Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-11-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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on 11/01/2011
   at 04:24 PM, Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com said:

*LOAD  EP=IDCAMS,
*LRR15,R0   ,
*CALL  (15),VGCARGL,VL

One of

LOAD  EP=IDCAMS
LRR15,R0
LAR1,VGCARGL
CALL  (15)

LOAD  EP=IDCAMS
LRR15,R0   
CALL  (15),(VGCOPTA),VL

LINK  EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=VGCOPTA,VL=1

LAR1,VGCARGL
LINK  EP=IDCAMS


 VGCARGL  DS0XL12
 VGCOPTDCAL4(VGCOPTA)
 VGCDDNDCAL4(VGCDDNA)
 VGCPGN   DCAL4(VGCPGNA)

 VGCARGL  DS0A
 VGCOPTDCAL4(VGCOPTA+X'8000')

You don't need anything past the end of list.

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-11-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:12:04 -0400 Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com wrote:

:My intent is to construct a proper SYSIN statement and Call IDCAMS using my
:SYSIN, this I have done.
:After IDCAMS is finished I should have some SYSPRINT which I would massage
:after the call to IDCAMS, ie... not using the IDCAMS user I/O routine
:fcaility.
:At this point I've modified my code to immediately exit upon return from
:IDCAMS, no massaging of SYSPRINT at all.
:As such the SYSPRINT output remains as I described earlier.

If that is what you are doing, i.e., writing the input to a file and then
reading the output from a file, it would make much sense to do this as two
programs, P1 writes the input, IDCAMS runs and P2 reads the output. Why invoke
IDCAMS from a program?

:According to the AMS for ICF catalogs, the LOAD  CALL scenario is:

:LOAD EP=IDCAMS

:then load register 15 with the address returned from LOAD:

:LR  15,0

:Followed by the call:

:CALL  (15),optionaddr,VL

:Because I have specified no IDCAMS processing options, PARM= on the EXEC
:PGM= JCL card.
:The optionaddr points to a half word of binary zeros.

Looks fine.

:Because the 0C4 was happening in IDCAMS I thought I couldn't change IDCAMS
:code.
:So I opted for the LOAD  CALL scenario instead of the LINK, it might work,
:which I initially thought it did, I got around the S0C4.

I would suggest that your plist is wrong. Is optionaddr an address constant
(wrong) or DC H'0' (correct)?

:I have found this in my testing today.
:Initially I used an example of an IDCAMS call from a CBT tape program it
:was simply:

: LAR1,argumentlist (points to binary zeros) .
: LINK  EP=IDCAMS

:Which was the format that initially worked, until the S0C4.

I would suggest that argumentlist is defined incorrectly.

:After a bit of RTFM in the AMS guide, I find this format should be:

: LAR1,VGCARGL

Useless, as the following PARAM= sets R1.

: LINK  EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=options,VL=1 Options pointing to a half word of
:binary zeros.

:Now whether I use this method or the LOAD  CALL method I get my SYSPRINT
:messed up.

:As much as I am trying to avoid the user I/O routine is this the route I
:must take?

I repeat my suggestion that you do this a two programs UNLESS you are going to
use the I/O routines.

:On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
:shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
:
: In
: ca+vt6kp9zp4meyxjrqwkm9hilvdutrcqzonmnx2dwegqrdu...@mail.gmail.com,
: on 10/28/2011
:   at 03:39 PM, Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com said:
:
:  LAR1,ARGLIST
:
: What is in ARGLIST and the things it points at?
:
: I was able to construct SYSIN and get the appropriate SYSPRINT. But
: as the program grew I ran into S0C4 rsn=0011 problems.
:
: Where? Did you try to resolve them?
:
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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS

2011-11-01 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi Joe,

As I understand your problem, you have progressed beyond the S0C4 when
invoking IDCAMS dynamically, but are now faced with the situation that
SYSPRINT does not flow elegantly as you would expect.

If this is the case it may be nothing to do with the calling rogram, but a
problem with the JCL. I spent 30 minutes producing the following code and
JCL to test dynamic invocation of IDCAMS, and SYSPRINT appeared as I had
anticipated it would, i.e. in the same format as when viewed via SDSF,
albeit in a data set now.

