zOS under zVM

2012-05-01 Thread Mark Jacobs 
It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next DR 
exercise will be hosted in a VM environment and I'm looking for any 
environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.

I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.

Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service

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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-01 Thread Charles Mills 
FWIW the IBM Dallas Development Center runs multiple (many?) z/OS images
under z/VM.

Charles

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Subject: zOS under zVM

It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next
DR exercise will be hosted in a VM environment and I'm looking for any
environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.

I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.

Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-01 Thread J. Cassidy 
Mark,


done what you describe several times myself.

There is some useful information albeit from an unusual source...


Go a googling and look for sg24-7895-00


Pleasant SysPlexing



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=> It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next
=> DR exercise will be hosted in a VM environment and I'm looking for any
=> environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.
=>
=> I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything
=> else..
=>
=> Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.
=>
=> Mark Jacobs
=> Time Customer Service
=>
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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-02 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz 
Mark,

Here's my doc on the subject...

Mary Anne 

Differences b/w running native LPAR and running as a z/VM guest

In a single system: 

The only issue I’m aware of is some strangeness with your performance monitors. 

In a SYSPLEX: 

--A new CFRM policy is required, specifying SIMDEV for the coupling facility:

  CF NAME(CFCC1
 TYPE(SIMDEV)
 MFG(IBM)
 PLANT(EN)
 SEQUENCE(000CFCC1)
 PARTITION(0)
 CPCID(00)
 DUMPSPACE(2000)

Type Number (TYPE) - SIMDEV specifies that this is a z/VM simulated   message 
device type.
Manufacturer (MFG) - IBM® indicates IBM as the manufacturer.
Plant (PLANT) - EN indicates Endicott as the manufacturing plant.
Sequence # (SEQUENCE) - The 12-byte field will contain the CF Service 
Machine user IDright justified. Pad all leading unused characters with 
EBCDIC zeros. For example, if a CF Service Machine of CFCC1 is specified, 
SEQUENCE is 000CFCC1. Your DR provider may have a different CF name. 


--A different CLOCKxx member may be needed specifying SIMETRID: 

TIMEZONE W.04.00.00
ETRMODE YES
ETRDELTA 10
ETRZONE YES
SIMETRID 00

--Possible CFSizing needed: 

If you are on a processor that has a lower level of CF Code, you may need to 
resize your structures. For example, if your DR provider has a z10 (CFLEVEL 16) 
and you are running on a z9 (CFLEVEL 15), you may need to increase the storage 
size of the CF.


>It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next DR 
>exercise will be hosted in a VM >environment and I'm looking for any 
>environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.

>I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.

>Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.

>Mark Jacobs
>Time Customer Service

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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Jacobs 
Thanks for confirming my own research on the subject.

Regards,

Mark Jacobs

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Anne Matyaz [maryanne4...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:07 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: zOS under zVM

Mark,

Here's my doc on the subject...

Mary Anne

Differences b/w running native LPAR and running as a z/VM guest

In a single system:

The only issue I’m aware of is some strangeness with your performance monitors.

In a SYSPLEX:

--A new CFRM policy is required, specifying SIMDEV for the coupling facility:

  CF NAME(CFCC1
 TYPE(SIMDEV)
 MFG(IBM)
 PLANT(EN)
 SEQUENCE(000CFCC1)
 PARTITION(0)
 CPCID(00)
 DUMPSPACE(2000)

Type Number (TYPE) - SIMDEV specifies that this is a z/VM simulated   message 
device type.
Manufacturer (MFG) - IBM® indicates IBM as the manufacturer.
Plant (PLANT) - EN indicates Endicott as the manufacturing plant.
Sequence # (SEQUENCE) - The 12-byte field will contain the CF Service 
Machine user IDright justified. Pad all leading unused characters with 
EBCDIC zeros. For example, if a CF Service Machine of CFCC1 is specified, 
SEQUENCE is 000CFCC1. Your DR provider may have a different CF name.


--A different CLOCKxx member may be needed specifying SIMETRID:

TIMEZONE W.04.00.00
ETRMODE YES
ETRDELTA 10
ETRZONE YES
SIMETRID 00

--Possible CFSizing needed:

If you are on a processor that has a lower level of CF Code, you may need to 
resize your structures. For example, if your DR provider has a z10 (CFLEVEL 16) 
and you are running on a z9 (CFLEVEL 15), you may need to increase the storage 
size of the CF.


