Re: Is it possible to put 2 subnets on 1 phy osa card

2009-10-21 Thread Hadaway, John
As usual it depends on how you are set up now...one Physical OSA card
has two ports...you could
could segregate the two subnets by port...lots of things like QDIO or
Passthru and what applications
use what...load balancing turned on in your IP stack etc etc...there are
some very good OSA redbooks
out there.

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Subject: Is it possible to put 2 subnets on 1 phy osa card

A discussion has come up to move the mainframe off the old  network to
another.The network people said they could do a vlan segment off of
thier
switch and this would allow traffic to flow from either
network a or network b to our osa port .
The question then came up to see if we could tell out IP stack which
port to
speak on/to.
Is this possible?
What manual would I need to look into if so?
thanks
Mace

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Re: Is it possible to put 2 subnets on 1 phy osa card

2009-10-21 Thread Hal Merritt
I seem to recall a 'Hot Topic' about this a while back. Try that resource. 

To answer your question: yes, it is possible. With static routing, you specify 
which adapter to use for outbound to various IP address(es). With dynamic 
routing, the first hop router supplies the list of address ranges.

Even more fun is VIPA.   

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Subject: Is it possible to put 2 subnets on 1 phy osa card

A discussion has come up to move the mainframe off the old  network to
another.The network people said they could do a vlan segment off of thier
switch and this would allow traffic to flow from either
network a or network b to our osa port .
The question then came up to see if we could tell out IP stack which port to
speak on/to.
Is this possible?
What manual would I need to look into if so?
thanks
Mace

 
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Re: Is it possible to put 2 subnets on 1 phy osa card

2009-10-21 Thread Chris Mason
Larry

The best forum for this topic is the IBMTCP-L list:

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You will be able to find folk there who have done something similar to what 
you want to do.

Configuring a single OSA feature port logically to belong to 2 VLANs is 
possible 
and, if your network infrastructure folk see this as a good migration option, 
you should consider using it.

The issue of out (presumably our) IP stack which port to speak *on* then 
is a non-issue since, logically, there are two interfaces, one logically 
connected to each VLAN.

The issue of out (presumably our) IP stack which port to speak *to* then 
is also a non-issue since, logically, there are two interfaces and, as always, 
the direction of outbound traffic depends on your routing table, whether built 
statically or dynamically.

 Is this possible?

Yes.

 What manual would I need to look into if so?

The obvious ones and one perhaps not so obvious might be helpful.

The obvious ones are the following:

- z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Guide
- z/OS Communications Server IP Configuration Reference
- OSA-Express Customer's Guide and Reference
- OSA-Express Implementation Guide (a redbook[1])

The not so obvious one is the following:

- Linux on IBM zSeries and S390 VSWITCH and VLAN Features of zVM 4.4 (a 
redpaper)

The redpaper happens to contain a very good introduction to what VLANs are 
all about in case you might lack this education.

Chris Mason

[1] Only the one redbook actually despite John Hadaway's contention that 
there are many! Of course, there is also an OSA-ICC redbook but that is 
irrelevant in the current context. And, I actually checked. There are only two 
other redsomethings with OSA in the title and these are short, irrelevant or 
both and date from 2002.

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:02:18 -0400, larry macioce 
mace1...@gmail.com wrote:

A discussion has come up to move the mainframe off the old  network to
another.The network people said they could do a vlan segment off of thier
switch and this would allow traffic to flow from either
network a or network b to our osa port .
The question then came up to see if we could tell out IP stack which port to
speak on/to.
Is this possible?
What manual would I need to look into if so?
thanks
Mace

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