Assembler Code - (Not elegant but it was under 30 minutes remember)

 PRINT NOGEN   
KMSASM   CSECT 
 USING *,R15   INITIAL BASE REGISTER   
BEGINB START   
 DCAL1(8),CL8'KMSASM'  PROGRAM NAME FOR DEBUGGING  
*P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N-A-L-L-YD-E-P-E-N-D-A-N-TC-O-D-E--*
SAVEAREA DS0F  MY SAVE AREA   *
 DCAL4(*-*)   *
PRESAVE  DCAL4(*-*)ADDR OF PREVIOUS SAVE AREA *
NEXTSAVE DCAL4(*-*)ADDR OF NEXT SAVE AREA *
SREG14   DCAL4(*-*)GENERAL*
SREG15   DCAL4(*-*)   PURPOSE *
SREG0DC13AL4(*-*)REGISTER SAVE*
SAVEEND  DS0H  END OF MY SAVE AREA*
*-*
 SPACE 1   
 DROP  R15 LOOSE INITAL BASE   
STARTBAKR  14,0STACK REGISTERS ETC 
 LRR12,R15 SET BASE ADDRESS, AND  
 USING BEGIN,R12   TELL THE COMPILER. 
 STR13,SAVEAREA+4  NOW SAVE REGISTER 13 CONTENTS  
 LAR13,SAVEAREAR13 = MY SAVE AREA ADDRESS 
 OPEN  (SYSIN,OUTPUT)  OPEN THE FILES.
 PUT   SYSIN,IDCAMSCC  WRITE MY AMS CONTROL CARD  
 CLOSE (SYSIN) CLOSE SYSIN READY FOR IDCAMS   
 LINK  EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=(AMSOPT),VL=1  
 PRRETURN WHENCE I CAME   
 EJECT
 LTORG
AMSOPT   DCH'0'   
SYSINDCB   MACRF=PM,DDNAME=SYSIN,DSORG=PS,LRECL=80
IDCAMSCC DCCL80' LISTC LVL(ASMMST) '  
 COPY  REGS   
 END  

Invoking JCL

//ADCDMSTJ JOB  CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY=SYSUID
//S0010EXEC PGM=KMSAMS   
//STEPLIB  DD   DSN=USER.LINKLIB,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD   DSN=SYSUID..IDCAMS.SYSPRINT,LRECL=121,RECFM=FBA,
// UNIT=SYSDA,BLKSIZE=1210,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)),
// DISP=(,CATLG) 
//SYSINDD   UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1),BLKSIZE=80,RECFM=F  

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-11-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
ca+vt6kpukk5fengnp-_mzwq7vxany9g-sp0t2ddz8c7hxcw...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/31/2011
   at 03:12 PM, Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com said:

 LAR1,VGCARGL
 LINK  EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=options,VL=1 Options pointing to a half word
of binary zeros.

Why the LA? Look at the macro expansion. Also, PARAM specifies the
parameter list, not the address of the parameter list. If VFCARGL is a
correct parameter list, removed the PARAMS keyword; if not, specify
PARAM as the address of the DC H'0' rather than the address of a DC A
pointing to it.

The same thing goes for CALL, although there it's a positional
parameter.

Now whether I use this method or the LOAD  CALL method I get my
SYSPRINT messed up.

What's in your SYSIN data set?

As much as I am trying to avoid the user I/O routine is this the
route I must take?

I doubt it.
 
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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-11-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1320105062.4229.yahoomailmob...@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on
10/31/2011
   at 04:51 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:

You really need to look. At the IDCAMS book on how to invoke IDCAMS.
From a iffy memory R1 points to a list of DDNAMES like SYSIN1 and
SYSRINT2 but you have to look at the docuetation.

R1 points to a standard parameter list. The first word should point to
a parm string, i.e., halfword length followed by characters. If he
correctly sets the end of list bit then only the first word is
relevant.

Had he wanted the ddname list then he'd have needed a second word in
the parameter list, again with the end-of-list bit set correctly.
 
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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-11-01 Thread Joe Aulph
I see said the blind man.

I probably sohuld have included this at first:

The variations I was working with.

