Re: WLM and skip clock

2008-07-09 Thread Max Scarpa
Hi Mark, thank you for your reply

I read it in redbook as well but as you said there's no 'direct' reference
to skip clock concept, only a generic delay (skip) as it was considered
useless to help that workload due to unattainable goals. 

Best regards

Max Scarpa

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Re: WLM and skip clock

2008-07-09 Thread Gerhard Adam

In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip
clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when  goals are not reached, 
for

instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them.
In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until
skip clock expires (so I was told).

Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ?






From the WLM Services:


"They are also skipped when a potential receiver's skip clock hasn't 
expired. If a receiver is assessed and all actions to help it are rejected, 
a skip clock (counter) is set and the service class period will not be 
selected as a receiver again until the skip clock expires." 


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Re: WLM and skip clock

2008-07-09 Thread Max Scarpa
Hi Adam

I've found it, thank you very much

Max Scarpa

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Re: WLM and skip clock

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:12:39 -0500, Max Scarpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>(Cross posted)
>
>Esteemed listers
>
>In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip
>clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when  goals are not reached, for
>instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them.
>In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until
>skip clock expires (so I was told).
>
>Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ?
>

Other than a mention of it in the SMF 99 description, I don't think so.  Many
of the WLM internals are not.   I remember seeing something about this in
the (now old) "OS/390 Workload Manager Implementation and Exploitation"
Redbook (SG24-5326-00)... although it didn't say it was the skip clock. The
same thing is in the current Redook "System Programmer’s Guide to: Workload
Manager" (SG24-6472-03):

"Periods for certain service classes are not candidates for being a receiver
because in the past they were defined as receivers without much improvement
in their PI. Those service class periods are skipped for a while to avoid
wasting
effort. This usually only happens when the installation sets a very
difficult goal."

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Mark
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Re: WLM and skip clock

2008-07-09 Thread Gerhard Adam

In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip
clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when  goals are not reached, 
for

instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them.
In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until
skip clock expires (so I was told).

Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ?


Check out the WLM Services manual in the Chapter "Using SMF Record Type 99". 
It's not discussed heavily, but it indicates its use.


Adam 


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WLM and skip clock

2008-07-09 Thread Max Scarpa
(Cross posted)

Esteemed listers

In some past posts, while discussing about WLM, someone introduced 'skip
clock' concept to describe behaviour of wlm when  goals are not reached, for
instance because they are quite high and there isn't enough to boost them.
In this case wlm ignores them (or leaves them with reached velocity) until
skip clock expires (so I was told).  

Is this skip clock concept described somewhere (manuals, papers ) ?  

Thank you in advance

Max Scarpa
Db2 sysprog

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