Re: IBM COD
Timothy, thanks for this update. I don't understand how WLC increases for z/OS and IMS by one MSU and not for CICS. Maybe, you consider CICS is running on one other Lpar which an equal z/OS consumption? To resume, I think new OOCoD records for z10 are very attractive because you can fix your capacity as you want,when you want,etc.. with an autonomic view (why not!). Then you can manage well all IPLA products without surprise if your negotiated VUs allow it. But the customer must control very well the MLC process because a temporary added capacity of 250 MSUs just for one day could affect really WLC if this isn't controlled;and maybe with a bad surprise on the next SCRT... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM COD
Can anyone explain how does the IBM Capacity On Demand works for z9 machines and how it impacts the softwares/applications running on the mainframes ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM COD
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:26:19 +0100, John Mitchelle john.mitche...@googlemail.com wrote: Can anyone explain how does the IBM Capacity On Demand works for z9 machines and how it impacts the softwares/applications running on the mainframes ? System z Capacity on Demand User's Guide http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2f9dfc895a8a02302852570130054a44e IBM System z Software Pricing http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/resources/swprice/ -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM COD
We have a z9 and use CoD regularly (2 to 3 times a year.) To this date, it has not affected our applications and/or subsystems (DB2, CICS, etc.) in any way. If you have any specific questions, you can contact me off the line. Frank Martinez e-Mail: fjm...@miami.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Mitchelle Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM COD Can anyone explain how does the IBM Capacity On Demand works for z9 machines and how it impacts the softwares/applications running on the mainframes ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM COD
I'll bet it affected the fees you pay for software licenses!! Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 502-495-5000 x7011 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martinez, Frank J Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM COD We have a z9 and use CoD regularly (2 to 3 times a year.) To this date, it has not affected our applications and/or subsystems (DB2, CICS, etc.) in any way. If you have any specific questions, you can contact me off the line. Frank Martinez e-Mail: fjm...@miami.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Mitchelle Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM COD Can anyone explain how does the IBM Capacity On Demand works for z9 machines and how it impacts the softwares/applications running on the mainframes ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM COD
OOCod two way (without the daily bill for HW: one amount/day/CP; less than the full online CP): 1: IPLA: consider you VUs (Value Unit) with our IBM administrative account manager; no more affect within your pre-negociation 2: MLC: sure the added capacity could affect your WLC bill (one peak on the month will make the charge) as you want, just control it. So you can control this power or not; look at http://www.zcostmanagement.com/media/On%20Demand%20Strategy%20%20zCost.pdf isn't alkill bill solution, just a control solution with good sense There are risks and costs to a program of action, but they are far less than the long-range risks and costs of comfortable inaction John F. Kennedy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM COD
Actually, for IBM IPLA (One-Time Charge) software, you have two choices. Yes, you can purchase full licenses to match the newly increased capacity. (In fact, you can purchase as much extra IPLA capacity as you want, as long as it meets or exceeds your actual four hour rolling average usage at all moments in time.) However, for the vast majority of IPLA software products IBM also offers per-day-per-MSU prices. So, just like the Capacity On Demand CP(s) (daily MIPS), you can buy single day(s) of IPLA software. That's the default plan, actually. To pick an example at random, if you turn on Capacity On Demand for one day (i.e. less than 24 hours), and you raise your softcap by 1 MSU, and you run one additional MSU of WebSphere Application Server for z/OS Version 7 (5655-N02) above your existing entitlement, then you would be charged $5 (U.S. price) for the additional MSU-day. (Yes, you read that correctly. One MSU for one Capacity On Demand day of WebSphere Application Server for z/OS is 5 dollars in the U.S.), Or, if you prefer another way to look at it, let's suppose that single additional MSU lets you run one additional transaction per second. If you do that for 20 hours, that's 72,000 more transactions (20 x 60 x 60). Thus the price for the extra WebSphere use is $0.694 per transaction. That's about 7/1000ths of a penny. Note that IPLA MSU-day prices are flat. There is no price curve here for either quantity of MSUs or duration. In other words, if you are a customer with a System z10 BC Model A01 (3 MSUs), and you activate Capacity On-Demand to add one additional MSU, you would pay $5 additional for WebSphere Application Server per day. This is the same price as a big customer would pay increasing their 1000 MSU machine (and WebSphere use) to 1001 MSUs. The smaller customer increases MIPS by 33% for one day, while the latter customer increases MIPS by 0.1%. It's only $5 per WebSphere MSU-day in both cases. MLC software is still calculated based on monthly peak (that's what the M means), so if you increase your peak four hour rolling average MSUs in any particular month then you're charged according to your new peak, per sub-capacity product. For example, if you increase your IMS and z/OS use by one MSU but not your CICS, then you'd pay for the additional MSU only for IMS and z/OS for that particular month. (I'm assuming EWLC or VWLC here.) Anyway, I just wanted to expand a bit on what Jacky Hofbauer said. Hope that helps. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
