Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread Knutson, Sam
Is RMF Magic From IntelliMagic the one you are already looking at?

http://www.intellimagic.nl/page30b4.html

Thanks, Sam


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We're considering the possibility of sending SMF offsite to a vendor 
who
produces graphs for management. 

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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread Kevin Clark
Alan, 

You may want to contact MXG (Barry Merrill)  or Chuck H.  Got to www.mxg.com  
they may have some ideas.

Kevin


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> We're considering the possibility of sending SMF offsite to a vendor 
> who 
> produces graphs for management. It doesn't matter if they are physical 
> graphs 
> or whether they are made available online via a web page. 
> 
> Aside from IBM, can anyone provide some additional names of vendors who 
> provide this service. 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
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> Alan Schwartz 
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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Alan,

Are you interested in RMF measurment data being graphed for
management?

Lance J.


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>Hi,
>
>We're considering the possibility of sending SMF offsite
to a vendor 
>who
>produces graphs for management.  It doesn't matter if they
are physical 
>graphs
>or whether they are made available online via a web page.
>
>Aside from IBM, can anyone provide some additional names of
vendors who
>provide this service.
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
>Alan Schwartz
>Assurant Shared Business Services
>Lead Systems Programmer
>Phone:  651-361-4758
>Fax:   651-361-5625
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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread Alan Schwartz
Lance and Sam (for an earlier reply)

For our own purposes we have two people doing Performance Management and 
two doing Capacity Planning (they all work closely together and are 
overworked).  We also happen to be in the midst of a general performance 
study being done by a respected consultant.  In the analysis the 
consultant makes a statement indicating our dasd farm in performing 
poorly.  We will be getting details later on but this statement made us 
wonder if spending some money to get regular and accurate charts might be 
helpful. 

We may not take this route at all but it doesn't hurt to get some 
references early in the process.

Thanks to both of you (and any others that may respond later)

Alan



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Alan,

Are you interested in RMF measurment data being graphed for
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Lance J.


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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Alan,

Given that you already have a staff it seems like you might want to consider
investing in SAS http://www.sas.com 
on a PC with MXG http://www.mxg.com and let them produce the charts in house
and give them a powerful toolbox to do analysis of DASD and other
performance metrics in addition to just creating charts.

Best Regards,

Sam Knutson, GEICO
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Lance and Sam (for an earlier reply)

For our own purposes we have two people doing Performance Management and 
two doing Capacity Planning (they all work closely together and are 
overworked).  We also happen to be in the midst of a general performance 
study being done by a respected consultant.  In the analysis the 
consultant makes a statement indicating our dasd farm in performing 
poorly.  We will be getting details later on but this statement made us 
wonder if spending some money to get regular and accurate charts might be 
helpful. 

We may not take this route at all but it doesn't hurt to get some 
references early in the process.

Thanks to both of you (and any others that may respond later)

Alan

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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread McKown, John
I am likely confused. The person wants to send some data out-of-house and get 
back some graphs? In what form? Transparencies? GIF files? PNG files? A 
presentation? 

What I am considering is looking a porting GNUPlot from Linux to z/OS UNIX 
System Services. I just haven't had time (or inclination). Our DASD person is 
really "pumped" on SASGraph, but the bloody thing is super expensive. And he 
doesn't want to use SAS on a PC somewhere (for whatever reason, maybe because 
it would take it outside his control?).

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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread mark . van-der-eynden
On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:43:31 -0500, McKown, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What I am considering is looking a porting GNUPlot from Linux to z/OS UNIX
System Services. I just haven't had time (or inclination). Our DASD person
is really "pumped" on SASGraph, but the bloody thing is super expensive.
And he doesn't want to use SAS on a PC somewhere (for whatever reason,
maybe because it would take it outside his control?).

John, and Alan,

If you've got SAS, you can easily create CSV files that you put into Excel
to produce graphs. It's not that difficult (especialy for someone who can
handle SASGraph) to create Excel macros and automate the entire process.
(i.e. batch job on MF creates and FTPs CSV data to PC that runs Excel
Macros to create graph and Emails graphs to interested person).

You can also automate it pretty much the same if you run SAS on your PC
and not the mainframe.

Cheers,

Mark

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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-06-01 Thread Mark Vitale
ISM (www.perfman.com) provides this service.

Obligatory disclaimer - I work for ISM.

Mark Vitale 
Senior Software Engineer
Telephone 610.865.0300 (ext. 126) 

ISM - The power behind great IT decisions
Visit us at www.perfman.com 



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> Aside from IBM, can anyone provide some additional names of 
> vendors who
> provide this service.
> 
> 

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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-06-01 Thread Thomas Kern
At one time, I was exporting data from a VM monitor and sending it to a
PC for manipulation by GNUPlot and ImageMagic to produce JPGs of the
the system utilization data. The JPGs were retrieved from the PC for
display by a webbrowser. That PC was running Windows (I had not started
working with Linux yet). If I had to do it again, I would use a Linux
based system to create the graphics but keep the same basic automation
setup. If you have a spare PC lying around or a Linux/390 server in
another LPAR, it would not be too hard to do.

/Tom Kern

--- "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am likely confused. The person wants to send some data out-of-house
> and get back some graphs? In what form? Transparencies? GIF files?
> PNG files? A presentation? 
> 
> What I am considering is looking a porting GNUPlot from Linux to z/OS
> UNIX System Services. I just haven't had time (or inclination). Our
> DASD person is really "pumped" on SASGraph, but the bloody thing is
> super expensive. And he doesn't want to use SAS on a PC somewhere
> (for whatever reason, maybe because it would take it outside his
> control?).
> 




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Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-06-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/31/2005 11:14:54 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If  you've got SAS, you can easily create CSV files that you put into Excel
to  produce graphs. It's not that difficult (especialy for someone who  can
handle SASGraph) to create Excel macros and automate the entire  process.
(i.e. batch job on MF creates and FTPs CSV data to PC that runs  Excel
Macros to create graph and Emails graphs to interested  person).

You can also automate it pretty much the same if you run SAS  on your PC
and not the mainframe.




>>
Or use RMFPP(EXCEL macros) to make it pretty. Probably harder to
automate.

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