Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
We've used ESP for 5+ years replacing Jobtrac. It is a great product that, unfortunately, is now owned by CA. Chuck Kreiter Architect I State Auto Insurance Companies www.stateauto.com PO Box 182822, Columbus, OH 43218-2822 Phone: 614.917.5529 Fax: 614.719.0171 State Auto is one of only 12 companies to earn an A+ Rating by AM Best every year since 1954! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of gsg Sent: Fri 9/10/2010 5:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA ESP Workload Automation Does anyone use a CA job scheduler product called ESP Workload Automation? PROS/CONS compared to other job schedulers? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
Hi there, Since there have been no replies on the list I'll have my 5 minutes of product-plugging glory... CA Workload Automation (formerly ESP) is an advanced automation engine capable of managing enterprise workload from a single engine with that ability to immediately trigger processing of business data that is either expected or unexpected. Using advanced sensor technology, it can detect granular business events such as changes to a database, java messages, SAP events, etc. and immediately process that data, without the overhead of preloading the work into the system. With direct reference to points that make us stand out from the competition, this is what I'd say: - Business-event driven, not just event-driven (see previous explanation) - Reduction in defined jobs using inherited dependencies and variable substitution - Pre-production testing to validate definitions and job flow - Simple, English-based definition requiring fewer calendars and less maintenance - Built-in capabilities to simplify configuration and maintenance Please do not hesitate to contact me offline, or your local friendly CA rep, for more information. Thanks. Aurora Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno CA Technologies - MSC Sr. Engineering Services Architect Tel: +44 (0)1753 577 733 Mobile: +44 (0)7768 235 339 aurora.della...@ca.com CA Limited Ditton Park, Riding Court Road, Datchet, SL3 9LL, UK CA Limited is a company registered in England and Wales under company registration number 1282495 with its registered office at the address set out above. VAT number 697904179. http://www.ca.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to! -Original Message- From: gsg [mailto:gsg_...@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 September 2010 22:37 Subject: CA ESP Workload Automation Does anyone use a CA job scheduler product called ESP Workload Automation? PROS/CONS compared to other job schedulers? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:37:04 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone use a CA job scheduler product called ESP Workload Automation? PROS/CONS compared to other job schedulers? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Worked at a company previously that used ESP, before CA bought the product. I found it to be a very user friendly, reliable product. Cybermation, the original developer, was a little player in a big market. We had used another scheduling product that had been bought by CA and was being phased out. Our schedulers tried every scheduling product over a long (9 months I think) time and ESP was the clear winner. I am using Tivoli now and wish we could convert to ESP. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
We have ESP, though I'm not all that familiar with it. If you wish you can send me questions off list and I'd be glad to discuss with those in the know. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
Out of curiosity, what's the issue(s) with Tivoli? I'm familiar with all of CA's and Tivoli's products. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Dover Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 Monday 5:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA ESP Workload Automation On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:37:04 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone use a CA job scheduler product called ESP Workload Automation? PROS/CONS compared to other job schedulers? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Worked at a company previously that used ESP, before CA bought the product. I found it to be a very user friendly, reliable product. Cybermation, the original developer, was a little player in a big market. We had used another scheduling product that had been bought by CA and was being phased out. Our schedulers tried every scheduling product over a long (9 months I think) time and ESP was the clear winner. I am using Tivoli now and wish we could convert to ESP. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
ESP499I ESP RELEASE 5.5 SP2 INITIALIZED, Approaching 2 decades of use from when it was a CyberMation product. **VERY** pleased with the product tho' we're concerned with how it might morph/sunset under CA's ownership. Can't talk about other products since the only comparison was done at initial purchase. However, at that time, the person to become the major user - our Production Control guy - spent 2-4 months of investigation. I recall him specifically mentioning zeke, zak, CA-7(?) among others that were deemed lesser than ESP. [then] In fact, it would take major effort to replace it in our environment since it's become ubiquitous. Besides the initial user, Operations, Systems, DBAs all run their tasks with it and there are also a number of users that support their applications with it. I have an application designed to span more than a week which stops the running job at a specific time of day and re-subs it on the next day. Tho' it's not used anymore, I had another multi-day application that allowed vault tapes time to return to the data centre for amalgamation and later return. I even have an application that will cycle - daily - a group of back-end services (singly threaded) such that only half are stopped at any point in time. I understand that it now provides functionality (we don't have/use it) to extend the automation to other hosts (*nix, Linux, win, AS/400) using z/OS as the central management hub. -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How *do* you plan for something like that? Guardian Bob, Reboot For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent John Norgauer 2004 -Original Message- From: gsg [mailto:gsg...@yah..com] Sent: September 10, 2010 17:37 Subject: CA ESP Workload Automation Does anyone use a CA job scheduler product called ESP Workload Automation? PROS/CONS compared to other job schedulers? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA ESP Workload Automation
I second Neil on his comments. i have had the pleasurable experience of working/migrating and supporting ESP for quite a while now and found it to be absolutely Delightful. The features and controls have been quite streamlined for different Support groups which can be monitored/audited as per will and easy use...not to out mention, the GUIs specially helps the Prod control guys with minimum training as its quite elaborate and easy use. Also to appreciate its robust Cross platform integration under one umbrella management! Cheers, Amit On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Neil Duffee nduf...@uottawa.ca wrote: ESP499I ESP RELEASE 5.5 SP2 INITIALIZED, Approaching 2 decades of use from when it was a CyberMation product. **VERY** pleased with the product tho' we're concerned with how it might morph/sunset under CA's ownership. Can't talk about other products since the only comparison was done at initial purchase. However, at that time, the person to become the major user - our Production Control guy - spent 2-4 months of investigation. I recall him specifically mentioning zeke, zak, CA-7(?) among others that were deemed lesser than ESP. [then] In fact, it would take major effort to replace it in our environment since it's become ubiquitous. Besides the initial user, Operations, Systems, DBAs all run their tasks with it and there are also a number of users that support their applications with it. I have an application designed to span more than a week which stops the running job at a specific time of day and re-subs it on the next day. Tho' it's not used anymore, I had another multi-day application that allowed vault tapes time to return to the data centre for amalgamation and later return. I even have an application that will cycle - daily - a group of back-end services (singly threaded) such that only half are stopped at any point in time. I understand that it now provides functionality (we don't have/use it) to extend the automation to other hosts (*nix, Linux, win, AS/400) using z/OS as the central management hub. -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How *do* you plan for something like that? Guardian Bob, Reboot For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent John Norgauer 2004 -Original Message- From: gsg [mailto:gsg...@yah..com] Sent: September 10, 2010 17:37 Subject: CA ESP Workload Automation Does anyone use a CA job scheduler product called ESP Workload Automation? PROS/CONS compared to other job schedulers? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
