Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Brian, that was a very timely heads up!  :-)

Dave 



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Subject: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

IF 

you have JBB77S2 (z/OS 1.6) or JBB772S (z/OS 1.7) zIIP Web Deliverable
installed,

AND

if you have crypto, 

THEN

you WILL want the fix for OA17104.

Without OA17104's fix, when you shut down your ICSF started task,
apparently z/OS dispatching queue damage occurs resulting in a spin
loop.

This APAR has yet to hit the ZOSV1R7 BCPZIIP PSP Bucket.




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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread John Eells

Brian Peterson wrote:
snip

Without OA17104's fix, when you shut down your ICSF started task, apparently
z/OS dispatching queue damage occurs resulting in a spin loop.

This APAR has yet to hit the ZOSV1R7 BCPZIIP PSP Bucket.

snip

Not sure what time it was added, but it's in the bucket now. 
Also, I'll note that OA17104 is marked HIPER.


(The PTFs didn't close until 1229 yesterday afternoon, and the 
change team likely sent the update for the PSP to Boulder 
somewhat later than that.  Ya gotta give the guys in Boulder that 
maintain the PSPs a *little* time...!)


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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/3/2006 7:57:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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somewhat  later than that.  Ya gotta give the guys in Boulder that 
maintain the  PSPs a *little* time...!)





Or a faster processor???

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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Edward Jaffe

Brian Peterson wrote:
IF 


you have JBB77S2 (z/OS 1.6) or JBB772S (z/OS 1.7) zIIP Web Deliverable
installed,

AND

if you have crypto, 


THEN

you WILL want the fix for OA17104.

Without OA17104's fix, when you shut down your ICSF started task, apparently
z/OS dispatching queue damage occurs resulting in a spin loop.

This APAR has yet to hit the ZOSV1R7 BCPZIIP PSP Bucket.
  


Do you have an IBM information that calls you when something like this 
becomes available, or are you actually experiencing these issues? Why 
would you install zIIP support if you don't have a zIIP processor?


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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread John Eells

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In a message dated 8/3/2006 7:57:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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somewhat  later than that.  Ya gotta give the guys in Boulder that 
maintain the  PSPs a *little* time...!)



Or a faster processor???


snip

Well, we're a bit reluctant to turn up the clock speed.  We'd 
have to pay them more per hour that way.


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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Edward Jaffe wrote: 
Do you have an IBM information that calls you when something like this 
becomes available, or are you actually experiencing these issues? Why 
would you install zIIP support if you don't have a zIIP processor?


Typing too fast. I meant to ask, Do you have an IBM _informant_ that 
calls you when ...


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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:43:09 -0700, Edward Jaffe
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Edward Jaffe wrote:
 Do you have an IBM information that calls you when something like this
 becomes available, or are you actually experiencing these issues? Why
 would you install zIIP support if you don't have a zIIP processor?

Typing too fast. I meant to ask, Do you have an IBM _informant_ that
calls you when ...


In our case, sometimes it's our SE that gets notification (can't tell you
how that process works) and lets us know about things like this prior to 
us finding out from current HOLDDATA  SMP/E Reports, Red Alerts, or
the grape vine AKA IBM-MAIN.  :-)

One might install zIIP support even if they don't have a zIIP
processor if they were planning on getting one.  Also, the zIIP 
might only be on a couple of LPARs but by virtue of sharing the
sysres, the code would be on all the LPARs. 

In our case, we have the code and have LPARs running CSF that don't
or won't have zIIPs. 

Mark
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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Ray Mullins
For PROJECTCPU - to see how much you can actually save if you had a zIIP
lying around...

(Although we just got a zIIP and a zAAP to see how our products fare on it.
My stuff's working.  :-)

Later,
Ray 

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Brian Peterson wrote:
 IF

 you have JBB77S2 (z/OS 1.6) or JBB772S (z/OS 1.7) zIIP Web Deliverable 
 installed,

 AND

 if you have crypto,

 THEN

 you WILL want the fix for OA17104.

 Without OA17104's fix, when you shut down your ICSF started task, 
 apparently z/OS dispatching queue damage occurs resulting in a spin loop.

 This APAR has yet to hit the ZOSV1R7 BCPZIIP PSP Bucket.
   

Do you have an IBM information that calls you when something like this
becomes available, or are you actually experiencing these issues? Why would
you install zIIP support if you don't have a zIIP processor?

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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/3/2006 8:40:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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becomes  available, or are you actually experiencing these issues? Why 
would you  install zIIP support if you don't have a zIIP  processor?




Lacking Plug 'n Play what choices are there? Install zIIP without  requisites 
or install requisites and then the zIIP. For new hardware I've always  chosen 
they latter except where ACTion or EC HOLDs specify  otherwise.

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Re: Heads Up: OA17104 if you have zIIP support installed

2006-08-03 Thread Brian Peterson
JBB772S is GA and the APARs are all available for viewing in IBMLink.

I think that there are IBMers circling the globe suggesting that customers 
install the zIIP Web Deliverable, because the Web Deliverable - even on a 
non-zIIP machine - delivers the *instrumentation* necessary to determine 
the potential value of a zIIP in a given customer environment.

That's not to say I don't have any friendsI'd like to think I do!

Brian

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:40:02 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

Do you have an IBM information that calls you when something like this
becomes available, or are you actually experiencing these issues? Why
would you install zIIP support if you don't have a zIIP processor?

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