Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-19 Thread Mark H. Young
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:47:51 -0400, Bruce Black 
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 FATS/FATAR is your answer.  Bruce can elaborate on FATS/FATAR.  He is 
the expert.
Thanks, Willie.

Yes, either our FATAR tape utility or our FATSCOPY tape utility can do
the job.  See the web site below for details.  We offer free 30-day
trials.  Even if this is a one time job, get a trial and you may want to
keep it gr

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THANX Bruce.  I got File Manager to work for me, but I have FATAR and FATS 
and will check out the website.  Is FATSCOPY a seperate extra added cost 
item?

TTFN,
Mark H. Young

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-18 Thread Bruce Black


FATS/FATAR is your answer.  Bruce can elaborate on FATS/FATAR.  He is the 
expert.

Thanks, Willie.

Yes, either our FATAR tape utility or our FATSCOPY tape utility can do 
the job.  See the web site below for details.  We offer free 30-day 
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keep it gr


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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-14 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Mark,

Already mentoined are the tape copy utilities, whose source can be found on 
File 229 at www.cbttape.org

The programs are also found in the load library at File 35.

//* 229  SOURCE   COPYFILE - copies SL tape fls *   FILE 035
//* 229  SOURCE   COPYSLNL - copies SL to NL*   FILE 035
//* 229  SOURCE   COPYNLNL - copies NL to NL*   FILE 035
//* 229  SOURCE   IGG019WD - with COPYFILE  *   FILE 035
//* 229  SOURCE   IGG019WE - with COPYFILE  *   FILE 035
//* 229  SOURCE   COPYMODS - souped up version  *   FILE 
035
//*with much extra capability   *   FILE 035


They allow automatic multi file tape copying to one or more output tapes 
concurrently. they also have other control parm options to split and merge 
tape files.

refer to File 229 for more details:

//***FILE 229 is a collection of tape copying programs that was *   FILE 
229
//*   put together here by Sam Golob.  The primary program  *   FILE 
229
//*   is called COPYMODS, and it can copy an input tape,*   FILE 229
//*   end to end, to as many as 16 output tapes in one  *   FILE 229
//*   job step.  In addition, COPYMODS has been enhanced to *   FILE 
229
//*   include many new features, but its default operation  *   FILE 229
//*   is still nearly identical to that of the original *   FILE 229
//*   COPYMODS program from Paul Tokheim of the U.S. Air*   FILE 
229
//*   Force in Denver.  Paul's original COPYMODS program*   FILE 229
//*   has been included here as member COPYMODO, so you *   FILE 
229
//*   can see how many enhancements have been made. *   FILE 
229
//* *   FILE 229
//*   If you copy tapes a lot, you'll enjoy the many*   FILE 229
//*   options in the COPYMODS program.  Additionally,   *   FILE 229
//*   you can use COPYFILE, COPYSLNL, and COPYNLNL  *   FILE 
229
//*   and COPYNLNL to achieve whatever tape copying *   FILE 
229
//*   results you want.  If you can't do some job in*   FILE 229
//*   tape copying that you want to do, please contact  *   FILE 229
//*   me, and I'll see if we can add a feature.  Thanks *   FILE 229
//*   in advance.  (S.G.)   *   FILE 229
//* *   FILE 229
//*  Keywords:  TAPECOPY COPYMODS   *   FILE 229
//* *   FILE 229
//*  Note:  COPYFILE and COPYSLNL now have an option to dump*   
FILE 229
//*     tape labels for copied files, in COPYMODS LABLDUMP  *   FILE 
229
//* format.  To enable this, you have to code a *   FILE 229
//* //TAPELOUT DD card in the JCL, and also put a   *   FILE 229
//* //LABLDUMP DD card pointing to an FB-80 format  *   FILE 229
//* dataset that will receive the tape label images.*   FILE 229
//* *   FILE 229
//*   COPYFILE dumps and prints labels from the output tape. *   FILE 
229
//*   COPYSLNL dumps and prints labels from the input tape,  *   FILE 
229
//* since the output tape from COPYSLNL has no labels.  *   FILE 229
//* *   FILE 229
//*  email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   or  [EMAIL PROTECTED]*   FILE 229


Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread R.S.

Mark H. Young wrote:
[...] 

I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment. Heck, it's Friday the 13th, right?!
So I know I want to use IEBGENER for the copy, but is there any way of NOT 
having to code each dataset name of each file for each input/output JCL DD 
statement?


No. 
There are ways to circumvent it. One I can imagine is to prepare multi-step job copying physical datasets, ergo using BLP.

