Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of McKown, John > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:50 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > > From the web page that I previously posted about z/OS 1.10 > Man, oh man! We'll finally have parity with the other systems for truly > huge volume sizes. One question I had after reading that EAV part -- it says the EAV area allows ESDS, KSDS, RRDS and LDS, so does "LDS" cover PDSE? Or is PDSE still going to be limited to the first 65,520 tracks? Just curious. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
All, Where dod I find the announcement letter for z/os v1.10 ?? Regards, Scott Ford IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of McKown, John > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:50 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > > From the web page that I previously posted about z/OS 1.10 > Man, oh man! We'll finally have parity with the other systems for truly > huge volume sizes. One question I had after reading that EAV part -- it says the EAV area allows ESDS, KSDS, RRDS and LDS, so does "LDS" cover PDSE? Or is PDSE still going to be limited to the first 65,520 tracks? Just curious. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:30:20 -0500, Scott Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >All, >Where dod I find the announcement letter for z/os v1.10 ?? >Regards, >Scott Ford IDF > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS208-042 -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:18:56 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One question I had after reading that EAV part -- it says the EAV area >allows ESDS, KSDS, RRDS and LDS, so does "LDS" cover PDSE? Or is PDSE >still going to be limited to the first 65,520 tracks? > What the announcement actually says: In z/OS V1.10, support is planned for SMS and non-SMS managed VSAM data sets (ESDS, KSDS, RRDS, and LDS) at any location on an extended address volume. Non-VSAM data sets, catalogs, page data sets, and VSAM data sets with the KEYRANGE or IMBED attribute are restricted to the first 65,520 cylinders. So, as it says, the support planned in z/OS V1.10 is for VSAM data in the extended area (except for the kinds of VSAM exempted in the next sentence), and everything else in the non extended area. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Walt Farrell > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > What the announcement actually says: > So, as it says, the support planned in z/OS V1.10 is for VSAM data in the > extended area (except for the kinds of VSAM exempted in the next > sentence), and everything else in the non extended area. So you are saying that "everything else" includes PDSE? Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 02/27/2008 05:18:56 PM: > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of McKown, John > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:50 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > Subject: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > > > > From the web page that I previously posted about z/OS 1.10 > > > Man, oh man! We'll finally have parity with the other systems for > truly > > huge volume sizes. > > One question I had after reading that EAV part -- it says the EAV area > allows ESDS, KSDS, RRDS and LDS, so does "LDS" cover PDSE? Or is PDSE > still going to be limited to the first 65,520 tracks? > In z/OS 1.10, PDSE remains limited to residing within cylinders 0-x''. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:51:57 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So you are saying that "everything else" includes PDSE? Yes, as PDSE is -not- VSAM. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
Mark, Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.. Regards, Scott Ford IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:30:20 -0500, Scott Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >All, >Where dod I find the announcement letter for z/os v1.10 ?? >Regards, >Scott Ford IDF > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&app name=iSource&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS208-042 -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Scott Ford > > All, > Where dod I find the announcement letter for z/os v1.10 ?? http://preview.tinyurl.com/2su7lf Note that it's a "preview", not "the announcement letter". -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walt Farrell > > > What the announcement actually says: > > > So, as it says, the support planned in z/OS V1.10 is for > VSAM data in the > > extended area (except for the kinds of VSAM exempted in the next > > sentence), and everything else in the non extended area. > > So you are saying that "everything else" includes PDSE? And probably DB2 objects, which also live in LDSes. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:48:14 -0600, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walt Farrell >> >> > What the announcement actually says: >> >> > So, as it says, the support planned in z/OS V1.10 is for >> VSAM data in the >> > extended area (except for the kinds of VSAM exempted in the next >> > sentence), and everything else in the non extended area. >> >> So you are saying that "everything else" includes PDSE? > >And probably DB2 objects, which also live in LDSes. > To try to be clear: LDSes are VSAM, and thus eligible for placement in the extended area. DB2 will benefit from EAV, as will zFS (both are mentioned in the preview announcement). PDSEs are not VSAM, and are not eligible for placement in the extended area in z/OS R10. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
I'm curious about future enhancements. As I understood the letter, VSAM datasets are for beginning (as 223GB vol. size). IMHO we can expect in the future ext fmt PS and PDSE in the "upper area". Of course only IBMers know (and won't disclose). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jim Mulder > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > > IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 02/27/2008 > 05:18:56 PM: > > > One question I had after reading that EAV part -- it says the EAV area > > allows ESDS, KSDS, RRDS and LDS, so does "LDS" cover PDSE? Or is PDSE > > still going to be limited to the first 65,520 tracks? > >In z/OS 1.10, PDSE remains limited to residing within cylinders > 0-x''. Jim, thanks for the direct answer. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Walt Farrell > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:58 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:51:57 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >So you are saying that "everything else" includes PDSE? > > Yes, as PDSE is -not- VSAM. Thank you for that clarification. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
Radoslaw, The way I read this is that in z/OS 1.10, support will be limited to only the specified dataset types. As for what may happen in the future, nothing is guaranteed, however, at the same time, nothing has been publicly ruled out. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size I'm curious about future enhancements. As I understood the letter, VSAM datasets are for beginning (as 223GB vol. size). IMHO we can expect in the future ext fmt PS and PDSE in the "upper area". Of course only IBMers know (and won't disclose). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
