Re: zIIP zAAP, ICF, IFL question

2008-09-14 Thread R.S.

Edward Jaffe wrote:

Rich Smrcina wrote:

I'm going to quess the answer to Q1 is no.


I experimented with using ICF as IFL on our z800 and it worked. I have 
not tried it on our z9BC.


It's not exactly cost effective. ICF is considerably more expensive 
than IFL...


I expect that cheaper processor won't work for more expensive 
workload. g
I'm wondering about hte opposite - cheaper workload and more expensive 
processor.

BTW: Is ICF so much more expensive ?

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Re: zIIP zAAP, ICF, IFL question

2008-09-13 Thread Rich Smrcina

I'm going to quess the answer to Q1 is no.

Q4 will depend upon your geography and who you deal with (IBM or a BP). 
 In the US, prices are quite variable, but it may not be that way in 
other parts of the world.



On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

AFAIK the first specialty engine was ICF, then IFL was introduced, then
zAAP, then zIIP.
However my interest concerns engine substitution, ie.
can general purpose CP (GP) work as ICF, that means be used by CF -
obviously yes.

Now the questions:

Q1. Can ICF work as IFL ?
Q2. Can I use IFL and GP mixture within single LPAR ?
Q3. Can I use zIIP or zAAP as ICF ?
Q4. What is prices order othe the engines (which one is the cheapest) ?
Q5. Is is possible to order engine conversion, i.e. change zIIP to zAAP -
and what is typical price for such change? Is it only engine price
difference or more ?


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Re: zIIP zAAP, ICF, IFL question

2008-09-13 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, R.S. wrote:

 AFAIK the first specialty engine was ICF, then IFL was introduced, then 
 zAAP, then zIIP.
 However my interest concerns engine substitution, ie.
 can general purpose CP (GP) work as ICF, that means be used by CF - 
 obviously yes.
 
 Now the questions:
 
 Q1. Can ICF work as IFL ?

I did this on a z890. I wanted to do it on the new z9BC to save my IFL. 
My manager told me that IBM had told him that the IFL could currently run 
as an ICF, but that future microcode changes __might__ remove the 
capability without warning.

 Q2. Can I use IFL and GP mixture within single LPAR ?

I think this has been announced for the z10 in the future.

 Q3. Can I use zIIP or zAAP as ICF ?
 Q4. What is prices order othe the engines (which one is the cheapest) ?
 Q5. Is is possible to order engine conversion, i.e. change zIIP to zAAP 
 - and what is typical price for such change? Is it only engine price 
 difference or more ?
 
 
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IFL Question

2008-04-19 Thread R. Haq
Our shop has z/890 with  IFL Processor   (Product # 6516).
WE have three MVS Lpar active and using. Now want to activate IFL 
processor. WE created new lpar for VM/linux by defining IODF for VM LPAR but 
could not be able to configure/link IFL processor with VM LPAR. 

I will be grateful if you please help us and guide us for the procedure to 
define 
IFL processor with our VM LPAR.
Please give us some procedure to dispaly and activate  IFL pocessor with VM 
LPAR.
Thanks for you assistance.
Regards
Khalid

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Re: IFL Question

2008-04-19 Thread Myers, Edouard (OCTO)
You can connect your LPAR to the IFL via the HMC console under customize 
activation profiles.
 
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Subject: IFL Question



Our shop has z/890 with  IFL Processor   (Product # 6516).
WE have three MVS Lpar active and using. Now want to activate IFL
processor. WE created new lpar for VM/linux by defining IODF for VM LPAR but
could not be able to configure/link IFL processor with VM LPAR.

I will be grateful if you please help us and guide us for the procedure to 
define
IFL processor with our VM LPAR.
Please give us some procedure to dispaly and activate  IFL pocessor with VM
LPAR.
Thanks for you assistance.
Regards
Khalid

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Re: IFL Question

2008-04-19 Thread Field, Alan C.
Did you do a POR with the new IOCDS? You have to use the HMC and build
an image profile for the new lpar. The image profile defines things like
the amount of storage, weight and processor type. You want to select
IFL. 

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Our shop has z/890 with  IFL Processor   (Product # 6516).
WE have three MVS Lpar active and using. Now want to activate IFL 
processor. WE created new lpar for VM/linux by defining IODF for VM LPAR
but 
could not be able to configure/link IFL processor with VM LPAR. 

I will be grateful if you please help us and guide us for the procedure
to define 
IFL processor with our VM LPAR.
Please give us some procedure to dispaly and activate  IFL pocessor with
VM 
LPAR.
Thanks for you assistance.
Regards
Khalid

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