Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Just set their accounts to NOMAIL.  If they don't receive anything, 
they can't autoreply.

I usually do this myself for longer absences but not for a one or
two days absence.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
I certainly don't want my out-of-office assistant to auto-reply to
Spam, but mine (Outlook 2003) allows me to select which domains get
this reply.

Interessting. We're on Outlook 2003 here, too, but my OoO agent 
doesn't offer exclude lists. Maybe this has been delete by our
Windows support team?? Or, I just haven't found the place this 
is hidden.

Where do you setup the exclusions? It's a bit off topic, I know.
You can respond to me directly, if you like.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Colin Beveridge
 
 Unfortunately, I think this is down to the individuals 
 concerned that want everyone to know that they are out of the Office.
 
 Don't they have Blackberries so that they can always be in the office?

For the kinds of places I like to vacation, the only kind of device that
would have the slightest chance of keeping me connected would be a
satellite phone.  :-)  

They're still rather expensive

-jc-

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2008 23:45:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Hunkeler Peter  , KIUK 3) wrote:

I certainly don't want my out-of-office assistant to auto-reply to
Spam, but mine (Outlook 2003) allows me to select which domains get
this reply.

Interessting. We're on Outlook 2003 here, too, but my OoO agent 
doesn't offer exclude lists. Maybe this has been delete by our
Windows support team?? Or, I just haven't found the place this 
is hidden.

Where do you setup the exclusions? It's a bit off topic, I know.
You can respond to me directly, if you like.

Go to Tools/Out of Office Assistant, and then click on Add Rule. I'm
not seeing how to edit an existing rule (the edit button is grayed
out), but adding a rule seems pretty straightforward.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Go to Tools/Out of Office Assistant, and then click on Add Rule. 
I'm not seeing how to edit an existing rule (the edit button is 
grayed out), but adding a rule seems pretty straightforward.

I've been to that menu but I don't see an option that inhibits the
sending of OoO for certain senders. I can delete, move, forward, etc.
the incoming mail but these seem to be the only options I have.

I've been told that we do not have to activate the OoO agent if 
we have deputy rules in place. So, I'll simply forget about the
OoO agent. Problem solved ;-)

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 30 Jul 2008 07:28:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Hunkeler Peter  , KIUK 3) wrote:

I've been to that menu but I don't see an option that inhibits the
sending of OoO for certain senders. I can delete, move, forward, etc.
the incoming mail but these seem to be the only options I have.

I've been told that we do not have to activate the OoO agent if 
we have deputy rules in place. So, I'll simply forget about the
OoO agent. Problem solved ;-)

Maybe my understanding is wrong.   I set up one rule to reply if it
was from certain senders.   I assumed this meant that it did not reply
to everybody else.   I may be wrong.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-30 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip--


That would be nice. But, from my understanding, since Darren has
retired, the motto is run the listserv as distributed by the vendor,
with no mods.
   



My mod not only filtered these out, but also set the user to NOMAIL.
I was quite proud of it actually! :-)
 


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Might be worthwhile to get it re-installed

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these out of
the office messages we keep getting.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
 
 I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these 
 out of the office messages we keep getting.

Probably not.  I've never received one from the listserv itself; they
always come directly from the absentee, addressed to me.  I doubt the
listserv ever sees them.

-jc-

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2008 06:41:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:

 I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these 
 out of the office messages we keep getting.

Probably not.  I've never received one from the listserv itself; they
always come directly from the absentee, addressed to me.  I doubt the
listserv ever sees them.

Interesting.  I don't get them - but I don't have the listserv send me
e-mail, I read the messages with my newsgroup reader, and reply to the
list server.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: (your name here) is out of the office.
 
 I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these out of
 the office messages we keep getting.

That would be nice. But, from my understanding, since Darren has
retired, the motto is run the listserv as distributed by the vendor,
with no mods.

Most email clients can filter them. Mine can, but apparently only if it
is written in English with specific phrasing.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:40:47 -0500, Chase, John wrote:

 I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these
 out of the office messages we keep getting.

Probably not.  I've never received one from the listserv itself; they
always come directly from the absentee, addressed to me.  I doubt the
listserv ever sees them.

