Removing BINS from RMM
This seems like a pretty common exercise but I can’t find any meaningful information on it. We have an offsite location that was bin managed so we have numerous bins defined for the location. But now the location is no longer bin managed and I’m trying to remove the bins from RMM, all of which are empty. I changed the MANAGEMENTTYPE to NOBINS but RMM is still trying to assign bins to tapes going to that location. I removed the bins from RMM and now RMM housekeeping terminates because there are no bins in the location. I tried re-adding some bins and RMM refuses, saying it’s not a self managed location: Location OP is not shelf-managed. Specify the name of a shelf-managed storage location. Seems I’ve gone full circle. Does anyone know how to tell RMM to quit assigning bins for this location? EDG2403E MOVE OF VOLUME VT0025 DEFERRED - NO AVAILABLE EMPTY BIN NUMBERS FOR MEDIANAME CART IN LOCATION OP EDGRMM00: LOCDEF LOCATION(OP) MEDIANAME(CART) MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS) TYPE(STORAGE) RMM: 5.7.8 Location Locdef Management Location Priority Media Names, Type Type, -- -- - . . . OP ,YES ,NOBINS,STORE ,2000,CART David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional | DoIT Facility State of Nevada | Department of Information Technology T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@doit.nv.gov This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, dissemination or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Removing BINS from RMM
On 2/25/2011 11:23, David G. Schlecht wrote: > This seems like a pretty common exercise but I can’t find any meaningful > information on it. We have an offsite location that was bin managed so we > have numerous bins defined for the location. But now the location is no > longer bin managed and I’m trying to remove the bins from RMM, all of which > are empty. > > I changed the MANAGEMENTTYPE to NOBINS but RMM is still trying to assign bins > to tapes going to that location. I removed the bins from RMM and now RMM > housekeeping terminates because there are no bins in the location. I tried > re-adding some bins and RMM refuses, saying it’s not a self managed location: > Location OP is not shelf-managed. Specify the name of a shelf-managed storage > location. > > Seems I’ve gone full circle. > > Does anyone know how to tell RMM to quit assigning bins for this location? > > EDG2403E MOVE OF VOLUME VT0025 DEFERRED - NO AVAILABLE EMPTY BIN NUMBERS FOR > MEDIANAME CART IN LOCATION OP > > EDGRMM00: > LOCDEF LOCATION(OP) >MEDIANAME(CART) >MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS) >TYPE(STORAGE) > > RMM: 5.7.8 > Location Locdef Management Location Priority Media Names, > Type Type, > -- -- - > . > . > . > OP ,YES ,NOBINS,STORE ,2000,CART > > > > > David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional | DoIT Facility > State of Nevada | Department of Information Technology > T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@doit.nv.gov > > > > This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential > information and is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is > addressed. Any review, dissemination or copying of this communication by > anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > delete all copies of the original message. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > Just a quick thought and maybe a dumb question but, did you tell RMM about your location change? Cycle RMM to activate the change or issue a modify F stcnamehere,M=xx the M=xx where xx is your parmlib member. TSO LC RMM ALL should show what RMM is using currently. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Removing BINS from RMM
Thanks for the response and the suggestion. Yes, RMM knows of the changes. Are there any other ideas out there? This really must be a pretty common exercise. I can't imagine no one else has done this. Is there something more I need to change in RMM so I can remove the bins? David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional | DoIT Facility State of Nevada | Department of Information Technology T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@doit.nv.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Removing BINS from RMM On 2/25/2011 11:23, David G. Schlecht wrote: > This seems like a pretty common exercise but I can’t find any meaningful > information on it. We have an offsite location that was bin managed so we > have numerous bins defined for the location. But now the location is no > longer bin managed and I’m trying to remove the bins from RMM, all of which > are empty. > > I changed the MANAGEMENTTYPE to NOBINS but RMM is still trying to assign bins > to tapes going to that location. I removed the bins from RMM and now RMM > housekeeping terminates because there are no bins in the location. I tried > re-adding some bins and RMM refuses, saying it’s not a self managed location: > Location OP is not shelf-managed. Specify the name of a shelf-managed storage > location. > > Seems I’ve gone full circle. > > Does anyone know how to tell RMM to quit assigning bins for this location? > > EDG2403E MOVE