Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-13 Thread Duane Reaugh
There is a refurbish operation in Raleigh NC. They might give you a buck
or two. Tell Ed,  Duane sent you.

Thanks
Duane Reaugh
DTS Software

Ed Scott
Circle Computers
(919) 954-8752
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to PCs and
expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that time, we wish to
dispose of all our mainframe equipment as described below.

1.  Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 megs,
internal mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, OSA2, Internal
Battery Feature, SN 45361
.

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Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Pfeifer, William
Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to PCs and expects to 
complete it within 3-6 months. After that time, we wish to dispose of all our 
mainframe equipment as described below.

1.  Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 megs, internal 
mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, OSA2, Internal Battery Feature, 
SN 45361
2.  1 3480-A22 tape control unit
3.  6 3480-B22 autoloader tape drives, IDRC, 4.5 channel speed
4.  2 3480-B22 single tape drives, IDRC, 4.5 channel speed
5.  4 3174-1L terminal controllers with features 3103, 1014, 3026
6.  1 3174-11L terminal controller with features 3103, 1014, 3026, 
9010
7.  1 3745-170 front end controller (not in use)
8.  1 4245-20 2000 LPM printer

Everything works fine and is well maintained. I realize it is an obsolete cpu 
capable of running OS/390 2.10 (which it is now) and is not designed to run 
z/OS.

Is anybody interested? Naturally, we would like a few bucks but we would be 
happy if someone will take it away free but handle their own shipping at no 
cost to us. All equipment located in Radnor, PA near Philadelphia.

Or can anyone tell me of a recycler or reseller to take it away? Or any 
thoughts besides using the stuff for boat anchors.

Thanks, Bill



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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Richards.Bob
Bill,

Offer it to Villanova, St. Joes or Delaware County Community College for
an IT curriculum. :-)

Otherwise here is a reseller: Don Oberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob Richards 



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Subject: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to PCs and
expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that time, we wish to
dispose of all our mainframe equipment as described below.

1.  Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 megs,
internal mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, OSA2, Internal
Battery Feature, SN 45361
2.  1 3480-A22 tape control unit
3.  6 3480-B22 autoloader tape drives, IDRC, 4.5 channel
speed
4.  2 3480-B22 single tape drives, IDRC, 4.5 channel speed
5.  4 3174-1L terminal controllers with features 3103, 1014,
3026
6.  1 3174-11L terminal controller with features 3103, 1014,
3026, 9010
7.  1 3745-170 front end controller (not in use)
8.  1 4245-20 2000 LPM printer

Everything works fine and is well maintained. I realize it is an
obsolete cpu capable of running OS/390 2.10 (which it is now) and is not
designed to run z/OS.

Is anybody interested? Naturally, we would like a few bucks but we would
be happy if someone will take it away free but handle their own shipping
at no cost to us. All equipment located in Radnor, PA near Philadelphia.

Or can anyone tell me of a recycler or reseller to take it away? Or any
thoughts besides using the stuff for boat anchors.

Thanks, Bill



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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
 
 Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to 
 PCs and expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that 
 time, we wish to dispose of all our mainframe equipment as 
 described below.

Put it up on e-bay.  Got to be better than just dumping it.

   1.  Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 
 megs, internal mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, 
 OSA2, Internal Battery Feature, SN 45361

Can that machine run in the old 370 mode (non-XA)?  If so, maybe a
Hercules fan might make an offer

[ snip ]

   8.  1 4245-20 2000 LPM printer

Won't fit in my garage  :-)

-jc-

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Pfeifer, William
The System Overview book GA22-7152 says ESA/390 mode which includes the 
functions of ESA/370 mode. So it looks possible.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:36 AM
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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
 
 Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to 
 PCs and expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that 
 time, we wish to dispose of all our mainframe equipment as 
 described below.

Put it up on e-bay.  Got to be better than just dumping it.

