Response time info for TPX
Hello: We currently use a session manager called Netpass, and we are looking at replacing it with CA-TPX. Right now Netpass gives us response time info that is fairly simplistic, and management uses this for some SLA comparisons. It appears that CA-TPX does not provide the same type of response time info, and we do not really have any other type of product that will pull this. So my question is this - is there a way to get response time info for CA-TPX for the selected applications within native CA-TPX (I don't think so), or from some other IBM SMF record? We can also purchase another CA product to do this since we have a global license with CA. So if CA-TPX will not specifically do this, and there is no SMF info that natively gives this, then is there a CA product anyone knows of that may do this? Thanks Todd Burrell -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Response time info for TPX
I'm not a CA expert, so somebody else can jump in I'm sure and expand on my ideas, but have you looked at CA SOLVE:Access yet? That's another CA session management product, previously from Sterling. It may or may not be necessary to combine SOLVE:Access (or TPX) with something like CA NetMaster Network Management for TCP/IP to get the functionality you describe, so I think I'd look in that area as well. (You may have NetMaster already anyway.) Alternatively, I believe SOLVE:Access can report into Tivoli NetView Performance Monitor if you have that. If you're open to other vendors there are more options. (Just look for previous threads on session management products.) I do know that IBM Session Manager should provide what you're looking for via its included Response Time Monitor. Have a look at page 250 of the Session Manager V2.1 Facilities Reference to get the basic idea. Here's the direct link to that document: http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/isze3302.pdf. I'll copy/paste Example 2 from that section, and then you can post a reply if you wish saying "that's the idea" or "no, I mean this" Command: Q USER JOHN RTMALL Result: USER JOHN PROFILE PROF1 LU S05TVV01 (2) S10VM ACB S10JC009 LGMD D4B32795 status -A- S( ),P( ) Current Session started at 11/20/02 13:34:19 Total: Average Response = 0.60 seconds Total: Not exceeding 0.20 = 7 ( 70%) Total: Exceeding 0.20 but not exceeding 0.30 = 1 ( 10%) Total: Exceeding 0.30 = 2 ( 20%) Total: Latest 5 = 0.15, 0.15, 0.15, 0.15, 0.24 Total: Longest = 2.53 (11/20/02 13:38:41) Total: 2nd Longest = 2.27 (11/20/02 13:38:39) Total: 3rd Longest = 0.24 (11/20/02 13:38:44) Total: 4th Longest = 0.15 (11/20/02 13:38:58) Total: 5th Longest = 0.15 (11/20/02 13:38:47) Network: Average Response = 0.33 seconds Network: Not exceeding 0.20 = 9 ( 90%) Network: Exceeding 0.20 but not exceeding 0.30 = 0 ( 0%)) Network: Exceeding 0.30 = 1 ( 10%) Network: Latest 5 = 0.09, 0.09, 0.08, 0.09, 0.17 Network: Longest = 2.47 (11/20/02 13:38:41) Network: 2nd Longest = 0.17 (11/20/02 13:38:44) Network: 3rd Longest = 0.10 (11/20/02 13:38:39) Network: 4th Longest = 0.09 (11/20/02 13:38:58) Network: 5th Longest = 0.09 (11/20/02 13:38:51) Application: Average Response = 0.27 seconds Application: Not exceeding 0.20 = 9 ( 90%) Application: Exceeding 0.20 but not exceeding 0.30 = 0 ( 0%) Application: Exceeding 0.30 = 1 ( 10%) Application: Latest 5 = 0.06, 0.05, 0.06, 0.06, 0.06 Application: Longest = 2.17 (11/20/02 13:38:39) Application: 2nd Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:44) Application: 3rd Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:47) Application: 4th Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:58) Application: 5th Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:50) - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Response time info for TPX