OF VOLUME VT0025 DEFERRED - NO AVAILABLE EMPTY BIN NUMBERS FOR > MEDIANAME CART IN LOCATION OP > > EDGRMM00: > LOCDEF LOCATION(OP) >MEDIANAME(CART) >MANAGEMENTTYPE(NOBINS) >TYPE(STORAGE) > > RMM: 5.7.8 > Location Locdef Management Location Priority Media Names, > Type Type, > -- -- - > . > . > . > OP ,YES ,NOBINS,STORE ,2000,CART > > > > > David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional | DoIT Facility > State of Nevada | Department of Information Technology > T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@doit.nv.gov > > > > This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential > information and is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is > addressed. Any review, dissemination or copying of this communication by > anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > delete all copies of the original message. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > Just a quick thought and maybe a dumb question but, did you tell RMM about your location change? Cycle RMM to activate the change or issue a modify F stcnamehere,M=xx the M=xx where xx is your parmlib member. TSO LC RMM ALL should show what RMM is using currently. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Removing BINS from RMM
- Original Message - From: "David G. Schlecht" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Removing BINS from RMM Thanks for the response and the suggestion. Yes, RMM knows of the changes. Are there any other ideas out there? This really must be a pretty common exercise. I can't imagine no one else has done this. Is there something more I need to change in RMM so I can remove the bins? David, You should open a Q&A with RMM support if you have Q&A support. From reading the manuals, it looks like the bins have to be empty before you delete them. So I would create a temporary location with NOBINS, manually move all my tapes to that location, delete all the BINS in the old location, and then manually move the tapes back to the old location. Delete the temp location, then issue a CV AUTOMOVE for all the volumes you moved. I have not done this, but from reading the books, this process should work. There could be easier ways to accomplish it, so I would contact RMM support. Regards, Thomas Conley, President/CEO Pinnacle Consulting Group, Inc. 59 Applewood Drive Rochester, NY 14612-3501 P: (585)720-0012 F: (585)723-3713 http://home.roadrunner.com/~pinncons/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Removing BINS from RMM
David, How you deal with this depends on your level of rmm. Looks like you are on an older release that needs extra work, because rmm was changed in z/OS R11 to simplify the procedure needed for such a management type change. See the I&C Guide 9.8 Changing Storage Locations http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2c871/9.8?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0G&DT=20081217173205 The management type is remembered in the VRS - so you have to delete/redefine the VRSes specifying that changed location. From R11 on, that is no longer required. The location type from the VRS is saved into the volume 'required location', so be sure to rerun VRSEL once you made the VRS changes to update all the existing values in the volume records. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Removing BINS from RMM
Thanks to all for your input. It looks like we have a plan, though, not as straight forward as one would expect. Having to recreate every VRS that uses one of the changing locations seems like a bug, but alas, so it be written, so it be done. Thanks, again. David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional | DoIT Facility State of Nevada | Department of Information Technology T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@doit.nv.gov -Original Message- From: Mike Wood [mailto:mikeww...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu; David G. Schlecht Subject: Re: Removing BINS from RMM David, How you deal with this depends on your level of rmm. Looks like you are on an older release that needs extra work, because rmm was changed in z/OS R11 to simplify the procedure needed for such a management type change. See the I&C Guide 9.8 Changing Storage Locations http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2c871/9.8?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0G&DT=20081217173205 The management type is remembered in the VRS - so you have to delete/redefine the VRSes specifying that changed location. From R11 on, that is no longer required. The location type from the VRS is saved into the volume 'required location', so be sure to rerun VRSEL once you made the VRS changes to update all the existing values in the volume records. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Removing BINS from RMM
David, Take a look at the clist, EDGRVCLN. It is documented in the books. One of its functions is to create a list of all VRSes using ADDVRS subcommands, and it also can generate the DELETE VRS subcommands. You can edit the commands, and then run the ones you want to quickly do the changes. Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
