Re: ZOS/E on a Z890

2005-10-20 Thread Marna WALLE
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:01:40 +0200, Meganen Naidoo - BCX - Data Centre
Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,
We have just purchased a Z890 2086-450.
We are trying to run a Z/OS.e 1.4 Lpar on the Z890 and get msg IFA200W with
a wait state 07B rc 17.
Our Lpar name is ZOSEMNT1 and we are using the LICENSE=Z/OSE parameter in
ieasys00.
The message reads as follows:
LICENSE=z/OSe was specified, but you were not on a 2066 (Z800) machine type
on a ZOSE LPAR.

My question is -
can you run Z/OS.e on a Z890 and if so the APARs required.

PSI have raised a software and hardware call with IBM! - awaiting
feedback.

As others have said, make sure you have the right z/OS.e R4 z990 support
installed first...but when you see that wait state, I'd suspect you're
missing UA10655, which is documented in the 2086DEVICE PSP bucket as
required for z/OS.e.  That PTF allows z/OS.e R4 to be IPLed on a z890.

-Marna WALLE
IBM z/OS Build and Install
Poughkeepsie, New York

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Re: ZOS/E on a Z890

2005-10-19 Thread John Eells

Meganen Naidoo - BCX - Data Centre Services wrote:


Hi All,
We have just purchased a Z890 2086-450. 
We are trying to run a Z/OS.e 1.4 Lpar on the Z890 and get msg IFA200W with a wait state 07B rc 17.
Our Lpar name is ZOSEMNT1 and we are using the LICENSE=Z/OSE parameter in ieasys00. 
The message reads as follows:

LICENSE=z/OSe was specified, but you were not on a 2066 (Z800) machine type
on a ZOSE LPAR. 

My question is - 
can you run Z/OS.e on a Z890 and if so the APARs required.



snip

You should be able to run z/OS.e on a z890 if you have one of 
these features installed:


# z/OS.e V1.4 with z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence Update feature
# z/OS.e V1.4 with z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence feature (no 
longer orderable)


If you have a z/OS R4 system and are cloning it (or sharing the 
target volume set) to run z/OS.e, you need one of these instead:


# z/OS V1.4 with z/OS V1.4 z990 Exploitation Support feature
# z/OS V1.4 with z/OS V1.4 z990 Compatibility Support feature (no 
longer orderable)


As always, check the 2066DEVICE PSP for the latest info.

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Re: ZOS/E on a Z890

2005-10-19 Thread Hal Merritt
IMHO, there is only one reason to go to z/os.e, but it is a biggie. The
business case is past a no brainer. Well worth the effort.  

We have been production z/os.e 1.4 on a z890 for months. We have had
some minor issues, but none we can pin on z/os.e exclusively.  

A combination of z/os.e and sub capacity pricing results in some serious
dollar savings. There is a price to pay, but so far we like what we see.


My $0.02

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Westerman
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ZOS/E on a Z890

..snip

There are actually not very many good reasons to go to z/OS.e at version
1.4, there are a lot of problems, and since it's z/OS.e, you have to be
64-bit anyway, so you can't take advantage of the coexistence PTF's with
older versions of OS/390 as much as you could otherwise (with regualr
z/OS).

If you are really set to keep going with V1.4 then you will need to
order
and install the z/OS.e z990 Coexistence Update feature, but I have to
warn
you that because it's an update to the base z/os code, and V1.4 already
is
known to have a lot of problems that are fixed at 1.5 and later.

If you contact me offline, I can discuss this with you and give you ome
good
hints and tips.  I've installed z/OS.e quite a few times now for some of
our
University and small clients, so I can probably talk you through some of
the
pit-falls (there are quite a few).

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ZOS/E on a Z890

2005-10-18 Thread Meganen Naidoo - BCX - Data Centre Services
Hi All,
We have just purchased a Z890 2086-450. 
We are trying to run a Z/OS.e 1.4 Lpar on the Z890 and get msg IFA200W with a 
wait state 07B rc 17.
Our Lpar name is ZOSEMNT1 and we are using the LICENSE=Z/OSE parameter in 
ieasys00. 
The message reads as follows:
LICENSE=z/OSe was specified, but you were not on a 2066 (Z800) machine type
on a ZOSE LPAR. 

My question is - 
can you run Z/OS.e on a Z890 and if so the APARs required.

PSI have raised a software and hardware call with IBM! - awaiting feedback. 
 

Kind Regards,
Meganen Naidoo
Technical Architect: Data Centre Services
Infrastructure - JHB Region
Business Connexion (Pty) Ltd
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Mobile: +27 (0)83 381 9216  
Fax:+27 (0)11 322 5699  
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Re: ZOS/E on a Z890

2005-10-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 11:01 am, Meganen Naidoo - BCX - Data Centre 
Services wrote:
 Hi All,
 We have just purchased a Z890 2086-450.
 We are trying to run a Z/OS.e 1.4 Lpar on the Z890 and get msg IFA200W with
 a wait state 07B rc 17. Our Lpar name is ZOSEMNT1 and we are using the
 LICENSE=Z/OSE parameter in ieasys00. The message reads as follows:
 LICENSE=z/OSe was specified, but you were not on a 2066 (Z800) machine type
 on a ZOSE LPAR.

 My question is -
 can you run Z/OS.e on a Z890 and if so the APARs required.

 PSI have raised a software and hardware call with IBM! - awaiting
 feedback.

Have you checked the 2086 hardware PSP bucket? There may be service required 
for z890 support.

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Re: ZOS/E on a Z890

2005-10-18 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi,

For releases of z/OS.e up to (and including) 1.4 you have to follow note 2
of the Server support page, which states:

z/OS.e V1.4 will run on a z890 with the z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence Update
feature or with the z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence feature (no longer orderable).

or the z/OS.e frequently asked questions manual that states:

z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence feature:
This feature allows z/OS.e V1.4 running on a z800 server to coexist in a
sysplex with a z990 or z890 system. Also, this feature allows z/OS.e V1.4 to
run on a z890 server, but it does not allow z/OS.e V1.4 to exploit the new
z890 functions. This feature does not allow z/OS.e V1.4 to run on a z990
server, but it allows customers to maintain a consistent code base for z/OS
and z/OS.e. This feature is no longer orderable and is replaced by the
z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence Update feature.

z/OS.e V1.4 z990 Coexistence Update feature:.
This feature allows z/OS.e V1.4 to take advantage of new functions provided
by the z890 server. This feature can also be required on coexisting z800
systems. This feature allows customers to maintain a consistent code base
for z/OS and z/OS.e.

Don't be confused that it says z990, it also applies to the z890.  If you
have not gone too far into your install, you would be better off going to a
higher version of Z/OS.e (V1.5 and above doesn't require the Coexistence
feature.).

There are actually not very many good reasons to go to z/OS.e at version
1.4, there are a lot of problems, and since it's z/OS.e, you have to be
64-bit anyway, so you can't take advantage of the coexistence PTF's with
older versions of OS/390 as much as you could otherwise (with regualr z/OS).

If you are really set to keep going with V1.4 then you will need to order
and install the z/OS.e z990 Coexistence Update feature, but I have to warn
you that because it's an update to the base z/os code, and V1.4 already is
known to have a lot of problems that are fixed at 1.5 and later.

If you contact me offline, I can discuss this with you and give you ome good
hints and tips.  I've installed z/OS.e quite a few times now for some of our
University and small clients, so I can probably talk you through some of the
pit-falls (there are quite a few).

Brian

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