Strange ADRDSSU behavior (ADR485E)

2010-11-19 Thread R.S.

The following scenario:
z/OS 1.11
DSS job
COPY DS(INC(**) EXC(SYS1.VVDS.**)) -
 LOGINDDNAME(IND) -
 CANCELERROR TOLERATE(ENQF) -
 OUTDD(OTD) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -
 RECATALOG(CAT.MAST.NEWCAT) -
 RENAMEU(ZFS.OLDSYS.**,ZFS.NEWSYS.**)

The job succesfully copies all ZFS (VSAM LDS) datasets, *except* the 
following one: ZFS.OLDSYS.SHPUROOT


DSS end with RC=8 and te following message.
ADR485E (001)-AMOVE(01), CATALOG CAT.MAST.NEWCAT IS NOT IN 
STEPCAT/JOBCAT/MASTERCAT STRUCTURE. DATA SET ZFS.OLDSYS.SHPUROOT WILL BE 
PROCESSED.


Manual says: he NONSMS cluster named in the message required DFSMSdss to 
use IDCAMS or VSAM I/O to perform the COPY or RESTORE. This
requires that both the source and target cluster (allocated by DFSMSdss) 
be accessible via the catalog structure.


I have no idea why this dataset requires IDCAMS, while other datasets 
were succesfully processed.


Any clue???


BTW: I googled for ADR485E - first hit says about empty cluster - this 
cluster is NOT empty.

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland


--
BRE Bank SA
ul. Senatorska 18
00-950 Warszawa
www.brebank.pl

Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy 
XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, 
nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237

NIP: 526-021-50-88
Według stanu na dzień 16.07.2010 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.248.328 złotych. 


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html


Re: Strange ADRDSSU behavior (ADR485E)

2010-11-16 Thread Doug Fuerst
I just went through a similar situation. If I remember what I read, 
DF/dss actually invokes IDCAMS under the covers to actually perform 
the action you are trying. IF you dump the zfs dataset, and restore it 
with a newname, it should work properly.


Doug

On 16-Nov-10 09:28, R.S. wrote:

The following scenario:
z/OS 1.11
DSS job
COPY DS(INC(**) EXC(SYS1.VVDS.**)) -
 LOGINDDNAME(IND) -
 CANCELERROR TOLERATE(ENQF) -
 OUTDD(OTD) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -
 RECATALOG(CAT.MAST.NEWCAT) -
 RENAMEU(ZFS.OLDSYS.**,ZFS.NEWSYS.**)

The job succesfully copies all ZFS (VSAM LDS) datasets, *except* the 
following one: ZFS.OLDSYS.SHPUROOT


DSS end with RC=8 and te following message.
ADR485E (001)-AMOVE(01), CATALOG CAT.MAST.NEWCAT IS NOT IN 
STEPCAT/JOBCAT/MASTERCAT STRUCTURE. DATA SET ZFS.OLDSYS.SHPUROOT WILL 
BE PROCESSED.


Manual says: he NONSMS cluster named in the message required DFSMSdss 
to use IDCAMS or VSAM I/O to perform the COPY or RESTORE. This
requires that both the source and target cluster (allocated by 
DFSMSdss) be accessible via the catalog structure.


I have no idea why this dataset requires IDCAMS, while other datasets 
were succesfully processed.


Any clue???


BTW: I googled for ADR485E - first hit says about empty cluster - this 
cluster is NOT empty.


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html


Re: Strange ADRDSSU behavior (ADR485E)

2010-11-16 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2010-11-16 22:39, Doug Fuerst pisze:

I just went through a similar situation. If I remember what I read,
DF/dss actually invokes IDCAMS under the covers to actually perform
the action you are trying. IF you dump the zfs dataset, and restore it
with a newname, it should work properly.


The reason is EAV. No, I don't have to do with EAV-capable hardware, but 
the software has been changed. There are new rules for CA size. The 
exceptional dataset had CA size which is not used by new system (it was 
created by downlevel driving system), so during the copy it's be 
transformed. The rest of datasest (actually I checked only few of them) 
do have legal CA sizes.
So, indeed - dump-restore would help because it would create new dataset 
with new CA size.


BTW: I had very similar issue during upgrade from OS/390 2.10 to z/OS 
1.4 - then it was index size changed.


Thank everyone who tried to help me
Regards
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland


--
BRE Bank SA
ul. Senatorska 18
00-950 Warszawa
www.brebank.pl

Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy 
XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, 
nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237

NIP: 526-021-50-88
Według stanu na dzień 16.07.2010 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.248.328 złotych. 


--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html