Re: Initializing volumes via ICKDSF

2008-12-05 Thread SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Pete Eggebeen
We have run into several situations where data was accidentally erased.
For this particular situation we wrote some SAS code that pulls in an
IDCAMS DCOLLECT of the volume(s) that are to be initialized and makes sure
that there are no other datasets on the packs other than the VVDS and
VTOCIX.  If these are the only datasets, then we go ahead and build the
jobs for initializing the volumes.

We have also instituted a 'second set of eyes' rule before doing
initializes.



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Metavante Corporation
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We just had a problem were one of our Storage Admins was initializing
volumes.  He issued a route to all of our systems to vary the devices off,
but
did not check to ensure that the volumes was offline to all systems.  One
volume went pending becuase there was a dataset online to CICS.  He
completed the initialization and the VTOC was corrupted.  This is not the
first
time this has happened and now management wants to put controls in place
to prevent this from happening again.  They prefer some type of automation.

Has anyone else ever had this problem and how did you fix it?  Or do you
have
a solution.

TIA

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Re: Initializing volumes via ICKDSF

2008-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
He issued a route to all of our systems to vary the devices off, but did not 
check to ensure that the volumes was offline to all systems.  One volume went 
pending becuase there was a dataset online to CICS.  He 
completed the initialization and the VTOC was corrupted.  This is not the first 
time this has happened and now management wants to put controls in place to 
prevent this from happening again.  They prefer some type of automation.  Has 
anyone else ever had this problem and how did you fix it?  Or do you have 
a solution

At the risk of sounding facetious (or nasty), I think a lot of the solution 
would be to to hire a new storage admin, who will check before doing.

Years ago, I had a VP who had a term for this: incomplete staff-work.
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Initializing volumes via ICKDSF

2008-12-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
What control cards are used for the ICKDFS init?

The ones I use cause a RC 12 when a unit is online and trying to be clipped.

INIT UNITADDRESS(7A1A) VERIFY(EM7A1A) VOLID(Z19DL2) - 
   VTOC(2,0,120) INDEX(0,1,29)



Lizette





We just had a problem were one of our Storage Admins was initializing 
volumes.  He issued a route to all of our systems to vary the devices off, but 
did not check to ensure that the volumes was offline to all systems.  One 
volume went pending becuase there was a dataset online to CICS.  He 
completed the initialization and the VTOC was corrupted.  This is not the 
first 
time this has happened and now management wants to put controls in place 
to prevent this from happening again.  They prefer some type of automation.  
Has anyone else ever had this problem and how did you fix it?  Or do you have 
a solution. 


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Re: Initializing volumes via ICKDSF

2008-12-05 Thread gsg
I think that will only work if the volume is online to the system that your are 
running your job on.

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