Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 01/22/2008
   at 04:12 PM, "Van Dalsen, Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I should not ask the question, but do they exist or is it a 'virus'
>inside IBM-MAIN?

Google for "Wheeler Scheduler". Yes, I find the long URL lists and the
repetitive OT paragraphs to be frustrating, but I also find that they
provide a wealth of interesting historical data. I hope that they keep
posting for a long time.
 
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Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Ed Gould]

On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Hardee, Charles H wrote:


Edward,
It may be better asked off list, but I have been wondering the same
thing for a long time as well. Frankly, I'm glad the question was  
asked.

Can anyone offer a definitive answer? Or just speculation?
Chuck

--SNIP-
When I first saw the person posting I thought it was difficult to  
follow. I made a effort in following the posting to go through the  
URL's to better understand the person a little better.  What I found  
was a rich background of information and in the process learned a lot  
about "pre-history" of MVS that I had no idea existed. The person  
actually wrote the code (albeit on the 360 and maybe on the early MVS  
as well) the references are just packed full of information and how/ 
why things occurred and a little but of what you see today. I do not  
follow every URL posted (depending on topic) but a large percentage  
of them.


After a while you get used to the way that the person posts and its  
up to you (if you are interested) to learn what/why things have been  
developed.


I want to thank the person for posting and helping me better  
understand the history of MVS and see why it got to be the best IBM  
OS that ever existed(IMO). You are always free to make up your own  
mind of course but the resource is excellent (IMO) and we should be  
happy that the person is contributing (a lot) to IBM-MAIN.


Ed

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Re: Wheeler Postings

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Brock) writes:
> Here, for instance:
> http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b48?

i.e. also archived here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#25 garlic.com

and some related recent references, also about posting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#65 How does ATTACH pass address of ECB 
to child?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#66 How does ATTACH pass address of ECB 
to child?

now, a post on the subject in the original thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#63 How does ATTACH pass address of ECB 
to child?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#69 How does ATTACH pass address of ECB 
to child?

mentions work on original relational/sql implementation, including
technology transfer to endicott for sql/ds:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr

also mentioned was scaleup for our cluster/distributed high availability 
product:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

one of the people in this (ha/cmp) meeting, previously mentioned
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

says that he handled much of the technology transfer from endicott
(sql/ds) back to STL for DB2.

now two of the other people in that same meeting show up a little later
at a small client/server startup responsible for something called the
commerce server. we were called in to consult because they wanted to do
payment transactions on their server ... and also wanted to use a
technology that had been invented called SSL for the implementation:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

that work is now frequently referred to as electronic commerce.

40yrs since science center installed cp67 at the univ. the last week of
jan68.

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Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Jon Brock]

Here, for instance:
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b4
8?

Jon



Lynn has answered that question a while ago.  Check the archives.  (His
or ibm-main's)


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Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Van Dalsen, Herbie]

Thanks


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Subject: Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB
to child?)

Lynn has answered that question a while ago.  Check the archives.  (His
or ibm-main's)

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Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Tom Schmidt]

Lynn has answered that question a while ago.  Check the archives.  (His or 
ibm-main's)

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Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Van Dalsen, Herbie]

I should not ask the question, but do they exist or is it a 'virus'
inside IBM-MAIN?

Herbie


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hardee, Charles H
Sent: 22 Januarie 2008 04:08 nm
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Subject: Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB
to child?)

Edward,
It may be better asked off list, but I have been wondering the same
thing for a long time as well. Frankly, I'm glad the question was asked.
Can anyone offer a definitive answer? Or just speculation?
Chuck

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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:08 AM
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Subject: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to
child?)

David Logan wrote:
> Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons
posts
> are always so complicated to work through with all of the pieces and
URL
> links? Is it the function of how they are posting (i.e. perhaps online
with
> certain options), or is this a manual effort?
>   

This type of question is best asked off-list, directly the the original 
poster.

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Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Hardee, Charles H]

Edward,
It may be better asked off list, but I have been wondering the same
thing for a long time as well. Frankly, I'm glad the question was asked.
Can anyone offer a definitive answer? Or just speculation?
Chuck

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to
child?)

David Logan wrote:
> Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons
posts
> are always so complicated to work through with all of the pieces and
URL
> links? Is it the function of how they are posting (i.e. perhaps online
with
> certain options), or is this a manual effort?
>   

This type of question is best asked off-list, directly the the original 
poster.

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Phoenix Software International, Inc
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Los Angeles, CA 90045
310-338-0400 x318
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)

[Edward Jaffe]

David Logan wrote:

Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons posts
are always so complicated to work through with all of the pieces and URL
links? Is it the function of how they are posting (i.e. perhaps online with
certain options), or is this a manual effort?
  


This type of question is best asked off-list, directly the the original 
poster.


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