At least some appear in the list archives.  E.g:

   Linkname: AUTO: James Obrizok is out of the office (returning 08/04/2008)
URL: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0807L=ibm-mainamp;P=179259

But take heart.  IBM-MAIN's LISTSERV adds a header:

Precedence: list

I belive well-behaved MTA's do not send autoreplies to messages containing
such.  It seems to be at least partly effective -- ASSEMBLER-LIST
supplies no Precedence: header, and I get several times more OoO
replies from ASSEMBLER-LIST than from IBM-MAIN.

I suppose a harsh list owner would unsubscribe anyone who autoreplies
to the list.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2008 07:11:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

Most email clients can filter them. Mine can, but apparently only if it
is written in English with specific phrasing.

Most people don't want to filter real messages from co-workers who
turn the out of office assistant on.   Just those from external
lists such as this one.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Ian S. Worthington
Anyone who elects to send the dates of their vacation, along with their phone
number and approximate home location to a public list is letting themselves in
for a lot more pain then just the annoyance of their fellow listees.

i

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Subject: Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

 On 29 Jul 2008 07:11:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
 John) wrote:
 
 Most email clients can filter them. Mine can, but apparently only if it
 is written in English with specific phrasing.
 
 Most people don't want to filter real messages from co-workers who
 turn the out of office assistant on.   Just those from external
 lists such as this one.
 
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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 
[ snip ]
 
 I suppose a harsh list owner would unsubscribe anyone who 
 autoreplies to the list.

Just set their accounts to NOMAIL.  If they don't receive anything, they
can't autoreply.

Then when they return, they can ask why they're not getting anything
from the list.  :-)

-jc-

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:40:47 -0500, Chase, John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...  I doubt the listserv ever sees them. ...

At least some of them appear in the Listserver's web archive.  They
wouldn't have gotten there if the Listserver didn't see them.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jul 2008 07:39:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian S.
Worthington) wrote:

Anyone who elects to send the dates of their vacation, along with their phone
number and approximate home location to a public list is letting themselves in
for a lot more pain then just the annoyance of their fellow listees.


Especially a public list that gets copied to newsgroups and is
available on Google Groups:

http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/topics

That is an excellent resource for us, but it does indicate some
thinking should be considered in setting up one's out-of-office
wizard.

I certainly don't want my out-of-office assistant to auto-reply to
Spam, but mine (Outlook 2003) allows me to select which domains get
this reply.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Ken Porowski
From Darren's retirement posting

After 26 years, I will be retiring from The University of Alabama 
effective December 1, 2007.  It has been a wonderfulyeah, whatever. 

Anyhow, how does this affect you, the subscribers? 
It doesn't really. I will still be the list owner slapping your wrists. 

I won't have access to update my list exit with all my secret rules for 
denying your posts, which is why I disabled it recently.  I also won't 
have any say so if the admins in power decide to ditch Listserv or 
some other drastic action. But, we'll see how things work out. 

OK, back to work everybody... 

Darren 

 

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Listserve (at least fairly recent ones) have the ability to apply a
content filter which can (in about 10-20 lines) stop most OOO messages.
The IBM-MAIN listowner for whatever reason has chosen not to install it.

If the listowner wants to get back to me, I would be happy to send him
the filter code with install instructions.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Colin Beveridge
Unfortunately, I think this is down to the individuals concerned that want
everyone to know that they are out of the Office.

Don't they have Blackberries so that they can always be in the office?

Colin

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 I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these out of
 the office messages we keep getting.

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Unfortunately, I think this is down to the individuals concerned that want 
everyone to know that they are out of the Office.

Not always controllable by the individual.
Depends on what the 'expert' admins want to micro-manage.

Don't they have Blackberries so that they can always be in the office?

I had a BlackBerry at my last job.
Just because I did, it did NOT mean I was in the office 7/24!

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Darren Evans-Young
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, McKown, John wrote:


That would be nice. But, from my understanding, since Darren has
retired, the motto is run the listserv as distributed by the vendor,
with no mods.

My mod not only filtered these out, but also set the user to NOMAIL.
I was quite proud of it actually! :-)

Darren

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Re: (your name here) is out of the office.

2008-07-29 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
 

 Unfortunately, I think this is down to the individuals concerned 
 that want everyone to know that they are out of the Office.

Sometimes the employer demands it!
I activate the auto-reply when I'm out for a week or longer.
But I, almost always, also set IBM-MAIN and IBMTCP-L to NOMAIL.

Last time I first activated the out-of-office and then the NOMAIL.
My apologies for any unwanted mails.

OT : Just delete the out-of-office replies...
There are only a few among the many messages here...



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