   1.  Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 
 megs, internal mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, 
 OSA2, Internal Battery Feature, SN 45361

Can that machine run in the old 370 mode (non-XA)?  If so, maybe a
Hercules fan might make an offer

[ snip ]

   8.  1 4245-20 2000 LPM printer

Won't fit in my garage  :-)

-jc-

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Pfeifer, William
Our company tried this years ago when we had a 370-145 to give away. Too much 
trouble for the schools.

Thanks for Oberg's name. I have contacted him and awaiting a reply.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free


Bill,

Offer it to Villanova, St. Joes or Delaware County Community College for
an IT curriculum. :-)

Otherwise here is a reseller: Don Oberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob Richards 

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
It can surely run Linux... So why not start your own ISP...

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
Sent: 12 July 2006 18:29
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

The System Overview book GA22-7152 says ESA/390 mode which includes the
functions of ESA/370 mode. So it looks possible.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Chase, John
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
 
 Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to 
 PCs and expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that 
 time, we wish to dispose of all our mainframe equipment as 
 described below.

Put it up on e-bay.  Got to be better than just dumping it.

   1.  Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 
 megs, internal mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, 
 OSA2, Internal Battery Feature, SN 45361

Can that machine run in the old 370 mode (non-XA)?  If so, maybe a
Hercules fan might make an offer

[ snip ]

   8.  1 4245-20 2000 LPM printer

Won't fit in my garage  :-)

-jc-

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
 
 The System Overview book GA22-7152 says ESA/390 mode which 
 includes the functions of ESA/370 mode. So it looks possible.

ESA/370 is XA-based.  What I meant was pre-XA.  AFAIK, the free
version of MVS that Hercules afficionados run won't run at all in XA (or
later) mode.

-jc-

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
 
 Our company tried this years ago when we had a 370-145 to 
 give away. Too much trouble for the schools.

But that was a roomful of furniture, compared to a 2-drawer filing
cabinet for the MP.

-jc-

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Tony Harminc
Pfeifer, William wrote:

 Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to 
 PCs and expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that 
 time, we wish to dispose of all our mainframe equipment as 
 described below.
[...]
 Is anybody interested? Naturally, we would like a few bucks 
 but we would be happy if someone will take it away free but 
 handle their own shipping at no cost to us.

I've seen this sort of stuff on eBay quite a number of times. Sometimes it
sells, and sometimes it doesn't, and I haven't figured out any obvious
pattern.

I would guess that your tape drives are worth more than the rest put
together. Certainly SCSI versions of 3480s go for a good buck, but Bus  Tag
I'm not so sure about.

A reseller might take it all off your hands for a fixed price, and that's
worth something, even if you could in theory get more selling the parts. But
the resellers form a strange industry; you'll find if you start Googling on
some of your hardware that there are many resellers claiming to have your
stuff in stock, but in fact they are mostly just copying each other's
listings, typos and all. And eBay has lots of stuff for sale at what seems
like outrageous (if you're a buyer) or excellent (if you're a seller)
prices, but I very much doubt that most of the stuff actually goes for
what's being asked.

Tony H.

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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
If your company is a member of Norex, they have a way to offer for
sale/for free to other member companies.  

Chuck Kreiter
Lead Systems Programmer
State Auto Insurance
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Re: Multiprise 2003-104 Mainframe available free

2006-07-12 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/12/2006 
01:28:31 PM:

  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pfeifer, William
  
  Fidelity Mutual Life is converting from an IBM mainframe to 
  PCs and expects to complete it within 3-6 months. After that 
  time, we wish to dispose of all our mainframe equipment as 
  described below.
 
 Put it up on e-bay.  Got to be better than just dumping it.
 
 1.   Multiprise 2003-104, CMOS processor, memory 512 
  megs, internal mirrored RAID 162 gigs, 18 parallel channels, 
  OSA2, Internal Battery Feature, SN 45361
 
 Can that machine run in the old 370 mode (non-XA)?  If so, maybe a
 Hercules fan might make an offer

  The Multiprise 2003 is based in the G3 processor, which does
support 370 mode.  The G4 processor was the first to drop support 
for 370 mode. 
 
Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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