Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-30 Thread andy corpes
Hi Hal

What happens when you try to use the batch jobs? Does anything actually get
submitted?  are you able to build interactively under TSO? We use SCLM
extensively for many different things, and we use the batch interface for
all of our builds and promotions.

We've also used rexx for language processors and exits, we also use rexx to
launch SCLM commands from custom built interfaces.

The starting point for batch processing is to locate and customise the FLMB$
skeleton for the builds, and the FLMP$ skeleton for the promote, these
should be in your base ISPF ISPSSLIB library:-

DSLISTISP.SISPSLIB
Command ===
   Name Prompt   Size   Cr
_ FLMB$
_ FLMCLIST
_ FLMCQSKB
_ FLMCQSKI
_ FLMCQSKP
_ FLMDCSM$
_ FLMDG$
_ FLMDSU$
_ FLMLIBS
_ FLMP$


However, this is not the starting point with SCLM, before you can run
anything you need to code (clone?) and assemble, your project and language
definitions, have you done this yet?, if not, reply and i''ll send you some
basic examples.

To give you an idea, here is a section of one of language definitions,
used to call a REXX program:-

VIEW   EPOLMS.PROJDEFS.SOURCE(JCLCNTL) - 01.00 Columns 1
00072
Command ===  Scroll ===
CSR
63 *
64  FLMTRNSL   CALLNAM='JCLCNTL
SACOPY03',C
65
FUNCTN=BUILD,   C
66
COMPILE=SELECT, C
67
CALLMETH=ISPLNK,C
68
DSNAME=EPOLMX.LIVE.EXEC,C
69
VERSION=V1.0,   C
70
OPTFLAG=N,  C
71OPTIONS='CMD(SACOPY03 @@FLMPRJ @@FLMGRP
@@FLMTYPC
72
@@FLMMBR)', C
73
GOODRC=0,   C
74PORDER=1
75 *
76
*--
77 * SOURCE CODE
78 * ---
79FLMALLOC  IOTYPE=A,DDNAME=SYSUT501
80  FLMCPYLB @@FLMDSN
81 *
82
*--
83 * ALLOCATE THE SYSPRINT DD
84 *
85FLMALLOC
IOTYPE=W,RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133, C
86RECNUM=5,PRINT=N,DDNAME=SYSLST
87 *
88 *--


You could say the FLMTRNSL macro equates to an EXEC statement, and the
FLMALLOC/FLMCPYLB macro's equate to a DD statement.


Andy

p.s I also recommend the yahoo SCLM group

2008/7/29 Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes
 running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not
 support REXX.



 Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes?



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Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-29 Thread David Wilson
I have implemented them in REXX. I don't have the code with me right now,
but I can send you some samples off list tonight, if you like.

Regards,
Dave

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We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes
running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not
support REXX. 

 

Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch  processes?



Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs  are setup it ought to do the 
trick.
 
 
2.2.10 Batch Processing

The Verify Batch Job Information panel shown in _Figure  110_ 
(http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzsc40/2.2.10?SHELF=ISPZPM40DT=
20050711210936#FIGFJOBCD)  is the standard panel for the SCLM functions that 
allow you to select  batch processing. When you enter SUBMIT and when the JOB 
statement is not on  the submittal panel, this panel appears. SCLM requires 
JCL job statements when  you process in batch mode.  
Note: SCLM can automatically generate unique jobnames. If you use  the 
jobname USERIDx, where x is a letter of the alphabet or a digit,  SCLM 
increments 
this letter or number by one for the next job. For example, if  your USERID is 
SMITH, and your jobcard is submitted with the jobname  SMITH3, the jobname is 
updated to SMITH4.  




(http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzsc40/picture-46?mode=zoom)
   





   Figure 110. Verify Batch Job Information (FLMDSU#P)









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Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
Please!!

And a virtual beverage of your choice for your kindness.

Hmerritt circled 'a' jackhenry spot com

Thanks!!

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I have implemented them in REXX. I don't have the code with me right
now,
but I can send you some samples off list tonight, if you like.

Regards,
Dave

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Subject: SCLM in btch

We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes
running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not
support REXX. 

 

Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
The basic setup is the missing piece. SCLM does not come with any
usable/working samples. In fact, we use only the very basics because we
could not get any of the compiles, etc working. 

The programmer (yes, 'the' programmer) used some sort of interactive
command for his C++ we could not replicate. 

   

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In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch  processes?



Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs  are setup it ought to do
the 
trick.
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Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-29 Thread David Wilson
You can get excellent help from the SCLM group on Yahoo groups. You can sign
up at http://groups.yahoo.com

Regards,
Dave


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The basic setup is the missing piece. SCLM does not come with any
usable/working samples. In fact, we use only the very basics because we
could not get any of the compiles, etc working. 

The programmer (yes, 'the' programmer) used some sort of interactive
command for his C++ we could not replicate. 

   

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch  processes?



Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs  are setup it ought to do
the 
trick.
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Re: SCLM in btch

2008-07-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
You may find the new(ish) redbook, Getting Started with SCLM (SG24-7392)
very helpful. There are also some sample programs you can download. Here's
the link to the redbook:

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247392.html

Be sure to click on the Additional Material link to get access to the
samples.

Hope that helps.

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