Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-06-01 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
At my shop the main reason we  did not like it because of the lack of 
support for MVS files.


We have found that if you have FTP servers and clients that support the 
EPSV4 command NAT is not an issue.



Kirk Wolf wrote:

Munif,

I'm just curious, but can you elaborate on what you don't like
about sftp.   Was it:

-  lack of direct support for MVS datasets?
-  batch invocation problems (BPXBATCH issues)?
-  key authentication setup?
-  logging?
-  performance?
-  other?

We are ourselves working on some solutions to some of these problems,
and I'm curious as to what issues you (or others on this list) have found.

As you may know, sftp has some advantages over FTPS, like:

- wide-spread deployment in *nix and windows environments
- single socket protocol works much better with many firewalls and nat 
routers


Regards,
Kirk Wolf


Munif Sadek wrote:


Dear listers,

We have tried sftp and did not like it. OPS hated it and even our job 
scheduler did not find it very friendly. Now would like to try FTPS. 
We have been using SSL for Telnet 3270 although no crypto processor on 
site.


I did a quick search in our z/OS 1.7 library and did not find any 
match for FTPS.

Thanks for any pointers you can pass on.

Best regards, Munif.



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Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-06-01 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Subject: SFTP vs FTPS

Dear listers,

We have tried sftp and did not like it. OPS hated it and even our job 
scheduler did not find it very friendly. Now would like to try FTPS. We 
have been using SSL for Telnet 3270 although no crypto processor on
site.

I did a quick search in our z/OS 1.7 library and did not find any match 
for FTPS. 

Thanks for any pointers you can pass on.

Best regards, Munif.

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Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-06-01 Thread Kirk Wolf

Munif,

I'm just curious, but can you elaborate on what you don't like
about sftp.   Was it:

-  lack of direct support for MVS datasets?
-  batch invocation problems (BPXBATCH issues)?
-  key authentication setup?
-  logging?
-  performance?
-  other?

We are ourselves working on some solutions to some of these problems,
and I'm curious as to what issues you (or others on this list) have found.

As you may know, sftp has some advantages over FTPS, like:

- wide-spread deployment in *nix and windows environments
- single socket protocol works much better with many firewalls and nat 
routers


Regards,
Kirk Wolf


Munif Sadek wrote:


Dear listers,

We have tried sftp and did not like it. OPS hated it and even our job 
scheduler did not find it very friendly. Now would like to try FTPS. We 
have been using SSL for Telnet 3270 although no crypto processor on site.


I did a quick search in our z/OS 1.7 library and did not find any match 
for FTPS. 


Thanks for any pointers you can pass on.

Best regards, Munif.

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Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-05-31 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
It is documented in the Communication Server Manuals and is called 
"Secure FTP".


Munif Sadek wrote:

Dear listers,

We have tried sftp and did not like it. OPS hated it and even our job 
scheduler did not find it very friendly. Now would like to try FTPS. We 
have been using SSL for Telnet 3270 although no crypto processor on site.


I did a quick search in our z/OS 1.7 library and did not find any match 
for FTPS. 


Thanks for any pointers you can pass on.

Best regards, Munif.



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SFTP vs FTPS

2006-05-31 Thread Munif Sadek
Dear listers,

We have tried sftp and did not like it. OPS hated it and even our job 
scheduler did not find it very friendly. Now would like to try FTPS. We 
have been using SSL for Telnet 3270 although no crypto processor on site.

I did a quick search in our z/OS 1.7 library and did not find any match 
for FTPS. 

Thanks for any pointers you can pass on.

Best regards, Munif.

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