Re: LLA and FREEZE status
If it hurts, don't do that (i.e., do specify SUB=MSTR). At the very least, it is more efficient to start a space once (when you do it correctly) than twice (when the system has to re-do it for you). I will look into enhancing LLA in this case to restart using the CSVLLAxx member that was specified on the original. A change in the service stream is not all that likely, but possibly in a new release. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LLA and FREEZE status
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:40:13 -0500, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: If it hurts, don't do that (i.e., do specify SUB=MSTR). At the very least, it is more efficient to start a space once (when you do it correctly) than twice (when the system has to re-do it for you). I will look into enhancing LLA in this case to restart using the CSVLLAxx member that was specified on the original. A change in the service stream is not all that likely, but possibly in a new release. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design Peter, Was this reply to something off-list or in the newsgroup but not the listserv? It helps if some prior text is quoted. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
LLA and FREEZE status
Is there any way of finding out whether LLA was started in FREEZE mode? If the intent is to use FREEZE mode, specifications can be put in a PARMLIB member , eg as CSVLLATT, then if the command START LLA,LLA=TT is issued (ie without the SUB=MSTR), the system automatically reissues the command as START LLA,SUB=MSTR, but doesn't add the LLA=TT. That means that LLA starts but it will not be using the CSVLLATT member, and will not be using FREEZE. Is there a way to display the actual LLA status? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LLA and FREEZE status
Anthony Fletcher flet...@nz1.ibm.com wrote in message news:listserv%200912170411308548.0...@bama.ua.edu... Is there any way of finding out whether LLA was started in FREEZE mode? If the intent is to use FREEZE mode, specifications can be put in a PARMLIB member , eg as CSVLLATT, then if the command START LLA,LLA=TT is issued (ie without the SUB=MSTR), the system automatically reissues the command as START LLA,SUB=MSTR, but doesn't add the LLA=TT. That means that LLA starts but it will not be using the CSVLLATT member, and will not be using FREEZE. Is there a way to display the actual LLA status? LLA is not started in FREEZE mode or not, each library under LLA control is either in FREEZE mode or not. When you start LLA without LLA=xx, the default is LLA=00, so CSVLLA00 member is activated. Check the D LLA command for the status of LLA libraries. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LLA and FREEZE status
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:11:30 -0600, Anthony Fletcher flet...@nz1.ibm.com wrote: Is there any way of finding out whether LLA was started in FREEZE mode? If the intent is to use FREEZE mode, specifications can be put in a PARMLIB member , eg as CSVLLATT, then if the command START LLA,LLA=TT is issued (ie without the SUB=MSTR), the system automatically reissues the command as START LLA,SUB=MSTR, but doesn't add the LLA=TT. That means that LLA starts but it will not be using the CSVLLATT member, and will not be using FREEZE. Is there a way to display the actual LLA status? If you started it without the suffix (or didn't change the proc) then the default is to not use any member. This is the equivalent of specifying: LIBRARIES(-LNKLST-) And since the LNKLST is automatically frozen, it's really the same as: LIBRARIES(-LNKLST-) FREEZE(-LNKLST-) As far as displaying the status of libraries, there is a D LLA command. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LLA and FREEZE status
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:13:53 +0100, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote: When you start LLA without LLA=xx, the default is LLA=00, so CSVLLA00 member is activated. There is no default member. There is a default action of managing the LNKLST as frozen. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
