Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-26 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Within ISPF, issue DDLIST, then the S command followed by the module
name you're looking for.

Don Imbriale

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Don,
Many Thanks sir.  I forgot to look in inittuning ref.   Have you ever
used ISRFIND to locate LPA modules?  I use it regularly to locate where
mods are executed from and normally when a module is in MLPA,  ISRFIND,
sees/finds it.  In this case however I do not see the MLPA
module...only
the PLPA version.  Perhaps ISRFIND is quirky.  What do you use to
locate
MLPA modules, simply rely on IEALPAxx?



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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-26 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
AMBLIST only lists PLPA...In the case where you are searching for what
is being executed, if it is an MLPA module AMBLIST LISTLPA wont work.
As sent from prior posts the search order is FLPA, MLPA, and finally
LPA.


Jeff Ruegsegger


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Ruegsegger, Jeff wrote:
 ... What do you use to locate
 MLPA modules, simply rely on IEALPAxx?
   

I believe the official interface is AMBLIST: 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2v161/15.1
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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
Jeff, 

AMBLIST lists PLPA, MLPA and/or FLPA if you use the link-provided syntax 
from Ed's post yesterday.  

To summarize:

   LISTLPA [FLPA][,MLPA][,PLPA]   

What AMBLIST does NOT list is the Dynamic LPA, a deficiency that IBM has 
noted - but not responded to with a solution to date.  

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On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:56:59 -0700, Ruegsegger, Jeff wrote:

AMBLIST only lists PLPA...In the case where you are searching for what
is being executed, if it is an MLPA module AMBLIST LISTLPA wont work.
As sent from prior posts the search order is FLPA, MLPA, and finally
LPA.

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-25 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Sam,
Does an MLPA mod get control over a module in PLPA(ie sys1.lpalib) ?

Jeff Ruegsegger


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Hi Jeff,

See if perhaps you are loading your IGGPRE00 into MLPA.  In
SYS1.PARMLIB(IEALPA00) you might have something like this 
   
INCLUDE LIBRARY(my.LINKLIB) MODULES(IGGPRE00) 

Best Regards, 

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We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My
sys1.lpalib contains a dummy IGGPRE00 as shipped by IBM.  One of my
linklisted libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified
in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states
that 
IGGPRE00 should reside in SYS1.LPALIB or be Link-edited into linklib.
Can someone explain how/why my IGGPRE00 is even getting picked up during
DADSM processing?

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I'm not Sam, but yes, modules in the MLPA get used instead of a
same-named module in the LPA.  The LPA search order is FLPA, MLPA, and
finally LPA.

Rex

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Sam,
Does an MLPA mod get control over a module in PLPA(ie sys1.lpalib) ?

Jeff Ruegsegger


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Subject: Re: IGGPRE00

Hi Jeff,

See if perhaps you are loading your IGGPRE00 into MLPA.  In
SYS1.PARMLIB(IEALPA00) you might have something like this 
   
INCLUDE LIBRARY(my.LINKLIB) MODULES(IGGPRE00) 

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
Performance and Availability Management 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(office)  301.986.3574 

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is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals.
We cause accidents. - Nathaniel Borenstein   



We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My
sys1.lpalib contains a dummy IGGPRE00 as shipped by IBM.  One of my
linklisted libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified
in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states
that 
IGGPRE00 should reside in SYS1.LPALIB or be Link-edited into linklib.
Can someone explain how/why my IGGPRE00 is even getting picked up during
DADSM processing?

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-25 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
LPA is searched in this order:

a.  Dynamic LPA modules, as specified in PROGxx members 
b.  Fixed LPA (FLPA) modules, as specified in IEAFIXxx members 
c.  Modified LPA (MLPA) modules, as specified in IEALPAxx members 
d.  Pageable LPA (PLPA) modules, loaded from libraries specified in
LPALSTxx or PROGxx

From Init  Tuning Reference. 

Don Imbriale

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Sam,
Does an MLPA mod get control over a module in PLPA(ie sys1.lpalib) ?

Jeff Ruegsegger




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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-25 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Don,
Many Thanks sir.  I forgot to look in inittuning ref.   Have you ever
used ISRFIND to locate LPA modules?  I use it regularly to locate where
mods are executed from and normally when a module is in MLPA,  ISRFIND,
sees/finds it.  In this case however I do not see the MLPA module...only
the PLPA version.  Perhaps ISRFIND is quirky.  What do you use to locate
MLPA modules, simply rely on IEALPAxx?

Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Ruegsegger


LPA is searched in this order:

a.  Dynamic LPA modules, as specified in PROGxx members 
b.  Fixed LPA (FLPA) modules, as specified in IEAFIXxx members 
c.  Modified LPA (MLPA) modules, as specified in IEALPAxx members 
d.  Pageable LPA (PLPA) modules, loaded from libraries specified in
LPALSTxx or PROGxx

From Init  Tuning Reference. 

Don Imbriale

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Subject: Re: IGGPRE00

Sam,
Does an MLPA mod get control over a module in PLPA(ie sys1.lpalib) ?

