Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread Angel Tamayo
It seems Tom was right, we found a new exit that we didn't ask. In SMPE we
found the exit applied and don't know what it is doing yet, we are going to
check it but if it is not necessary we can reject it.

Thanks a lot to all for your time.



2007/12/5, Walt Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:54:42 -0500, Angel Tamayo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8,
> but
> >5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not
> >logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:
> >
> >If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if
> I'm
> >not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did before
> >upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.
> >
> >We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'.
> This
> >command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic notification
> as
> >it was working before the upgrade.
>
> This is probably too obvious to provide the answer, but are you sure that
> you didn't request NOMAIL or NONOTICES on the logon panel?
>
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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:54:42 -0500, Angel Tamayo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8, but
>5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not
>logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:
>
>If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if I'm
>not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did before
>upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.
>
>We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'. This
>command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic notification as
>it was working before the upgrade.

This is probably too obvious to provide the answer, but are you sure that
you didn't request NOMAIL or NONOTICES on the logon panel?

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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread Angel Tamayo
It's monoplex.

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> Is your 1.8 part of any Sysplex ? Monoplex ?
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>
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RES: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Angel,

Is your 1.8 part of any Sysplex ? Monoplex ?
 


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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread Angel Tamayo
There is no differences between SEND section in z/OS 1.7 and SEND section in
z/OS 1.8 but it is different  than the yours:

THE FOLLOWING ARE THE PARMLIB OPTIONS FOR SEND:
  OPERSEND(ON)
  USERSEND(ON)
  SAVE(ON)
  CHKBROD(OFF)
  LOGNAME(*)
  USEBROD(ON)
  MSGPROTECT(OFF)
  SYSPLEXSHR(OFF)
  OPERSEWAIT(ON)
  USERLOGSIZE(1,2)
  BROADCAST(DATASET(SYS1.BRODCAST)




2007/12/4, Field, Alan C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Did something change in PARMLIB member IKJTSO00? Are you using the same
> PARMLIB on 1.8 as 1.7?
>
> Here is the SEND section from ours:
>
> SEND  /* SEND COMMAND DEFAULTS */  +
>OPERSEND(ON)   /*   */  +
>USERSEND(ON)   /*   */  +
>SAVE(ON)   /*   */  +
>CHKBROD(ON)/*   */  +
>USEBROD(ON)/*   */  +
>MSGPROTECT(OFF)/*   */  +
>OPERSEWAIT(OFF)/*   */  +
>SYSPLEXSHR(ON) /*   */  +
>LOGNAME(ULOG.DATA) /*   */
>
>
>
>
> > Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS
> 1.8,
> > but
> > 5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and
> > not logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:
> >
> > If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but
> if
> > I'm not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did
> > before upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.
> >
> > We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND
> 'LISTBC'.
> > This command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic
> > notification as it was working before the upgrade.
> >
> > I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow
> instructions,
> > could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to
> > change to restore the automatic notification ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Angel Tamayo
> > System Programmer
>
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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread Field, Alan C.
Did something change in PARMLIB member IKJTSO00? Are you using the same
PARMLIB on 1.8 as 1.7?   

Here is the SEND section from ours:

SEND  /* SEND COMMAND DEFAULTS */  +
   OPERSEND(ON)   /*   */  +
   USERSEND(ON)   /*   */  +
   SAVE(ON)   /*   */  +
   CHKBROD(ON)/*   */  +
   USEBROD(ON)/*   */  +
   MSGPROTECT(OFF)/*   */  +
   OPERSEWAIT(OFF)/*   */  +
   SYSPLEXSHR(ON) /*   */  +
   LOGNAME(ULOG.DATA) /*   */




> Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS
1.8,
> but
> 5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and
> not logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:
>
> If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but
if
> I'm not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did
> before upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.
>
> We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND
'LISTBC'.
> This command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic
> notification as it was working before the upgrade.
>
> I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow
instructions,
> could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to
> change to restore the automatic notification ?
>
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Angel Tamayo
> System Programmer

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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread Angel Tamayo
Thanks a lot for your responses.

