RES: Hiperbatch revisited

2007-11-09 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Long time since last time i've used Hiperbatch (and problably i'm
missing
something), but i'll try to list some other issues with Hiperbatch :

a)  CI size must be multiple of 4096
b)  Does not work with shroptions 3 or 4 (VSAM)
c)  Only QSAM (No Sort, IEBGENER) and VSAM sequential reading
d)  Dataset can not be opened as I/O (otherwise will be removed from
storage)
e)  If you want to use it with SORT, you can code EXIT15 and EXIT35
using QSAM

It used to work pretty fine (i believe it still does) but you have to
follow the rules...  


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos


Ituriel do Nascimento Neto 
Banco Bradesco S/A 
4254/DPCD Alphaville 
Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes 
Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 


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Enviada em: sexta-feira, 9 de novembro de 2007 16:00
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Assunto: Hiperbatch revisited

Having some fun this week with Hiperbatch. I want to run one of our
largest VSAM clusters as a retained DLF object in RACF during batch run.
Asked Ops to run EXPORT, IMPORT to load into memory and everything
looked fine, so went to bed. Next morning, it turns out that the object
has been purged after being updated by job using BLSR. 

Today I have proven to myself with a very simple Cobol programme that
subsequent use of BLSR will purge a retained object, but I can't see
from the MVS Hiperbatch Guide that this is working as expected :

Retained DLF objects continue to exist after the last user closes the
data set and must be deleted in one of the following ways:
 
*  When the data set is recreated.
*   When the data set is deleted or renamed.
*   When the data set is updated by an access method (such as BSAM) that

does not support Hiperbatch.
*   When the object is explicitly deleted

The data set hasn't been recreated, deleted, renamed or explicitly
deleted (I've tested that), so that just leaves being updated by an
unsupported access method. Using BLSR with VSAM, the access method is
still VSAM, certainly that's what I see in relevant SMF type 64 records.

Granted that it may well not be a good idea to access same cluster using
both BLSR and Hiperbatch and we can easily change our JCL.

Anybody seen this behaviour or have any thoughts ?

many thanks, Alex Tough
Systems Programmer, Express Gifts

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Re: RES: Hiperbatch revisited

2007-11-09 Thread Martin Packer
Another restriction - which might be the most severe of all:


Hiperbatch is not supported for Extended Format Sequential or VSAM. Think 
Striped, Compressed,  4GB.

Martin

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