Jeff Ruegsegger




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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-25 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Already got that info from another post.
Thanks Rex!
Regards, 
Jeff



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I'm not Sam, but yes, modules in the MLPA get used instead of a
same-named module in the LPA.  The LPA search order is FLPA, MLPA, and
finally LPA.

Rex


Sam,
Does an MLPA mod get control over a module in PLPA(ie sys1.lpalib) ?

Jeff Ruegsegger


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Subject: Re: IGGPRE00

Hi Jeff,

See if perhaps you are loading your IGGPRE00 into MLPA.  In
SYS1.PARMLIB(IEALPA00) you might have something like this 
   
INCLUDE LIBRARY(my.LINKLIB) MODULES(IGGPRE00) 

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
Performance and Availability Management 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(office)  301.986.3574 

The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree,
is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals.
We cause accidents. - Nathaniel Borenstein   



We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My
sys1.lpalib contains a dummy IGGPRE00 as shipped by IBM.  One of my
linklisted libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified
in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states
that 
IGGPRE00 should reside in SYS1.LPALIB or be Link-edited into linklib.
Can someone explain how/why my IGGPRE00 is even getting picked up during
DADSM processing?

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ruegsegger, Jeff wrote:

... What do you use to locate
MLPA modules, simply rely on IEALPAxx?
  


I believe the official interface is AMBLIST: 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2v161/15.1.7


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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Jeff Ruegsegger
Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the module 
in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and the one in 
PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find one in MLPA and 
when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find my versionThe 
strangeness about it is that I know my good version is being executed.  My 
non SMS allocations are working as designed by my version of IGGPRE00.  I 
cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what I'm finding, the dummy version 
should be getting control but that is not the case. 

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:41:30 -0500, Jeff Ruegsegger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the module
in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and the one in
PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find one in MLPA and
when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find my versionThe
strangeness about it is that I know my good version is being executed.  My
non SMS allocations are working as designed by my version of IGGPRE00.  I
cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what I'm finding, the dummy version
should be getting control but that is not the case.


What does ISRDDN BROWSE or MEMBER NAME command show you?  Also,
try MXI LPD command (Link Pack Directory Entries) if you have MXI.

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

CBT File 311 from Dave Alcock has FINDMOD which is my favorite load
module search tool.

http://www.cbttape.org/

http://www.planetmvs.com/

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the 
module in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and

the one in PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find 
one in MLPA and when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find 
my versionThe strangeness about it is that I know my good version 
is being executed.  My non SMS allocations are working as designed by 
my version of IGGPRE00.  I cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what 
I'm finding, the dummy version should be getting control but that is
not the case.


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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Hi Mark,
ISRFIND shows
 -PLPA-  IGGPRE00 LOC=04310EF8 LEN=0008 EP=84310EF8 MLPDE=
   
  LPALST   
 SYS1.LPALIB  IGGPRE00 
 LINKLST  
SYS1.LINKLIB  
SYS1.MIGLIB   
SYS1.CSSLIB   
TCPIP.SEZALOAD
SYS1.AVNET.VTAMLIB
SYS1.AVNT.LINKLIBIGGPRE00

The module in LINKLIB is the correct one and in fact is the one being
used.  I just don't understand why..From above I would think the
dummy version is the one being used.

Jeff Ruegsegger
Avnet Inc.
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:41:30 -0500, Jeff Ruegsegger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the
module
in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and the
one in
PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find one in MLPA
and
when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find my
versionThe
strangeness about it is that I know my good version is being executed.
My
non SMS allocations are working as designed by my version of IGGPRE00.
I
cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what I'm finding, the dummy
version
should be getting control but that is not the case.


What does ISRDDN BROWSE or MEMBER NAME command show you?  Also,
try MXI LPD command (Link Pack Directory Entries) if you have MXI.

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IGGPRE00

2006-05-23 Thread Jeff Ruegsegger
We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My sys1.lpalib 
contains a dummy IGGPRE00 as shipped by IBM.  One of my linklisted 
libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states that 
IGGPRE00 should reside in SYS1.LPALIB or be Link-edited into linklib.  Can 
someone explain how/why my IGGPRE00 is even getting picked up during DADSM 
processing?

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Jeff,

See if perhaps you are loading your IGGPRE00 into MLPA.  In
SYS1.PARMLIB(IEALPA00) you might have something like this 
   
INCLUDE LIBRARY(my.LINKLIB) MODULES(IGGPRE00) 

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
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Subject: IGGPRE00

We use IGGPRE00 to control allocations not managed by SMS.  My
sys1.lpalib contains a dummy IGGPRE00 as shipped by IBM.  One of my
linklisted libraries contains my modified IGGPRE00 code and is specified
in 
IEALPAxx.   In reading the DFSMS Installations exit manual, it states
that 
IGGPRE00 should reside in SYS1.LPALIB or be Link-edited into linklib.
Can someone explain how/why my IGGPRE00 is even getting picked up during
DADSM processing?

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