Timothy: Thanks for the response. This is exaclty the type of into I am looking for. We are pretty tied to try and use a solution from CA since we have a global license there and we are trying to replacing a cost product with a solution that is free, thus giving us cost savings. But I'll look into the other CA solutions. Thanks C. Todd Burrell Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Response time info for TPX I'm not a CA expert, so somebody else can jump in I'm sure and expand on my ideas, but have you looked at CA SOLVE:Access yet? That's another CA session management product, previously from Sterling. It may or may not be necessary to combine SOLVE:Access (or TPX) with something like CA NetMaster Network Management for TCP/IP to get the functionality you describe, so I think I'd look in that area as well. (You may have NetMaster already anyway.) Alternatively, I believe SOLVE:Access can report into Tivoli NetView Performance Monitor if you have that. If you're open to other vendors there are more options. (Just look for previous threads on session management products.) I do know that IBM Session Manager should provide what you're looking for via its included Response Time Monitor. Have a look at page 250 of the Session Manager V2.1 Facilities Reference to get the basic idea. Here's the direct link to that document: http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/isze3302.pdf. I'll copy/paste Example 2 from that section, and then you can post a reply if you wish saying "that's the idea" or "no, I mean this" Command: Q USER JOHN RTMALL Result: USER JOHN PROFILE PROF1 LU S05TVV01 (2) S10VM ACB S10JC009 LGMD D4B32795 status -A- S( ),P( ) Current Session started at 11/20/02 13:34:19 Total: Average Response = 0.60 seconds Total: Not exceeding 0.20 = 7 ( 70%) Total: Exceeding 0.20 but not exceeding 0.30 = 1 ( 10%) Total: Exceeding 0.30 = 2 ( 20%) Total: Latest 5 = 0.15, 0.15, 0.15, 0.15, 0.24 Total: Longest = 2.53 (11/20/02 13:38:41) Total: 2nd Longest = 2.27 (11/20/02 13:38:39) Total: 3rd Longest = 0.24 (11/20/02 13:38:44) Total: 4th Longest = 0.15 (11/20/02 13:38:58) Total: 5th Longest = 0.15 (11/20/02 13:38:47) Network: Average Response = 0.33 seconds Network: Not exceeding 0.20 = 9 ( 90%) Network: Exceeding 0.20 but not exceeding 0.30 = 0 ( 0%)) Network: Exceeding 0.30 = 1 ( 10%) Network: Latest 5 = 0.09, 0.09, 0.08, 0.09, 0.17 Network: Longest = 2.47 (11/20/02 13:38:41) Network: 2nd Longest = 0.17 (11/20/02 13:38:44) Network: 3rd Longest = 0.10 (11/20/02 13:38:39) Network: 4th Longest = 0.09 (11/20/02 13:38:58) Network: 5th Longest = 0.09 (11/20/02 13:38:51) Application: Average Response = 0.27 seconds Application: Not exceeding 0.20 = 9 ( 90%) Application: Exceeding 0.20 but not exceeding 0.30 = 0 ( 0%) Application: Exceeding 0.30 = 1 ( 10%) Application: Latest 5 = 0.06, 0.05, 0.06, 0.06, 0.06 Application: Longest = 2.17 (11/20/02 13:38:39) Application: 2nd Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:44) Application: 3rd Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:47) Application: 4th Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:58) Application: 5th Longest = 0.06 (11/20/02 13:38:50) - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Response time info for TPX
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:52:54 -0500, Todd Burrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello: >We currently use a session manager called Netpass, and we are looking at >replacing it with CA-TPX. Right now Netpass gives us response time info that >is fairly simplistic, and management uses this for some SLA comparisons. > >It appears that CA-TPX does not provide the same type of response time info, >and we do not really have any other type of product that will pull this. > >So my question is this - is there a way to get response time info for CA-TPX >for the selected applications within native CA-TPX (I don't think so), or from >some other IBM SMF record? We can also purchase another CA product to do >this since we have a global license with CA. So if CA-TPX will not >specifically >do this, and there is no SMF info that natively gives this, then is there a CA >product anyone knows of that may do this? > >Thanks > >Todd Burrell > It has been a while since I worked with tpx, but I seem to recall that there was an interface that could be used by CA-MAZDAMON or NPM. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