*LOAD  EP=IDCAMS,
*LRR15,R0   ,
*CALL  (15),VGCARGL,VL
*LAR1,VGCARGL   , R1 = IDCAMS ARGUMENT LIST
 LINK  EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=VGCOPTA,VL=1
 B VGCRET   ,
.
.
.
.
 **
   DS0F
 VGCARGL  DS0XL12
 VGCOPTDCAL4(VGCOPTA)
 VGCDDNDCAL4(VGCDDNA)
 VGCPGN   DCAL4(VGCPGNA)
 **
 *DUMMY PARMS FOR IDCAMS.
 **
 VGCOPTA  DCH''  , NO OPTIONS SPECIFIED
 VGCDDNA  DCH''  , NO OVERRIDING DDNAMES
 VGCPGNA  DCH''  , NO PAGE NUMBER SPECIFIED
 **
The LINK (uncomented) now works.

Seymour, as you indicated my LINK was previously using VGCOPT, the address
of the options, not the options specifically.
Once I specified the options directly, VGCOPTA, Voila! It worked,
The SYSPRINT is now as it should be.

Thanks guys.





On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In 1320105062.4229.yahoomailmob...@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on
 10/31/2011
   at 04:51 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:

 You really need to look. At the IDCAMS book on how to invoke IDCAMS.
 From a iffy memory R1 points to a list of DDNAMES like SYSIN1 and
 SYSRINT2 but you have to look at the docuetation.

 R1 points to a standard parameter list. The first word should point to
 a parm string, i.e., halfword length followed by characters. If he
 correctly sets the end of list bit then only the first word is
 relevant.

 Had he wanted the ddname list then he'd have needed a second word in
 the parameter list, again with the end-of-list bit set correctly.

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-31 Thread Joe Aulph
My intent is to construct a proper SYSIN statement and Call IDCAMS using my
SYSIN, this I have done.
After IDCAMS is finished I should have some SYSPRINT which I would massage
after the call to IDCAMS, ie... not using the IDCAMS user I/O routine
fcaility.
At this point I've modified my code to immediately exit upon return from
IDCAMS, no massaging of SYSPRINT at all.
As such the SYSPRINT output remains as I described earlier.

According to the AMS for ICF catalogs, the LOAD  CALL scenario is:

LOAD EP=IDCAMS

then load register 15 with the address returned from LOAD:

LR  15,0

Followed by the call:

CALL  (15),optionaddr,VL

Because I have specified no IDCAMS processing options, PARM= on the EXEC
PGM= JCL card.
The optionaddr points to a half word of binary zeros.


Because the 0C4 was happening in IDCAMS I thought I couldn't change IDCAMS
code.
So I opted for the LOAD  CALL scenario instead of the LINK, it might work,
which I initially thought it did, I got around the S0C4.

I have found this in my testing today.
Initially I used an example of an IDCAMS call from a CBT tape program it
was simply:

 LAR1,argumentlist (points to binary zeros) .
 LINK  EP=IDCAMS

Which was the format that initially worked, until the S0C4.
After a bit of RTFM in the AMS guide, I find this format should be:

 LAR1,VGCARGL
 LINK  EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=options,VL=1 Options pointing to a half word of
binary zeros.

Now whether I use this method or the LOAD  CALL method I get my SYSPRINT
messed up.

As much as I am trying to avoid the user I/O routine is this the route I
must take?




On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In
 ca+vt6kp9zp4meyxjrqwkm9hilvdutrcqzonmnx2dwegqrdu...@mail.gmail.com,
 on 10/28/2011
   at 03:39 PM, Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com said:

  LAR1,ARGLIST

 What is in ARGLIST and the things it points at?

 I was able to construct SYSIN and get the appropriate SYSPRINT. But
 as the program grew I ran into S0C4 rsn=0011 problems.

 Where? Did you try to resolve them?

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-31 Thread Ed Gould
 Joe,

You really need to look. At the IDCAMS book on how to invoke IDCAMS. From a 
iffy memory
R1 points to a list of DDNAMES like SYSIN1 and SYSRINT2 but you have to look at 
the docuetation.

Ed

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-31 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 10/31/2011 12:12 PM, Joe Aulph wrote:

Because the 0C4 was happening in IDCAMS I thought I couldn't change IDCAMS
code.
So I opted for the LOAD  CALL scenario instead of the LINK, it might work,
which I initially thought it did, I got around the S0C4.


