Re: IBM speaks up on DB2 issue

2009-06-01 Thread Dirk Johann
You see: it is about DB2 LUW, not DB2 z/OS. There are no containers on DB2
z/OS.

Dirk
 

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IBM clears name in GSIS system crash
By Karen Flores, abs-cbnNEWS.com | 05/31/2009 1:26 PM

Officials of IBM Philippines finally broke their silence regarding their
alleged liability in the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) system
crash.

In an exclusive meeting with ABS-CBN News on Friday, IBM officials made it
clear that the company does not have any contractual obligation to support
the state-run pension fund manager, saying that IBM is merely an original
equipment manufacturer (OEM) to one of the technology vendors engaged by
GSIS.

If you look at the project, we're really nowhere near it...How can we
establish the root cause if we don't have a contractual obligation to them?
IBM said.

An OEM is a producer that provides a certain product to its client, who in
turn proceeds to customize it before distributing it to its customers. In
this case, IBM is an OEM to business software solutions firm SAP by
providing a database management software called IBM DB2.

According to IBM's website, the company has worked with SAP for more than 35
years in offering solutions that help governments integrate processes and
systems.

SAP, in turn, is involved with systems integrator Questronix Corp., who
leads the whole project with GSIS. Questronix has been a business partner of
IBM for over 20 years, as mentioned in the former's official website.

For the GSIS project, IBM said the software they provided is tasked to
manage the fund manager's records and loans. They said, however, that IBM
DB2's performance is based on how it is used by the agency or company in
charge of handling the software.

We don't know how DB2 is customized. [There are] so many things involved in
an SAP application project, IBM said.

We only work through SAP, Questronix. [Still,] we're more than willing to
talk to them (GSIS), fix solutions, IBM added.

IBM blamed for system crash

Earlier, GSIS demanded IBM to provide a permanent fix to the DB2 software
and to shoulder expenses caused by the inherent defects of the software to
the fund manager's operations.

GSIS said the IBM software had started showing problems last year,
particularly in handling voluminous chunks of data. In response to this, IBM
then upgraded its database system purportedly to enable it to handle
unlimited volumes of data.

But GSIS said the upgrade only worsened the problem as the database began
mishandling data. The GSIS system eventually crashed two months ago,
paralyzing major operations of the pension fund manager and resulting in the
slowdown of its claims and loans processing.

IBM, however said that a system can crash in many ways. When all data is
stored in a single container instead of multiple destinations, a crash will
occur unless they spread the data out.

Corrupted data can also cause the system to crash, this is called a 'bad
page.' An application, a disk, or even data itself can be a source of
corruption, IBM added.

According to Elamparo, IBM already knew of the problems of its software
almost a year before the system crashed. IBM, however, said GSIS only
advised them about the crash last April 9. We have nothing to do, much less
aware of, previous crashes.

The company also denied the pension fund manager's claims that even
Questronix and SAP pointed the blame to the IBM DB2 software. Questronix
hasn't established the root cause. They didn't blame IBM. GSIS should
evaluate their processes, IBM explained.

This issue has caused damage to the company. [GSIS] said IBM is
responsible, but we don't even know what the root problem is. They made it
look like we were very involved. They never came to IBM, the company added.

Still, IBM said it is willing to have an amicable discussion with GSIS so
the issue can finally be settled. As much as possible, we don't want to say
anything against our client. GSIS is still our client.


  

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IBM speaks up on DB2 issue

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Gould
IBM clears name in GSIS system crash
By Karen Flores, abs-cbnNEWS.com | 05/31/2009 1:26 PM

Officials of IBM Philippines finally broke their silence regarding their 
alleged liability in the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) system 
crash.

In an exclusive meeting with ABS-CBN News on Friday, IBM officials made it 
clear that the company does not have any contractual obligation to support the 
state-run pension fund manager, saying that IBM is merely an original equipment 
manufacturer (OEM) to one of the technology vendors engaged by GSIS.

If you look at the project, we're really nowhere near it...How can we 
establish the root cause if we don't have a contractual obligation to them? 
IBM said.

An OEM is a producer that provides a certain product to its client, who in turn 
proceeds to customize it before distributing it to its customers. In this case, 
IBM is an OEM to business software solutions firm SAP by providing a database 
management software called IBM DB2.

According to IBM's website, the company has worked with SAP for more than 35 
years in offering solutions that help governments integrate processes and 
systems.

SAP, in turn, is involved with systems integrator Questronix Corp., who leads 
the whole project with GSIS. Questronix has been a business partner of IBM for 
over 20 years, as mentioned in the former's official website.

For the GSIS project, IBM said the software they provided is tasked to manage 
the fund manager's records and loans. They said, however, that IBM DB2's 
performance is based on how it is used by the agency or company in charge of 
handling the software.

We don't know how DB2 is customized. [There are] so many things involved in an 
SAP application project, IBM said.

We only work through SAP, Questronix. [Still,] we're more than willing to talk 
to them (GSIS), fix solutions, IBM added.

IBM blamed for system crash

Earlier, GSIS demanded IBM to provide a permanent fix to the DB2 software and 
to shoulder expenses caused by the inherent defects of the software to the 
fund manager's operations.

GSIS said the IBM software had started showing problems last year, particularly 
in handling voluminous chunks of data. In response to this, IBM then upgraded 
its database system purportedly to enable it to handle unlimited volumes of 
data.

But GSIS said the upgrade only worsened the problem as the database began 
mishandling data. The GSIS system eventually crashed two months ago, paralyzing 
major operations of the pension fund manager and resulting in the slowdown of 
its claims and loans processing.

IBM, however said that a system can crash in many ways. When all data is 
stored in a single container instead of multiple destinations, a crash will 
occur unless they spread the data out.

Corrupted data can also cause the system to crash, this is called a 'bad 
page.' An application, a disk, or even data itself can be a source of 
corruption, IBM added.

According to Elamparo, IBM already knew of the problems of its software almost 
a year before the system crashed. IBM, however, said GSIS only advised them 
about the crash last April 9. We have nothing to do, much less aware of, 
previous crashes.

The company also denied the pension fund manager's claims that even Questronix 
and SAP pointed the blame to the IBM DB2 software. Questronix hasn't 
established the root cause. They didn't blame IBM. GSIS should evaluate their 
processes, IBM explained.

This issue has caused damage to the company. [GSIS] said IBM is responsible, 
but we don't even know what the root problem is. They made it look like we were 
very involved. They never came to IBM, the company added.

Still, IBM said it is willing to have an amicable discussion with GSIS so the 
issue can finally be settled. As much as possible, we don't want to say 
anything against our client. GSIS is still our client.


  

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