You can then proivde fake names and increase file sequence number. It can be 
easily prepared using ISPF editor.
Caution: number of files  255, more than job steps allowed. You can use IDCAMS 
REPRO's instead of IEBGENER.


Or maybe another utility, like FATS/FATAR, SLANAL, SLANCOPY, TAPEMAP, 
SAS, etc. that would just allow me to code the two input volsers and tell it 
the # of files each has?  Then just give it two scratch tapes for output?


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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread willie bunter
FATS/FATAR is your answer.  Bruce can elaborate on FATS/FATAR.  He is the 
expert.

Mark H. Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  OK boys and 
girls.er.um..ladies and gents, et al. Anyhowseways.
.I have two, count 'em two z/OS 1.7 installation tapes from IBM. I would 
like to first make of copy of both before I do anything with them. I've dumped 
them and they are SL tapes, with lots of multi files.
29 on volume 1 and 953 on volume 2.

I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment. Heck, it's Friday the 13th, right?!
So I know I want to use IEBGENER for the copy, but is there any way of NOT 
having to code each dataset name of each file for each input/output JCL DD 
statement?

Or maybe another utility, like FATS/FATAR, SLANAL, SLANCOPY, TAPEMAP, 
SAS, etc. that would just allow me to code the two input volsers and tell it 
the # of files each has? Then just give it two scratch tapes for output?

THANX in advance,
Mark

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:23:15 -0500, Mark H. Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I would
like to first make of copy of both before I do anything with them.  I've dumped
them and they are SL tapes, with lots of multi files.
29 on volume 1 and 953 on volume 2.


So I know I want to use IEBGENER for the copy, but is there any way of NOT
having to code each dataset name of each file for each input/output JCL DD
statement?

Or maybe another utility, like FATS/FATAR, SLANAL, SLANCOPY, TAPEMAP,
SAS, etc. that would just allow me to code the two input volsers and tell it
the # of files each has?  Then just give it two scratch tapes for output?


Sure you can use utilities like FATAR, FATSCOPY, DITTO, COPYCAT, etc.,
but they all cost $$.

Try Sam Golob's COPYMODS or one of the other tape copy utilities from
file 229 of the cbt:  http://www.cbttape.org

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Jousma, David
 
You don't say it, but do you have IBM's File Manager?  That is really
DITTO under the covers, and will do the copy easily.

Dave


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-Original Message-
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:23:15 -0500, Mark H. Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I would
like to first make of copy of both before I do anything with them.  
I've dumped them and they are SL tapes, with lots of multi files.
29 on volume 1 and 953 on volume 2.


So I know I want to use IEBGENER for the copy, but is there any way of 
NOT having to code each dataset name of each file for each input/output

JCL DD statement?

Or maybe another utility, like FATS/FATAR, SLANAL, SLANCOPY, TAPEMAP, 
SAS, etc. that would just allow me to code the two input volsers and 
tell it the # of files each has?  Then just give it two scratch tapes
for output?


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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Jousma, David
I forgot to ask, out of curiosity, why make copies?   



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  I would
like to first make of copy of both before I do anything with them.  
I've dumped them and they are SL tapes, with lots of multi files.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:46:12 -0400, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I forgot to ask, out of curiosity, why make copies?


You don't say it, but do you have IBM's File Manager?  That is really
DITTO under the covers, and will do the copy easily.



YES, I have IBM's File Manager, but I don't think I've ever used it before.
I've used DITTO a little.  Can you create File Mgr JCL for batch job submit,
or will FM try to do it online and interactive?

As to why make a copy?  We are sending these tapes offsite for another
group (consultant) to build our system for us.  Company is PSR.
My boss wants a copy for safe keeping in our tape library.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 4/13/2007 7:23:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SAS,  etc. that would just allow me to code the two input volsers and tell it 
 
the # of files each has?  Then just give it two scratch tapes for  output?





SAS works fine. TAPECOPY works too, what have you  tried?



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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Jim McAlpine

On 4/13/07, Mark H. Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:46:12 -0400, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

YES, I have IBM's File Manager, but I don't think I've ever used it
before.
I've used DITTO a little.  Can you create File Mgr JCL for batch job
submit,
or will FM try to do it online and interactive?

As to why make a copy?  We are sending these tapes offsite for another
group (consultant) to build our system for us.  Company is PSR.
My boss wants a copy for safe keeping in our tape library.

