Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-14 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 11/9/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Look at the zfasdmin command. It can dynamically add secondary and/or
 extend to a second volume.


I'm trying to grow a zfs file aggregate with the following command -

zfsadm grow -aggregate zfs.was510.comfig.zfs -size 30

and getting the following error -

IOEZ00175E Error growing aggregate ZFS.WAS510.COMFIG.ZFS, error code=129
reason code=EF17623E

I can't find any reference to the above message or reason code.  The vsam
allocation isfo is as follows -

ALLOCATION
  SPACE-TYPE--CYLINDER HI-A-RBA---36864
  SPACE-PRI500 HI-U-RBA---18432
  SPACE-SEC--0

The user issuing the zfsadm command has a uid of zero.

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-14 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 11/14/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, the bpxmtext function says the EF17623E means: aggregate not
 found. Is the zFS filesystem mounted? I think that it must be.


Sorry, I had a typo in the last attempt at the command.  The previous
attempts with the correct name return the following -

ZFSUSER:/: zfsadm grow -aggregate zfs.was510.config.zfs -size 30
IOEZ00175E Error growing aggregate ZFS.WAS510.CONFIG.ZFS, error code=8
reason code=EF17625D

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-14 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:33 AM
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 Subject: Re: copy zfs dataset
 
 
 On 11/9/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Look at the zfasdmin command. It can dynamically add 
 secondary and/or
  extend to a second volume.
 
 
 I'm trying to grow a zfs file aggregate with the following command -
 
 zfsadm grow -aggregate zfs.was510.comfig.zfs -size 30
 
 and getting the following error -
 
 IOEZ00175E Error growing aggregate ZFS.WAS510.COMFIG.ZFS, 
 error code=129
 reason code=EF17623E
 
 I can't find any reference to the above message or reason 
 code.  The vsam
 allocation isfo is as follows -
 
 ALLOCATION
   SPACE-TYPE--CYLINDER HI-A-RBA---36864
   SPACE-PRI500 HI-U-RBA---18432
   SPACE-SEC--0
 
 The user issuing the zfsadm command has a uid of zero.
 
 Jim McAlpine
 

Well, the bpxmtext function says the EF17623E means: aggregate not
found. Is the zFS filesystem mounted? I think that it must be.

ref:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/FCXD3A80/A.6.
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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-14 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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What size is your zfs currently?  The manual says either the new size is
smaller than the existing dataset, a new size of zero with a zero
secondary allocation on the dataset, or not enough space on the volume. 


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Subject: Re: copy zfs dataset

On 11/14/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, the bpxmtext function says the EF17623E means: aggregate not 
 found. Is the zFS filesystem mounted? I think that it must be.


Sorry, I had a typo in the last attempt at the command.  The previous
attempts with the correct name return the following -

ZFSUSER:/: zfsadm grow -aggregate zfs.was510.config.zfs -size 30
IOEZ00175E Error growing aggregate ZFS.WAS510.CONFIG.ZFS, error code=8
reason code=EF17625D

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-14 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:52 AM
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 Subject: Re: copy zfs dataset
 
 
 On 11/14/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Well, the bpxmtext function says the EF17623E means: aggregate not
  found. Is the zFS filesystem mounted? I think that it must be.
 
 
 Sorry, I had a typo in the last attempt at the command.  The previous
 attempts with the correct name return the following -
 
 ZFSUSER:/: zfsadm grow -aggregate zfs.was510.config.zfs -size 30
 IOEZ00175E Error growing aggregate ZFS.WAS510.CONFIG.ZFS, error code=8
 reason code=EF17625D
 
 Jim McAlpine

OK, that makes more sense. 

1) Is there enough space on the existing volume for the dataset to
expand on that volume in the quantity you specified?

2) If not, does the DSN have a candidate volume?

3) If not, then add a candidate (if SMS managed, then ALTER dsn
ADDVOLUMES(*) should add a candidate

4) If you added a candidate, try the zfsadm command again.

You may need to dismount and remount the zFS file for the ZFS address
space to pick up any changes made in step 3.

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-13 Thread Walter Marguccio
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 Were both datasets the same size? 

No, they were not. Primary and secondary for the source and the
target zFS were different. Being both VSAM, I thought REPRO could do
the job. As I said, I didn't have time to debug further, and since the pax
was successful I was happy with the result.

I just wonder why REPRO did not work in my case. 
It looks like Mark (see previous post) was successful with REPRO.

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-12 Thread Walter Marguccio
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:39:29 +, Jim McAlpine
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks a lot.  BTW do you know if repro is a viable option for the
 copy.
 Obviously it can be used for linear datasets which this is.  I have
 tried
 repro and got rc=0 but haven't tried to mount and use it yet.

 From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Yes.   But you should unmount it first since that won't automatically
 quiesce the file system. 


Weird.
Last week I had to extend a zFS beyond the 4GB limit. So I allocated a new zFS 
with the
needed DATACLASS, then tried to copy my original zFS (4GB) into the new one 
using REPRO.
I received rc=0, but when I mounted the new zFS I did 'cd /mydir' and saw 
nothing 

So I restarted from scratch and this time I used the pax utility to do the 
copy. I mounted
my new zFS, did 'cd /mydir' and saw my files as in my original, 4GB zFS.

