I really feel trapped...I'de even go for the early 90s "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Howards VSAM Problem > > > On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Howard Rifkind wrote: > > > > No longer worth while...the box is going to be replace in favor of > > blade servers running linux. I was told that this is the wave of > > the future. > > > > Howard, sorry you feel that way The battles are almost always worth > fighting, IMO. > > Ed Ed, I know what has happened around here to those who "rocked the boat" (previous administration). Howard may not be in a position to find a new job right now. I miss the 80's! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM Problem
On Jul 7, 2006, at 8:21 AM, McKown, John wrote: Ed, I know what has happened around here to those who "rocked the boat" (previous administration). Howard may not be in a position to find a new job right now. I miss the 80's! John, If he hasn't been looking by now its too late anyway. In any case he never has to give ultinmatiums he can always show that there is a better way. That is almost always welcome. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM Problem
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Howards VSAM Problem > > > On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Howard Rifkind wrote: > > > > No longer worth while...the box is going to be replace in favor of > > blade servers running linux. I was told that this is the wave of > > the future. > > > > Howard, sorry you feel that way The battles are almost always worth > fighting, IMO. > > Ed Ed, I know what has happened around here to those who "rocked the boat" (previous administration). Howard may not be in a position to find a new job right now. I miss the 80's! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Howards VSAM Problem
On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Howard Rifkind wrote: No longer worth while...the box is going to be replace in favor of blade servers running linux. I was told that this is the wave of the future. Howard, sorry you feel that way The battles are almost always worth fighting, IMO. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM problem
Yes John, but go and try to tell them that. IBM's BC z manchine can be gotten for some where in the $100k area, real damm cheap. And that would put the blades to sleep for a long to come. All their so called applications requiring linux would run fine on the z and then we could take hardware issues out of the picture and be left with junk software. Go figure. "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind > > No longer worth while...the box is going to be replace in > favor of blade servers running linux. I was told that this > is the wave of the future. Could be. But if that "blade farm" grows beyond a certain size, they're gonna wish they had a centralized "elevator" in which to store all their "grain" (Insert one of Tim Sipples' evangelicals about z/Linux on z/VM here.) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM problem
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind > > No longer worth while...the box is going to be replace in > favor of blade servers running linux. I was told that this > is the wave of the future. Could be. But if that "blade farm" grows beyond a certain size, they're gonna wish they had a centralized "elevator" in which to store all their "grain" (Insert one of Tim Sipples' evangelicals about z/Linux on z/VM here.) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM problem
No longer worth while...the box is going to be replace in favor of blade servers running linux. I was told that this is the wave of the future. Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howard, Good its an opportunity for you to fix the problems. Ed On Jul 6, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Howard Rifkind wrote: > Ed, because the system was poorly maintained for years, starved for > money and people, maintained by applications people, systems > programmers and the like who didn't know they didn't know and were > left to run wild and had no idea of what the term 'best practices' > ment...no clue. > > Ed Gould wrote: > Good ideas John, >> >> The problem is that on both lpars the master catalogs are the >> same names and the datasets on the test lpar are in the master >> catalog. >> > > I know I shouldn't ask but what is a USER VSAM dataset doing in a > mastercat? > > Ed > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > - > Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. > Just radically better. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM problem
Howard, Good its an opportunity for you to fix the problems. Ed On Jul 6, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Howard Rifkind wrote: Ed, because the system was poorly maintained for years, starved for money and people, maintained by applications people, systems programmers and the like who didn't know they didn't know and were left to run wild and had no idea of what the term 'best practices' ment...no clue. Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good ideas John, The problem is that on both lpars the master catalogs are the same names and the datasets on the test lpar are in the master catalog. I know I shouldn't ask but what is a USER VSAM dataset doing in a mastercat? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howards VSAM problem
Ed, because the system was poorly maintained for years, starved for money and people, maintained by applications people, systems programmers and the like who didn't know they didn't know and were left to run wild and had no idea of what the term 'best practices' ment...no clue. Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good ideas John, > > The problem is that on both lpars the master catalogs are the > same names and the datasets on the test lpar are in the master > catalog. > I know I shouldn't ask but what is a USER VSAM dataset doing in a mastercat? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Howards VSAM problem
Good ideas John, The problem is that on both lpars the master catalogs are the same names and the datasets on the test lpar are in the master catalog. I know I shouldn't ask but what is a USER VSAM dataset doing in a mastercat? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
