Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-09 Thread Hal Merritt
Both systems are at 1.11. 

Thanks!! 


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Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles

Hal,

What FMID is on the 1.9 system, and what FMID on the 1.11 system?And the 
other question, if different, is any require toleration support applied to the 
1.9 system?

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Dave Jousma
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Hal Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles


 Thanks for the replies so far! 

Rob: Here are my parms:
CKDSN(My.CKDS) 
PKDSN(My.PKDS)
COMPAT(NO)
SSM(YES)  
DOMAIN(2) 
KEYAUTH(NO)   
CHECKAUTH(NO) 
TRACEENTRY(1000)  
USERPARM(USERPARM)
COMPENC(DES)  
REASONCODES(ICSF) 
PKDSCACHE(64) 

Allen: The LRECL of the PKDS does not seem to be an issue. It occurs (or works) 
with either. 

John: No VM. There is nothing to suggest a real hardware issue. 

We use GRS for sharing. The member in SAMPLIB was used to define the clusters. 
The share options are 2,3. 

This was working just fine untill we upgraded from z/os 1.9 to z/os 1.11.  


Again, thanks all!!






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zSeries Systems Programmer
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles

Just a few items

How are you sharing?  GRS?  CA-MIM?  Etc.

Were the files defined with the correct share options?

Was this working before or new configuration?

On Thursday, March 3, 2011, Ward, Mike S  wrote:
> We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Hal Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: ICSF Troubles
>
> We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we 
> received the following:
>
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN 
> CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER 
> AVAILABLE.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
> 11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF      ENDED
>
> We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF 
> is critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am 
> currently of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.
>
> When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. 
> However, CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM 
> seems to say that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the 
> first key is stowed. Not sure how to do that.
>
> I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now 
> my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a 
> bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be 
> equivalent to a full outage.
>
> What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried 
> starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-09 Thread Larre Shiller
Hal -

Is this issue described by APAR OA29163?

Larre Shiller
US Social Security Administration

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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-09 Thread Jousma, David
Hal,

What FMID is on the 1.9 system, and what FMID on the 1.11 system?And the 
other question, if different, is any require toleration support applied to the 
1.9 system?

_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.8497


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Hal Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles


 Thanks for the replies so far! 

Rob: Here are my parms:
CKDSN(My.CKDS) 
PKDSN(My.PKDS)
COMPAT(NO)
SSM(YES)  
DOMAIN(2) 
KEYAUTH(NO)   
CHECKAUTH(NO) 
TRACEENTRY(1000)  
USERPARM(USERPARM)
COMPENC(DES)  
REASONCODES(ICSF) 
PKDSCACHE(64) 

Allen: The LRECL of the PKDS does not seem to be an issue. It occurs (or works) 
with either. 

John: No VM. There is nothing to suggest a real hardware issue. 

We use GRS for sharing. The member in SAMPLIB was used to define the clusters. 
The share options are 2,3. 

This was working just fine untill we upgraded from z/os 1.9 to z/os 1.11.  


Again, thanks all!!






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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
zSeries Systems Programmer
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles

Just a few items

How are you sharing?  GRS?  CA-MIM?  Etc.

Were the files defined with the correct share options?

Was this working before or new configuration?

On Thursday, March 3, 2011, Ward, Mike S  wrote:
> We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Hal Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: ICSF Troubles
>
> We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we 
> received the following:
>
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN 
> CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER 
> AVAILABLE.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
> 11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF      ENDED
>
> We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF 
> is critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am 
> currently of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.
>
> When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. 
> However, CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM 
> seems to say that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the 
> first key is stowed. Not sure how to do that.
>
> I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now 
> my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a 
> bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be 
> equivalent to a full outage.
>
> What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried 
> starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-08 Thread Rob Schramm
Hal,

Ok.  Let's look at a couple of things

DISPLAY GRS,RES=(SYSZPKT.*)
DISPLAY GRS,RES=(SYSDSN.*) <<= look for anyone using My.PKDS

I can tell you that weird things start to happen if you have something
accessing the PKDS that is not the ICSF task.  The ENQ scheme does not take
non-participants into account.  

The safe thing would be to code SYSPLEXPKDS(YES,FAIL(YES)) and let the
system do the heavy lifting.  

You might try the PKDSLIST program to make sure that your PKDS is indeed
empty.  

http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS1903

How many PKDS data sets are in your sysplex now?

Rob Schramm



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Of Hal Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles

 Thanks for the replies so far! 

Rob: Here are my parms:
CKDSN(My.CKDS) 
PKDSN(My.PKDS)
COMPAT(NO)
SSM(YES)  
DOMAIN(2) 
KEYAUTH(NO)   
CHECKAUTH(NO) 
TRACEENTRY(1000)  
USERPARM(USERPARM)
COMPENC(DES)  
REASONCODES(ICSF) 
PKDSCACHE(64) 

Allen: The LRECL of the PKDS does not seem to be an issue. It occurs (or
works) with either. 

John: No VM. There is nothing to suggest a real hardware issue. 

We use GRS for sharing. The member in SAMPLIB was used to define the
clusters. The share options are 2,3. 

