>Don't forget ULC.
>PSCL plus ULC is still the most advantageous option for us. 

I've forgotten what ULC is (if I ever knew).
There are so many pricing options around, and if you have knowledgable 
negotiators, you can get a deal so many different ways.
It's almost as if each shop has its own customised option.

In every site I've worked at there have been opportunities to cut costs.
Sometimes, you have to perform unnatural acts to get the breaks, but I've never 
had to 'break up' a SYSPLEX.
I've received deals by putting two together, though.
Also, GDPS is difficult if you have more than one PRODPLEX.

In general, I've found IBM (and most ISVs) willing to cut a deal, usually 
because lower revenue from a customer is better than no revenue from that same 
customer.

Sometimes, I've had to threaten to take my business elsewhere.
This is most effective when there is a workalike, or something close, that is 
cheaper right out of the box.

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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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