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Yes you can run it in batch, something like this -

//FILEMGR EXEC PGM=FILEMGR
//STEPLIB  DD  DSN=FMN310.SFMNMOD1,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSABEND DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
//INPUTDD  UNIT=291,VOL=SER=(INPUT),
// DISP=SHR,LABEL=(1,BLP)
//OUTPUT   DD  UNIT=290,VOL=SER=(OUTPUT),
// DISP=SHR,LABEL=(1,BLP)
//SYSINDD  *
££FILEM TT INPUT=INPUT,OUTPUT=OUTPUT,
££FILEMNFILES=EOV
££FILEM EOJ
/*

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shane said:

 Subject:  Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???
 
 Try Sams contribution to the CBT - very good.
 And excellent value for money.
 
Does it:

o Allow the user to control the VOLSER while copying all other
  information from the HDR1 labels?

o Allow the user to copy fewer data sets than all on the input
  volume?  (The first N would suffice for me; no need for
  discontiguous selection.)

o OPEN each output data set, so it gets catalogued by the
  tape management product?

o Support creating additional new data sets beyond those copied?
  (Separate job step works, but we have some cumbersome
  interactions with the tape management product we use.)

o Operate with minimal user interaction to confirm foreign
  volume?

o Generally provide compatibility with tape management products?

SAS does the first two of these well; not so well on the
remainder.  An expert tells me that FATAR does better, but
my management tells me that our license terms do not allow
me to use FATAR.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Imbriale, Donald
Check it out at http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT006.zip

Don Imbriale
 
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

In a recent note, Shane said:

 Subject:  Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???
 
 Try Sams contribution to the CBT - very good.
 And excellent value for money.
 
Does it:

o Allow the user to control the VOLSER while copying all other
  information from the HDR1 labels?

o Allow the user to copy fewer data sets than all on the input
  volume?  (The first N would suffice for me; no need for
  discontiguous selection.)

o OPEN each output data set, so it gets catalogued by the
  tape management product?

o Support creating additional new data sets beyond those copied?
  (Separate job step works, but we have some cumbersome
  interactions with the tape management product we use.)

o Operate with minimal user interaction to confirm foreign
  volume?

o Generally provide compatibility with tape management products?

SAS does the first two of these well; not so well on the
remainder.  An expert tells me that FATAR does better, but
my management tells me that our license terms do not allow
me to use FATAR.



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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Gregory, Gary G
Are you wanting to make a one-for-one copy of the tapes?  If so, I can
give you an example using DITTO (assuming you want to use DITTO).

Gary Garland Gregory, MS
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Subject: Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:46:12 -0400, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I forgot to ask, out of curiosity, why make copies?


You don't say it, but do you have IBM's File Manager?  That is really
DITTO under the covers, and will do the copy easily.



YES, I have IBM's File Manager, but I don't think I've ever used it
before.
I've used DITTO a little.  Can you create File Mgr JCL for batch job
submit,
or will FM try to do it online and interactive?

As to why make a copy?  We are sending these tapes offsite for another
group (consultant) to build our system for us.  Company is PSR.
My boss wants a copy for safe keeping in our tape library.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip--
OK boys and girls.er.um..ladies and gents, et al. 
Anyhowseways..I have two, count 'em two z/OS 1.7 installation 
tapes from IBM. I would like to first make of copy of both before I do 
anything with them. I've dumped them and they are SL tapes, with lots of 
multi files. 29 on volume 1 and 953 on volume 2.


I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment. Heck, it's Friday the 13th, 
right?! So I know I want to use IEBGENER for the copy, but is there any 
way of NOT having to code each dataset name of each file for each 
input/output JCL DD statement?


Or maybe another utility, like FATS/FATAR, SLANAL, SLANCOPY, TAPEMAP, 
SAS, etc. that would just allow me to code the two input volsers and 
tell it the # of files each has? Then just give it two scratch tapes for 
output?

unsnip-
Something I've done in the past is to slap together a simple Assembler 
macro using PUNCH statements to create JCL with substitutions based on 
parameters. Then I edit a TAPEMAP listing to build the invocation 
statements,  assemble the result and edit the SYSPUNCH output to insert 
JOB statements, etc. With that many files on the second tape, you might 
consider using (UGH!!) IEHMOVE to make the copy.


The TAPECOPY utility, from the CBT site, also does an EXCELLENT job of 
copying a tape. I recommend it highly!!!


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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:55:59 -0400, Gregory, Gary G 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you wanting to make a one-for-one copy of the tapes?  If so, I can
give you an example using DITTO (assuming you want to use DITTO).