The answer for the last three questions:

1.- Did you then check for the IKJEESnn or IKJVSNXn system exits: We are not
using those exits.
2.- Are there any messages in the SYSLOG at the point in time where a batch
job would normally execute the NOTIFY?: At the end any job there are a
normal SEND message: SE '15.01.07 J0295959 $HASP165 ATAMAYOJ ENDED AT SYS3
MAXCC=1',LOGON,USER=(ATAMAYO)
3.- What message appear in SYSLOG when the NOTIFY is issued and you're not
logged on ?. The message that appears in SYSLOG is the same as the question
2:
SE '15.01.07 J0295959 $HASP165 ATAMAYOJ ENDED AT SYS3
MAXCC=1',LOGON,USER=(ATAMAYO)


2007/12/4, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Angel,
>
> What message appear in SYSLOG when the NOTIFY is issued and you're not
> logged on ?
>
>
> Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
>
> Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
> Banco Bradesco S/A
> 4254/DPCD Alphaville
> Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
>
> Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814
>
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome
> de Angel Tamayo
> Enviada em: domingo, 2 de dezembro de 2007 20:55
> Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Assunto: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on
>
> Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8,
> but
> 5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and
> not logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:
>
> If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if
> I'm not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did
> before upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.
>
> We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'.
> This command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic
> notification as it was working before the upgrade.
>
> I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow instructions,
> could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to
> change to restore the automatic notification ?
>
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Angel Tamayo
> System Programmer
>
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RES: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-04 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Angel,

What message appear in SYSLOG when the NOTIFY is issued and you're not
logged on ? 


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos 

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Banco Bradesco S/A 
4254/DPCD Alphaville 
Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes 
 
Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 


-Mensagem original-
De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome
de Angel Tamayo
Enviada em: domingo, 2 de dezembro de 2007 20:55
Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Assunto: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8,
but
5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and
not logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:

If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if
I'm not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did
before upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.

We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'.
This command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic
notification as it was working before the upgrade.

I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow instructions,
could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to
change to restore the automatic notification ?


Thanks a lot,

Angel Tamayo
System Programmer

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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-03 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Angel,
Are there any messages in the SYSLOG at the point in time where a batch job
would normally execute the NOTIFY?


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Subject: Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

Thanks for your responses.

I have access to the old system in other LPAR and the displays of the
command D IKJTSO,SEND are exactly the same, there is no differences. But in
the LPAR with z/OS 1.7 works and in LPAR with z/OS 1.8 doesn't work the
automatic notification.

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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
Angel,

And did you then check for the system exits that I mentioned?  

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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:02:00 -0500, Angel Tamayo wrote:

>Thanks for your responses.
>
>I have access to the old system in other LPAR and the displays of the
>command D IKJTSO,SEND are exactly the same, there is no differences. But in
>the LPAR with z/OS 1.7 works and in LPAR with z/OS 1.8 doesn't work the
>automatic notification.
>
>
>2007/12/3, Tom Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Angel,
>>
>> If you have access to both the old and new systems, please issue:
>>
>>   D IKJTSO,SEND
>>
>> Review the displays for differences.  If there are no (zero) differences
>> then
>> you might want to see whether the old system was using one (or more) of
>> the
>> IKJEESnn or IKJVSNXn system exits.  (They provide for site modification of
>> SEND, OPERATOR SEND and LISTBC processing.  See z/OS VvRr.0 TSO/E
>> Customization manual for dirty details.)

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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-03 Thread Angel Tamayo
Thanks for your responses.

I have access to the old system in other LPAR and the displays of the
command D IKJTSO,SEND are exactly the same, there is no differences. But in
the LPAR with z/OS 1.7 works and in LPAR with z/OS 1.8 doesn't work the
automatic notification.


