Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
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  Does anyone know the procedure to rename an LPAR on a z9 without a
 POR?
  
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 We happened to try this last week and found out it was not possible.
 
 Kees.

Some more details:
1. You cannot give an existing Lpar another name through dynamic IOCDS.
2. You can rename a reserved (name=*) lpar to a real name.
3. You can rename an existing lpar to reserved (name=*).

So yes, you can rename an Lpar in 2 IOCDS updates, rename it first to
* and then rename it to its new name.

Kees.
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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-19 Thread Martin Packer
Mark Zelden said:

 It's available with a z990 and z/OS 1.6 or above.  But you have to plan.
 It involves defining an LPAR with a name of * as a placeholder.

As a matter of interest what should RMF be expected to call this LPAR? 
I've seen lots of SMF data from customers and have an especial interest in 
Type 70 Subtype 1. And I've never seen one with an LPAR name of *.

Thanks, Martin

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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-19 Thread Al Sherkow
Besides the HCD manuals this is also described in the various hardware
redbooks like: IBM System z9 Business Class Technical Introduction.

I think RMF/SMF70-1 will only have 'activated' LPARs regardless of being
IPL'd or type of LPAR (MVS, IFL, Coupling Facility). 

So '*' can be a place holder, but not activated. 

Al Sherkow

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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-19 Thread Martin Packer
Al Sherkow said: 

 I think RMF/SMF70-1 will only have 'activated' LPARs regardless
 of being IPL'd or type of LPAR (MVS, IFL, Coupling Facility). 

I'm afraid that's not right: Inactive partitions show up in the LPAR 
sections but as having zero engines and zero memory. (I see them in raw 
SMF and in the RMF CPU Activity report. Today I don't process the sections 
for inactive LPARs and I'm beginning to think I should - for completeness 
or awareness of what the customer is doing with the machine.

Cheers, Martin

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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-18 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
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 Does anyone know the procedure to rename an LPAR on a z9 without a
POR?
 
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We happened to try this last week and found out it was not possible.

Kees.
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LPAR Rename

2008-01-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Does anyone know the procedure to rename an LPAR on a z9 without a POR?

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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-18 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm anxious for more posts on this topic. We don't yet have a z9, but I
thought that one of the selling points was being able to define 'dummy'
LPARs in advance, then make them 'real' as needed by 'renaming' and
assigning memory, CPs, and I/O connections, all without a POR.

Am I missing something in the z9 or in the original question?

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 Does anyone know the procedure to rename an LPAR on a z9 without a
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We happened to try this last week and found out it was not possible.

Kees.

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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
I opened up an ETR with IBM on my question and I received this answer.

You can change the name dynamically. Basically have to change the image
to reserve and then from reserve to the new name. To change the
partition to reserve, you have to disconnect all channel paths and
devices from the partition. See the HCD User's guide for section
Changing partitions in chapter 6.

Once the image is down, deactivate the image and then make the IODF
changes. Once you done the IODF activate with the new partition name,
you'll pickup the new name in the images group for the CPC. You can
now select the image and customize the activation profiles for it
to customize the new image profile. Once you've made the updates
for the iamge, then you can activate it. 

Mark Jacobs 

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I'm anxious for more posts on this topic. We don't yet have a z9, but I
thought that one of the selling points was being able to define 'dummy'
LPARs in advance, then make them 'real' as needed by 'renaming' and
assigning memory, CPs, and I/O connections, all without a POR.

Am I missing something in the z9 or in the original question?

.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
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Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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We happened to try this last week and found out it was not possible.

Kees.

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Re: LPAR Rename

2008-01-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:25:55 -0800, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I'm anxious for more posts on this topic. We don't yet have a z9, but I
thought that one of the selling points was being able to define 'dummy'
LPARs in advance, then make them 'real' as needed by 'renaming' and
assigning memory, CPs, and I/O connections, all without a POR.

Am I missing something in the z9 or in the original question?

.

It's available with a z990 and z/OS 1.6 or above.  But you have to plan.
It involves defining an LPAR with a name of * as a placeholder.

See Defining reserved partitions in the HCD manual(s).  

No, I haven't done it yet.

Mark
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