Re: Sarbanes-Oxley

2006-05-01 Thread Charles Mills
Badly OT but yes, Enron (apparently) violated then-existing laws. How
passing additional laws will help is beyond many experts. Some people will
always violate the law. Passing additional laws won't stop them.

Charles



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In a recent public radio news discussion about the ongoing Enron criminal 
trials, the question was posed: if Enron were in business today, how would 
the company measure up against the SOX standard? This whole agony and 

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Re: Sarbanes-Oxley

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Mason
Charles,

How about passing laws which allow scrutiny of an enterprise's operation
much more easily that is currently allowed? That could so increase the
deterrent effect that less law-breaking resulted. So by passing such laws
some of them will be stopped. Historically over the twentieth century,
isn't this what has happened?

Chris Mason

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 Badly OT but yes, Enron (apparently) violated then-existing laws. How
 passing additional laws will help is beyond many experts. Some people will
 always violate the law. Passing additional laws won't stop them.

 Charles



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Re: Sarbanes-Oxley

2006-04-30 Thread Skip Robinson
In a recent public radio news discussion about the ongoing Enron criminal 
trials, the question was posed: if Enron were in business today, how would 
the company measure up against the SOX standard? This whole agony and 
ecstasy was conjured up, after all, to prevent another Enron catastrophe. 
The answer was that, although hypothetical and conjectural, Enron would 
likely rank in the TOP HALF of all U.S. companies. 

So much for due diligence. 

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http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article360919.ece

Tough, post-Enron company rules in the US may have to be relaxed to stem 
a flow of listings
from New York to London, an American diplomat said yesterday.

Rushed through in 2002, following a wave of corporate scandals, the 
controversial
Sarbanes-Oxley legislation lays down tough accounting rules designed to 
ensure that public
companies make fuller disclosure of their financial position.

It prompted an angry reaction from this side of the Atlantic because 
European companies that
are listed in the US are affected even if they comply with their own 
domestic requirements.

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