Re: JES2/JES3 Difference

2006-07-07 Thread Ed Gould

Gil,

To get a copy of the system log (syslog) to the output  Q type in ("W  
#" where # is the sysout class you wish to place the syslog).


Ed

On Jul 7, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Paul Gillis wrote:


Hi,

I am trying to determine if JES2 has a similar functionality to JES3.

The JES3 inish deck allows on a SYSOUT definition the keyword  
TYPE=DSISO. This means that any spool dataset allocated with  
TYPE=DSISO is allocated its own unique track allocation table. This  
allows a dataset to be either printed or removed from the spool,  
and then that spool space returned to JES3 for other use, before  
the job concerned has terminated.


I can see that JES2 has a track allocation group but have not been  
able to determine if it has the ability to allocate a unique group  
for a specific sysout class.


Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but what I suspect, but have  
not yet confirmed, is that SYSLOG accumulates in the spool until  
JES2 is restarted. SDSF is only showing me a single dataset of  
about 60,000 lines, but then also shows me that SYSLOG has almost  
4,000,000 lines.


Regards,
Paul Gillis
Retired JES3 bigot, now JES2/SDSF apprentice.

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Re: JES2/JES3 Difference

2006-07-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 22:52:07 +1000, Paul Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>
>Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but what I suspect, but have not
>yet confirmed, is that SYSLOG accumulates in the spool until JES2 is
>restarted. SDSF is only showing me a single dataset of about 60,000
>lines, but then also shows me that SYSLOG has almost 4,000,000 lines.
>

It will accumulate under the same STC number until restart.  But it
will separate into different output groups (that can be printed, 
purged, offloaded, written to external writer, etc.) when the LOGLMT
is reached (specified in IEASYSxx)or the WRITELOG operator command is 
manually issued.  Even if the syslog is split off, SDSF will still show
it as one continuous entity via the LOG command if the older logs
are still in the spool.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: JES2/JES3 Difference

2006-07-07 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gillis
> 
> I am trying to determine if JES2 has a similar functionality to JES3.
> 
> The JES3 inish deck allows on a SYSOUT definition the keyword 
> TYPE=DSISO. This means that any spool dataset allocated with 
> TYPE=DSISO is allocated its own unique track allocation 
> table. This allows a dataset to be either printed or removed 
> from the spool, and then that spool space returned to JES3 
> for other use, before the job concerned has terminated.

Maybe something like

//OUT  DD  SYSOUT=*,FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOC

is what you're looking for?

-jc-

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Re: JES2/JES3 Difference

2006-07-07 Thread Richard Pinion
JES2 - HASP
JES3 - ASP

JES2 is only half ASP!

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/7/2006 8:52:07 AM >>>
Hi,

I am trying to determine if JES2 has a similar functionality to JES3.

The JES3 inish deck allows on a SYSOUT definition the keyword 
TYPE=DSISO. This means that any spool dataset allocated with TYPE=DSISO 
is allocated its own unique track allocation table. This allows a 
dataset to be either printed or removed from the spool, and then that 
spool space returned to JES3 for other use, before the job concerned has 
terminated.

I can see that JES2 has a track allocation group but have not been able 
to determine if it has the ability to allocate a unique group for a 
specific sysout class.

Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but what I suspect, but have not 
yet confirmed, is that SYSLOG accumulates in the spool until JES2 is 
restarted. SDSF is only showing me a single dataset of about 60,000 
lines, but then also shows me that SYSLOG has almost 4,000,000 lines.

Regards,
Paul Gillis
Retired JES3 bigot, now JES2/SDSF apprentice.

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JES2/JES3 Difference

2006-07-07 Thread Paul Gillis

Hi,

I am trying to determine if JES2 has a similar functionality to JES3.

The JES3 inish deck allows on a SYSOUT definition the keyword 
TYPE=DSISO. This means that any spool dataset allocated with TYPE=DSISO 
is allocated its own unique track allocation table. This allows a 
dataset to be either printed or removed from the spool, and then that 
spool space returned to JES3 for other use, before the job concerned has 
terminated.


I can see that JES2 has a track allocation group but have not been able 
to determine if it has the ability to allocate a unique group for a 
specific sysout class.


Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but what I suspect, but have not 
yet confirmed, is that SYSLOG accumulates in the spool until JES2 is 
restarted. SDSF is only showing me a single dataset of about 60,000 
lines, but then also shows me that SYSLOG has almost 4,000,000 lines.


Regards,
Paul Gillis
Retired JES3 bigot, now JES2/SDSF apprentice.

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