In my experience such utilities works much better when ATTACHed rather than 
LINKed or CALLed.


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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-29 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:39:29 -0400 Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com wrote:

:I'm having an issue with calling IDCAMS from within my program and if anyone
:could shed some light on this I'd appreciate it.

:The scenario is like this my program manipulates the SYSIN input to IDCAMS
:and would, post call, manipulate the SYSPRINT output.
:The execution JCL allocates both SYSIN  SYSPRINT.

:Initially I was having good success using the call format: No options
:specified.
: LAR1,ARGLIST
: LINK IDCAMS

   ...nit   EP=  

:I was able to construct SYSIN and get the appropriate SYSPRINT. But as the
:program grew I ran into S0C4 rsn=0011 problems.

Because of  

:After wrestling a bit with that I switched to the LOAD  CALL format:

Why?

: LOAD EP=IDCAMS
: LR R15,R0
: CALL (15),OPTIONS,VL  once again no options specified.

What is OPTIONS? In you previous example it would appear that ARGLIST points
to the option list.

:This worked just fine, getting around the S0C4 problem, except that now the
:SYSPRINT output is a total mess.

:The output is 146 lines of VBA/125 output. Interlaced through out are the
:IDCAMS headders, page numbers, SYSIN commands stuff you'd expect to see.
:But no actual output from the SYSIN commands, everything else is hundreds of
:x'4B', an ocassional other odd character but mostly periods, x'4B' .

Is that based on examining the true sysprint or after it is massaged by your
program?

:The code is not-reentrant, I've done no GETMAIN's, has anyone ever ran into
:this sort of thing? Any help would be appreciated.

Your original 0C4 points to bugs.

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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on 10/28/2011
   at 03:39 PM, Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com said:

 LAR1,ARGLIST

What is in ARGLIST and the things it points at?

I was able to construct SYSIN and get the appropriate SYSPRINT. But
as the program grew I ran into S0C4 rsn=0011 problems.

Where? Did you try to resolve them?
 
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Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-28 Thread Joe Aulph
Hello List,

I'm having an issue with calling IDCAMS from within my program and if anyone
could shed some light on this I'd appreciate it.

The scenario is like this my program manipulates the SYSIN input to IDCAMS
and would, post call, manipulate the SYSPRINT output.
The execution JCL allocates both SYSIN  SYSPRINT.

Initially I was having good success using the call format: No options
specified.
 LAR1,ARGLIST
 LINK IDCAMS
I was able to construct SYSIN and get the appropriate SYSPRINT. But as the
program grew I ran into S0C4 rsn=0011 problems.

After wrestling a bit with that I switched to the LOAD  CALL format:
 LOAD EP=IDCAMS
 LR R15,R0
 CALL (15),OPTIONS,VL  once again no options specified.
This worked just fine, getting around the S0C4 problem, except that now the
SYSPRINT output is a total mess.

The output is 146 lines of VBA/125 output. Interlaced through out are the
IDCAMS headders, page numbers, SYSIN commands stuff you'd expect to see.
But no actual output from the SYSIN commands, everything else is hundreds of
x'4B', an ocassional other odd character but mostly periods, x'4B' .

The code is not-reentrant, I've done no GETMAIN's, has anyone ever ran into
this sort of thing? Any help would be appreciated.

TIA

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Re: Problems calling IDCAMS:

2011-10-28 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 10/28/2011 3:39 PM, Joe Aulph wrote:

The code is not-reentrant, I've done no GETMAIN's, has anyone ever ran into
this sort of thing? Any help would be appreciated.


Your second sample doesn't show you loading R1 after the LOAD. 
If that's not it, then the most likely cause, in my experience, 
is that your program is doing something nasty, perhaps (re)using 
the SYSIN/SYSPRINT data sets, or overwriting storage, or 
shifting to an inappropriate addressing mode. In the case that 
your DD names are also used by the program, you could change 
ARGLIST to include substitute DD names for input and output DDs, 
to see if that changes anything.


As I mentioned yesterday, in assembler it is possible to call 
IDCAMS with a parameter list that enables an input and output 
exit, so you do not need to allocate unneeded SYSIN/SYSPRINT 
data sets. While it takes a little effort to set up the first 
time, it's nice to have in the long run.


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