2007/12/3, Tom Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Angel,
>
> If you have access to both the old and new systems, please issue:
>
>   D IKJTSO,SEND
>
> Review the displays for differences.  If there are no (zero) differences
> then
> you might want to see whether the old system was using one (or more) of
> the
> IKJEESnn or IKJVSNXn system exits.  (They provide for site modification of
> SEND, OPERATOR SEND and LISTBC processing.  See z/OS VvRr.0 TSO/E
> Customization manual for dirty details.)
>
> If you only have access to the new system, then please issue and post the
> results of the system response to 'D IKJTSO,SEND' and someone will likely
> notice what is (and is not) happening.
>
> --
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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
Angel, 
 
If you have access to both the old and new systems, please issue:
 
  D IKJTSO,SEND
 
Review the displays for differences.  If there are no (zero) differences then 
you might want to see whether the old system was using one (or more) of the 
IKJEESnn or IKJVSNXn system exits.  (They provide for site modification of 
SEND, OPERATOR SEND and LISTBC processing.  See z/OS VvRr.0 TSO/E 
Customization manual for dirty details.)  
 
If you only have access to the new system, then please issue and post the 
results of the system response to 'D IKJTSO,SEND' and someone will likely 
notice what is (and is not) happening.  
 
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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-03 Thread Angel Tamayo
1.- I ran Sync command but there is no change.
2.- I ran Prof command with next output:
 CHAR(0)  LINE(0)PROMPT   INTERCOM   NOPAUSE NOMSGID NOMODE  NOWTPMSG
NORECO
VER PREFIX(ATAMAYO) PLANGUAGE(ENU) SLANGUAGE(ENU)
VARSTORAGE(LOW)
 DEFAULT LINE/CHARACTER DELETE CHARACTERS IN EFFECT FOR THIS
TERMINAL



2007/12/3, Itschak Mugzach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> JES uses TSO / Console SEND command to notify job end. SEND has a
> parameter
> to force logging the message if user is not logged on. If LISTBC returns
> the
> lost messages, then the messages are logged in broadcast. Run PROF command
> to see if your user is in broadcast mode or not.
>
> Itschak
>
>
> Itschak Mugzach, Director
> SecuriTeam Software ltd.
> Tel: +972 (522) 986404
> Skype: Securiteam-Software
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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf
> Of Angel Tamayo
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on
>
> Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8,
> but
> 5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not
> logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:
>
> If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if
> I'm
> not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did before
> upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.
>
> We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'.
> This
> command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic notification
> as
> it was working before the upgrade.
>
> I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow instructions,
> could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to change
> to restore the automatic notification ?
>
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Angel Tamayo
> System Programmer
>
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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-02 Thread Itschak Mugzach
JES uses TSO / Console SEND command to notify job end. SEND has a parameter
to force logging the message if user is not logged on. If LISTBC returns the
lost messages, then the messages are logged in broadcast. Run PROF command
to see if your user is in broadcast mode or not. 

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Subject: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8, but
5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not
logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:

If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if I'm
not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did before
upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.

We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'. This
command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic notification as
it was working before the upgrade.

I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow instructions,
could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to change
to restore the automatic notification ?


Thanks a lot,

Angel Tamayo
System Programmer

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Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-02 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Did you ever sync your BROADCAST dataset on the new system?


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Subject: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8, but
5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not
logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:

If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if I'm
not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did before
upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.

We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'. This
command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic notification as
it was working before the upgrade.

I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow instructions,
could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to change
to restore the automatic notification ?


Thanks a lot,

Angel Tamayo
System Programmer

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TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-02 Thread Angel Tamayo
Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8, but
5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not
logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages:

If I'm logged on when the job finishes, I do receive the notify, but if I'm
not logged on I don't receive it the next time I logon as I did before
upgrade from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8.

We implemented in the LOGON procedure the next command: QCMND 'LISTBC'. This
command is working fine, but I need to restore the automatic notification as
it was working before the upgrade.

I don't know too much about how TSO works but I can follow instructions,
could somebody tell me what do i have to check or what do i have to change
to restore the automatic notification ?


Thanks a lot,

Angel Tamayo
System Programmer

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