Gary Garland Gregory, MS
CA
Senior Software Engineer

YES.  Someone gave me a sample set of JCL, and I've been experimenting,
but if you have some DITTO (IBM File Manager) JCL, that would be great.
DITTO is actually IBM File Manager on z/OS under wraps, right?
THANX, Mark

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark H. Young
 
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:55:59 -0400, Gregory, Gary G wrote:
 
 Are you wanting to make a one-for-one copy of the tapes?  If 
 so, I can 
 give you an example using DITTO (assuming you want to use DITTO).
 
 Gary Garland Gregory, MS
 CA
 Senior Software Engineer
 
 YES.  Someone gave me a sample set of JCL, and I've been 
 experimenting, but if you have some DITTO (IBM File Manager) 
 JCL, that would be great.
 DITTO is actually IBM File Manager on z/OS under wraps, right?

Probably more accurate to say that IBM FM is DITTO on steroids.  :-)

-jc-

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 
 Probably more accurate to say that IBM FM is DITTO on steroids.  :-)
 
 -jc-

Hum, then it better not play professional sports!!!

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Jousma, David
Just go through the File Manager panels, and fill in the appropriate
blanks, and it will generate the JCL you need.   Try it, you'll like
it).

Dave 



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YES, I have IBM's File Manager, but I don't think I've ever used it
before.
I've used DITTO a little.  Can you create File Mgr JCL for batch job
submit, or will FM try to do it online and interactive?

As to why make a copy?  We are sending these tapes offsite for another
group (consultant) to build our system for us.  Company is PSR.
My boss wants a copy for safe keeping in our tape library.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:43:32 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:55:59 -0400, Gregory, Gary G wrote:

 Are you wanting to make a one-for-one copy of the tapes?  If
 so, I can
 give you an example using DITTO (assuming you want to use DITTO).
 
 Gary Garland Gregory, MS
 CA
 Senior Software Engineer

 YES.  Someone gave me a sample set of JCL, and I've been
 experimenting, but if you have some DITTO (IBM File Manager)
 JCL, that would be great.
 DITTO is actually IBM File Manager on z/OS under wraps, right?

Probably more accurate to say that IBM FM is DITTO on steroids.  :-)

-jc-


There you go, another juice reference.  I like it!!
Go Barry Bonds, keep hitting those 'roided' HRs.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:27:06 +0100, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On 4/13/07, Mark H. Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:46:12 -0400, Jousma, David 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 YES, I have IBM's File Manager, but I don't think I've ever used it
 before.  I've used DITTO a little.  Can you create File Mgr JCL for batch job
 submit, or will FM try to do it online and interactive?

 As to why make a copy?  We are sending these tapes offsite for another
 group (consultant) to build our system for us.  Company is PSR.
 My boss wants a copy for safe keeping in our tape library.

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Yes you can run it in batch, something like this -

//FILEMGR EXEC PGM=FILEMGR
//STEPLIB  DD  DSN=FMN310.SFMNMOD1,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSABEND DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
//INPUTDD  UNIT=291,VOL=SER=(INPUT),
// DISP=SHR,LABEL=(1,BLP)
//OUTPUT   DD  UNIT=290,VOL=SER=(OUTPUT),
// DISP=SHR,LABEL=(1,BLP)
//SYSINDD  *
$$FILEM TT INPUT=INPUT,OUTPUT=OUTPUT,
$$FILEMNFILES=EOV
$$FILEM EOJ
/*

Jim McAlpine


Thank you so very much Jim McAlpine.  After a little tinkering and 
experimenting, I got it to work.  You are a lifesaver sir.
Take a cold 12-pack out of petty cash on me.

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Re: Tapecopy of two (2) z/OS 1.7 install tapes???

2007-04-13 Thread Gregory, Gary G
Best way to find out the documentation in DITTO is to:

//DITTOXXX EXEC PGM=DITTO,PARM='JOBSTREAM'
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD *
$$DITTO XXX
$$DITTO EOJ
/*

If you don't have the PARM I believe it will require the parameters from
the console.  In that case you can say: XXX and then EOJ.

Gary Garland Gregory, MS
CA 
Senior Software Engineer
Tel: +1-214-473-1863
Fax: +1-214-473-1050
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:55:59 -0400, Gregory, Gary G 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you wanting to make a one-for-one copy of the tapes?  If so, I can
give you an example using DITTO (assuming you want to use DITTO).

Gary Garland Gregory, MS
CA
Senior Software Engineer

YES.  Someone gave me a sample set of JCL, and I've been experimenting,
but if you have some DITTO (IBM File Manager) JCL, that would be great.
DITTO is actually IBM File Manager on z/OS under wraps, right?
THANX, Mark

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