This was working just fine untill we upgraded from z/os 1.9 to z/os 1.11.  


Again, thanks all!!






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Of zSeries Systems Programmer
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles

Just a few items

How are you sharing?  GRS?  CA-MIM?  Etc.

Were the files defined with the correct share options?

Was this working before or new configuration?

On Thursday, March 3, 2011, Ward, Mike S  wrote:
> We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Hal Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: ICSF Troubles
>
> We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we 
> received the following:
>
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN 
> CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER 
> AVAILABLE.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
> 11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF      ENDED
>
> We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF 
> is critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am 
> currently of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.
>
> When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. 
> However, CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM 
> seems to say that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the 
> first key is stowed. Not sure how to do that.
>
> I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now 
> my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a 
> bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be 
> equivalent to a full outage.
>
> What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried 
> starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-08 Thread Larre Shiller
Hal -

I'm a little late to this party, but I saw your post and I remembered that we 
had some changes to make when we converted to zOS 1.11 (seems like so 
long ago..).  Based on my notes, it looks like we had to remove the COMPENC 
and PKDSCACHE parameters--I think they are no longer supported.

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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-08 Thread Hal Merritt
 Thanks for the replies so far! 

Rob: Here are my parms:
CKDSN(My.CKDS) 
PKDSN(My.PKDS)
COMPAT(NO)
SSM(YES)  
DOMAIN(2) 
KEYAUTH(NO)   
CHECKAUTH(NO) 
TRACEENTRY(1000)  
USERPARM(USERPARM)
COMPENC(DES)  
REASONCODES(ICSF) 
PKDSCACHE(64) 

Allen: The LRECL of the PKDS does not seem to be an issue. It occurs (or works) 
with either. 

John: No VM. There is nothing to suggest a real hardware issue. 

We use GRS for sharing. The member in SAMPLIB was used to define the clusters. 
The share options are 2,3. 

This was working just fine untill we upgraded from z/os 1.9 to z/os 1.11.  


Again, thanks all!!






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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
zSeries Systems Programmer
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ICSF Troubles

Just a few items

How are you sharing?  GRS?  CA-MIM?  Etc.

Were the files defined with the correct share options?

Was this working before or new configuration?

On Thursday, March 3, 2011, Ward, Mike S  wrote:
> We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Hal Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: ICSF Troubles
>
> We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we 
> received the following:
>
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN 
> CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER 
> AVAILABLE.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
> 11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF      ENDED
>
> We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF 
> is critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am 
> currently of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.
>
> When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. 
> However, CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM 
> seems to say that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the 
> first key is stowed. Not sure how to do that.
>
> I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now 
> my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a 
> bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be 
> equivalent to a full outage.
>
> What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried 
> starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread zSeries Systems Programmer
Just a few items

How are you sharing?  GRS?  CA-MIM?  Etc.

Were the files defined with the correct share options?

Was this working before or new configuration?

On Thursday, March 3, 2011, Ward, Mike S  wrote:
> We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Hal Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: ICSF Troubles
>
> We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we
> received the following:
>
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN
> CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER
> AVAILABLE.
> 11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
> 11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF      ENDED
>
> We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
> critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently
> of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.
>
> When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However,
> CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say
> that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is
> stowed. Not sure how to do that.
>
> I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now
> my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a
> bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be
> equivalent to a full outage.
>
> What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
> starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Ward, Mike S
We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars. 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Hal Merritt
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: ICSF Troubles

We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we
received the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN
CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER
AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently
of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However,
CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say
that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is
stowed. Not sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now
my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a
bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be
equivalent to a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Staller, Allan
1) Check SYS1.PARMLIB(CSFPRM*). It may be pointing to the wrong place.
2) Check the LRECL of the PKDS. 1.11 changed the LRECL of the PKDS. See 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2M17A/8.2.
6?DT=20090616151803

HTH.



We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we
received the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN
CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER
AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently
of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However,
CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say
that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is
stowed. Not sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now
my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a
bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be
equivalent to a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.


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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread John P. Baker
Hal,

The reason code of 1780 indicates that a DASD I/O error occurred when
accessing the dataset.

Have you checked EREP for any diagnostic information?

Also, are you running under z/VM?

John P. Baker
Chief Software Architect
HFD Technologies

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Subject: ICSF Troubles

We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we received
the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN CODE =
000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently of
the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However, CSF
on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say that
the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is stowed. Not
sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now my
workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a bit
nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be equivalent to
a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Rob Schramm
Hal,

Care to post your csfparm (minus the ckds data set name plz) ... or look for
any SYSPLEX keywords and post them?

Thanks,
Rob Schramm

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Subject: ICSF Troubles

We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we received
the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN CODE =
000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently of
the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However, CSF
on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say that
the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is stowed. Not
sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now my
workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a bit
nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be equivalent to
a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Hal Merritt
We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we received the 
following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN CODE = 
000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is 
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently of the 
opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However, CSF on 
LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say that the PKDS 
is not completely initialized until the first key is stowed. Not sure how to do 
that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now my 
workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a bit nervous 
as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be equivalent to a full 
outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried starting 
with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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