Re: Symbols in batch JCL (was: START fails no diagnostics!)

2005-12-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Patrick O'Keefe said:

> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:18:55 -0600
> 
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:30:53 -0700, Paul Gilmartin
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> >This technique is far less effective if the STC JCL contains system
> >symbols.  There's another good argument here for supporting symbols
> >in batch JCL.
> >...
> 
> For that kind of test it's a whole lot faster to stick some SET statements
> in the jobstream than to wait for IBM to provide system symbol support in
> batch jobs.
> 
I'm certainly not waiting.  But, equally, I'll not dissemble to
IBM my dissatisfaction with such a circumvention.

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Re: Symbols in batch JCL (was: START fails no diagnostics!)

2005-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:30:53 -0700, Paul Gilmartin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>This technique is far less effective if the STC JCL contains system
>symbols.  There's another good argument here for supporting symbols
>in batch JCL.
>...

For that kind of test it's a whole lot faster to stick some SET statements
in the jobstream than to wait for IBM to provide system symbol support in
batch jobs.

Pat O'Keefe

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Symbols in batch JCL (was: START fails no diagnostics!)

2005-12-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Lizette Koehler said:

> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:01:57 -0700
> 
> One thing I usually do with STCs that fail, is to run the STC JCL as a batch
> job.  It would not matter if the job failed, but I would be able to see if
> there were any data sets that were not valid or if there were some other
> issue or messages.
> 
This technique is far less effective if the STC JCL contains system
symbols.  There's another good argument here for supporting symbols
in batch JCL.

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