Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Phil Payne wrote:


I'm surprised that the first referencable account appears almost three months 
after FCS and is
ostensibly (Computerworld) only a two-way in a range that supposedly includes a 
54-way.

Nothing better to be proud of?

I've heard rumours about catastrophic z9 acceptance, but this is even more 
extreme.
 



The 54-way machines were originally supposed to appear in a later 
deliverable. But, so many customers wanted/needed this capability that 
they successfully pressured IBM to move up production of those machines. 
According to what I heard last week, IBM sold every one they made and 
there is still a considerable backlog.


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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Froberg, David C
Pretty innovative how the handled the COBOL programmer issue:

'But what about the COBOL programmer shortage IBM is predicting?  
We've skirted the issue by doing all of our COBOL in India where there
is virtually an unlimited supply. I can call and have 100 COBOL
programmers working on a project tomorrow. There's no bottleneck, Homa
said.'  
 
Dave

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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread R.S.

Froberg, David C wrote:


Pretty innovative how the handled the COBOL programmer issue:

'But what about the COBOL programmer shortage IBM is predicting?  
We've skirted the issue by doing all of our COBOL in India where there

is virtually an unlimited supply. I can call and have 100 COBOL
programmers working on a project tomorrow. There's no bottleneck, Homa
said.'  


Effective.

They really can have 100 COBOL programmers on demand (IBM's watchword). 
Maybe poorly educated but well-motivated and less-paid.
That's why more nad more IT businesses are in India. And some in Poland. 
And probably in Ukraine, Czech, etc.



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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
I'm surprised that the first referencable account appears almost three 
months after FCS and is
ostensibly (Computerworld) only a two-way in a range that supposedly 
includes a 54-way.
Nothing better to be proud of?

Have no idea. Maybe we'll find out together in mid-January from Mark 
Loughridge.

Actually, I'm glad IBM decided to focus on an SMB customer's needs and 
concerns in that press release (in this case a regional grocer). I thought 
that was pretty cool, in fact.

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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-07 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Froberg, David C
 
 Pretty innovative how the handled the COBOL programmer issue:
 
 'But what about the COBOL programmer shortage IBM is predicting?  
 We've skirted the issue by doing all of our COBOL in India 
 where there is virtually an unlimited supply. I can call and 
 have 100 COBOL programmers working on a project tomorrow. 
 There's no bottleneck, Homa said.'  

Hmmm  How many cooks does it take to boil 100 eggs?  :-)

-jc-

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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-06 Thread Jon Brock
Another mention of the Hannaford system is here:
http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,106776,00.html?source=NLT_AMnid=106776

(Mind the wrap.  http://tinyurl.com/anju3 should work temporarily for those of 
you who have trouble with the wrap.)




From the article:
The z9 can process 1 billion transactions per day, more than double the 
transaction processing capability of the zSeries z990, which Hannaford also 
uses. Homa said IBM also made architectural changes to the z9 that improve its 
ability to pull data from its database by about 30%.

Color me impressed.

Also from the article:
Rapid processing capability is critical to his wireless users, but what Homa 
likes about the z9 is its scalability; he's using only two processors on a 
system that can support 64. This machine is doing more work than [the] other 
500 servers in the data center put together, he said.



Jon

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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-06 Thread Richards.Bob
I know of numerous 10,000+ MIPS z9 accounts, but I'll let those shops speak up 
for themselves should they so choose. 

Bob Richards
VP, Enterprise Technologist
Enterprise Technology Infrastructure
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
(404) 575-2798 

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Subject:IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

I'm surprised that the first referencable account appears almost three months 
after FCS and is
ostensibly (Computerworld) only a two-way in a range that supposedly includes a 
54-way.

Nothing better to be proud of?

I've heard rumours about catastrophic z9 acceptance, but this is even more 
extreme.

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Re: IBM Press Release: Hannaford Brothers Is Live on System z9

2005-12-06 Thread Marian Gasparovic
There were also 54 way machines shipped, also some (not 54 way) Linux only
ones, but until it is  official reference

marian

On 12/7/05, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know of numerous 10,000+ MIPS z9 accounts, but I'll let those shops
 speak up for themselves should they so choose.

 Bob Richards
 VP, Enterprise Technologist
 Enterprise Technology Infrastructure
 SunTrust Banks, Inc.
 (404) 575-2798



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