I would have thought REPRO would work, as Mark stated above.  In my case it 
didn't.
Unfortunately I didn't have time to investigate/read further. 


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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-12 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Were both datasets the same size?  A zfs is a formatted dataset. REPRO
might work for copying the same size dataset, but I do not think it
would work to copy to a larger dataset.  That would leave the extra
segments unformatted.  


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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: copy zfs dataset

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:39:29 +, Jim McAlpine
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks a lot.  BTW do you know if repro is a viable option for the
 copy.
 Obviously it can be used for linear datasets which this is.  I have
 tried
 repro and got rc=0 but haven't tried to mount and use it yet.

 From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Yes.   But you should unmount it first since that won't automatically
 quiesce the file system. 


Weird.
Last week I had to extend a zFS beyond the 4GB limit. So I allocated a
new zFS with the needed DATACLASS, then tried to copy my original zFS
(4GB) into the new one using REPRO.
I received rc=0, but when I mounted the new zFS I did 'cd /mydir' and
saw nothing 

So I restarted from scratch and this time I used the pax utility to do
the copy. I mounted my new zFS, did 'cd /mydir' and saw my files as in
my original, 4GB zFS.

I would have thought REPRO would work, as Mark stated above.  In my case
it didn't.
Unfortunately I didn't have time to investigate/read further. 


Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
Munich - Germany





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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:04:47 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Were both datasets the same size?  A zfs is a formatted dataset. REPRO
might work for copying the same size dataset, but I do not think it
would work to copy to a larger dataset.  That would leave the extra
segments unformatted.



I ran a REPRO test with my original (personal) zFS and a new one.  Original
was 10 CYL, new was 25.  I was able to mount and see / use the files
when done with the REPRO.

... If you go back to the last time we discussed this,
(I don't recall if it was about backing up or size increase) I think I said
that the manuals on the DFS bookshelf don't mention REPRO.  It was
only mentioned in the Redbook. 

So if it were me, I probably would use DFSMSdss dump / restore or
format an empty zFS and use pax.

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-09 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:51 AM
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 Subject: copy zfs dataset
 
 
 I have a zfs dataset which is allocated with a primary and no 
 secondary
 space and I need to increase the size.  The hi-alloc-rba and 
 the hi-used-rba
 are both at the max size of the primary quantity so it is 
 formatted to its
 max.  How do I increase the size of this.  I presume I have 
 to allocate a
 new one and copy from the old one but what do I use to do the copy.
 
 Jim McAlpine

Look at the zfasdmin command. It can dynamically add secondary and/or
extend to a second volume.

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/FCXD5A70/2.2.
17


Now, to answer the question asked, I usually use pax in copy mode to
copy subdirectories from one filesystem to another one. Oh, I need to be
root to do this properly!

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZA580/PAX

cd /from/subdirectory
pax -rw -pe -k -X * /to/sub/directory

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-09 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 11/9/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Look at the zfasdmin command. It can dynamically add secondary and/or
 extend to a second volume.

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/FCXD5A70/2.2.
 17


 Now, to answer the question asked, I usually use pax in copy mode to
 copy subdirectories from one filesystem to another one. Oh, I need to be
 root to do this properly!

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZA580/PAX

 cd /from/subdirectory
 pax -rw -pe -k -X * /to/sub/directory

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John, any idea when the zfsadmin command arrived as this particular system
is z/OS 1.4 and in which manual is it documented.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-09 Thread McKown, John
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John, any idea when the zfsadmin command arrived as this particular
system
is z/OS 1.4 and in which manual is it documented.

Jim McAlpine


Should be in z/OS 1.4, if I'm reading the book correctly:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/FCXD5A20/2.2.
17

quote
This edition applies to Version 1 Release 4 of z/OS(TM) (5694-A01) and
Version 1 Release 4 of z/OS.e (5655-G52), and to all subsequent releases
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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-09 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 11/9/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Should be in z/OS 1.4, if I'm reading the book correctly:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/FCXD5A20/2.2.
 17

 quote
 This edition applies to Version 1 Release 4 of z/OS(TM) (5694-A01) and
 Version 1 Release 4 of z/OS.e (5655-G52), and to all subsequent releases
 and modifications until otherwise indicated in new editions.
 /quote

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Thanks a lot.  BTW do you know if repro is a viable option for the copy.
Obviously it can be used for linear datasets which this is.  I have tried
repro and got rc=0 but haven't tried to mount and use it yet.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:39:29 +, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks a lot.  BTW do you know if repro is a viable option for the copy.
Obviously it can be used for linear datasets which this is.  I have tried
repro and got rc=0 but haven't tried to mount and use it yet.


Yes.   But you should unmount it first since that won't automatically
quiesce the file system.   I haven't look at the recent doc in the
z/OS library, it probably includes all the information from this 
RedBook that you may also want to look at:

z/OS  Distributed File Service zSeries File System Implementation - 
SG24-6580-01

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Re: copy zfs dataset

2007-11-09 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: copy zfs dataset
 
Thanks a lot.  BTW do you know if repro is a viable option for the
copy.
Obviously it can be used for linear datasets which this is.  I have
tried
repro and got rc=0 but haven't tried to mount and use it yet.

Jim McAlpine


Don't know. Never tried it.

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