Re: TCP/IP anomality

2005-06-30 Thread Craig Kittendorf
I may not answer your question, but I can show you what we have with three
OSA-2 cards:

HOME
 xxx.yyy.225.131 VIPA1
 xxx.yyy.225.2   OSA4
 xxx.yyy.225.3   OSA5
 xxx.yyy.225.4   OSA6
BEGINRoutes
  ROUTE xxx.yyy.225.0 255.255.255.0  =   OSA4  MTU 1500
  ROUTE xxx.yyy.225.0 255.255.255.0  =   OSA5  MTU 1500
  ROUTE xxx.yyy.225.0 255.255.255.0  =   OSA6  MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT xxx.yyy.225.1  OSA4  MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT xxx.yyy.225.1  OSA5  MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT xxx.yyy.225.1  OSA6  MTU 1500
ENDRoutes

I also specify SourceVIPA.

Don't know if that helps,
   Craig

-Original Message-
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Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: TCP/IP anomality

Good Morning, 

Our MF is equipped with two OSA cards. The following devices are
defined: Vipa, card1 and card2. The Beginroutes statement defines some
static routes, all of them, except one, uses card2. The default route is
also pointing to card2. There is one route statement that defines a
static route to card1. MVS is 1.4. 

The abnormality is that if card2 is defined under the vipa, it is not
accessed and traceroute shows that tcp/ip does know the route to the
device (tries 1*, 2* etc). If this card is removed from the VIPA, placed
before, TCPIP access the device. We started to implement VIPA and we
have a mixed environment where some connections use the VIPA address and
some uses card2 address. We plan to fully implement VIPA, but until then
want to solve that behavior. 

I hope I explained myself... Any idea what happens, and why? 

Thanks for your help. 

Itschak 

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Re: TCP/IP anomality

2005-06-30 Thread Hal Merritt
Something to consider that inbound and outbound traffic are two
completely different things. There is no concept of a 'session'. 

Here is my understanding:  

VIPA only sets an address for inbound traffic. As a logical entity, it
is not tied to any physical device. Packets addressed to the VIPA IP
address will be accepted from anywhere. 

Outbound traffic requires some sort of routing statement which includes
the physical device to use. VIPA is not relevant in this direction. 

I don't understand your statement '... card2 is defined under the vipa
...'. 

Of course, my understanding may be flawed. 

HTH and good luck.  

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: TCP/IP anomality

Good Morning, 

Our MF is equipped with two OSA cards. The following devices are
defined: Vipa, card1 and card2. The Beginroutes statement defines some
static routes, all of them, except one, uses card2. The default route is
also pointing to card2. There is one route statement that defines a
static route to card1. MVS is 1.4. 

The abnormality is that if card2 is defined under the vipa, it is not
accessed and traceroute shows that tcp/ip does know the route to the
device (tries 1*, 2* etc). If this card is removed from the VIPA, placed
before, TCPIP access the device. We started to implement VIPA and we
have a mixed environment where some connections use the VIPA address and
some uses card2 address. We plan to fully implement VIPA, but until then
want to solve that behavior. 

I hope I explained myself... Any idea what happens, and why? 

Thanks for your help. 

Itschak 

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Re: TCP/IP anomality

2005-06-30 Thread Hal Merritt
Interesting. I keep running across this statement in the IP doc:

Only one default route to a destination gateway or router can be
specified.

Confusing. So many options. So few brain cells.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Craig Kittendorf
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TCP/IP anomality

I may not answer your question, but I can show you what we have with
three
OSA-2 cards:

HOME
 xxx.yyy.225.131 VIPA1
 xxx.yyy.225.2   OSA4
 xxx.yyy.225.3   OSA5
 xxx.yyy.225.4   OSA6
BEGINRoutes
  ROUTE xxx.yyy.225.0 255.255.255.0  =   OSA4  MTU 1500
  ROUTE xxx.yyy.225.0 255.255.255.0  =   OSA5  MTU 1500
  ROUTE xxx.yyy.225.0 255.255.255.0  =   OSA6  MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT xxx.yyy.225.1  OSA4  MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT xxx.yyy.225.1  OSA5  MTU 1500
ROUTE DEFAULT xxx.yyy.225.1  OSA6  MTU 1500
ENDRoutes

I also specify SourceVIPA.

Don't know if that helps,
   Craig

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