>It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next DR 
>exercise will be hosted in a VM >environment and I'm looking for any 
>environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.

>I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.

>Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.

>Mark Jacobs
>Time Customer Service

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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-02 Thread Gary DiPillo 
I did not see this mentioned, but, if you use BCPII, it will not be available 
in your Guest:

HWI010I BCPII DOES NOT OPERATE ON A VM GUEST. BCPII INITIALIZATION 
IS HALTED. 

If you use BCPII for critical processes you may need a rethink.

> Thanks for confirming my own research on the subject.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark Jacobs
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Mary 
> Anne Matyaz [maryanne4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:07 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: zOS under zVM
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Here's my doc on the subject...
> 
> Mary Anne
> 
> Differences b/w running native LPAR and running as a z/VM guest
> 
> In a single system:
> 
> The only issue I’m aware of is some strangeness with your performance 
> monitors.
> 
> In a SYSPLEX:
> 
> --A new CFRM policy is required, specifying SIMDEV for the coupling facility:
> 
>   CF NAME(CFCC1
>  TYPE(SIMDEV)
>  MFG(IBM)
>  PLANT(EN)
>  SEQUENCE(000CFCC1)
>  PARTITION(0)
>  CPCID(00)
>  DUMPSPACE(2000)
> 
> Type Number (TYPE) - SIMDEV specifies that this is a z/VM simulated   message 
> device type.
> Manufacturer (MFG) - IBM® indicates IBM as the manufacturer.
> Plant (PLANT) - EN indicates Endicott as the manufacturing plant.
> Sequence # (SEQUENCE) - The 12-byte field will contain the CF Service 
> Machine user IDright justified. Pad all leading unused characters with 
> EBCDIC zeros. For example, if a CF Service Machine of CFCC1 is specified, 
> SEQUENCE is 000CFCC1. Your DR provider may have a different CF name.
> 
> 
> --A different CLOCKxx member may be needed specifying SIMETRID:
> 
> TIMEZONE W.04.00.00
> ETRMODE YES
> ETRDELTA 10
> ETRZONE YES
> SIMETRID 00
> 
> --Possible CFSizing needed:
> 
> If you are on a processor that has a lower level of CF Code, you may need to 
> resize your structures. For example, if your DR provider has a z10 (CFLEVEL 
> 16) and you are running on a z9 (CFLEVEL 15), you may need to increase the 
> storage size of the CF.
> 
> 
> >It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next 
> >DR exercise will be hosted in a VM >environment and I'm looking for any 
> >environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.
> 
> >I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.
> 
> >Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> >Mark Jacobs
> >Time Customer Service
> 
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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Jacobs 
We don't, yet. It's only used for XCF sysplex partitioning activities. I'll 
keep it in mind, but I'm not going to worry about it for a DR test.

Mark Jacobs  

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Gary 
DiPillo [gdipi...@axiosproducts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: zOS under zVM

I did not see this mentioned, but, if you use BCPII, it will not be available 
in your Guest:

HWI010I BCPII DOES NOT OPERATE ON A VM GUEST. BCPII INITIALIZATION
IS HALTED.

If you use BCPII for critical processes you may need a rethink.

> Thanks for confirming my own research on the subject.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Jacobs
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Mary 
> Anne Matyaz [maryanne4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:07 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: zOS under zVM
>
> Mark,
>
> Here's my doc on the subject...
>
> Mary Anne
>
> Differences b/w running native LPAR and running as a z/VM guest
>
> In a single system:
>
> The only issue I’m aware of is some strangeness with your performance 
> monitors.
>
> In a SYSPLEX:
>
> --A new CFRM policy is required, specifying SIMDEV for the coupling facility:
>
>   CF NAME(CFCC1
>  TYPE(SIMDEV)
>  MFG(IBM)
>  PLANT(EN)
>  SEQUENCE(000CFCC1)
>  PARTITION(0)
>  CPCID(00)
>  DUMPSPACE(2000)
>
> Type Number (TYPE) - SIMDEV specifies that this is a z/VM simulated   message 
> device type.
> Manufacturer (MFG) - IBM® indicates IBM as the manufacturer.
> Plant (PLANT) - EN indicates Endicott as the manufacturing plant.
> Sequence # (SEQUENCE) - The 12-byte field will contain the CF Service 
> Machine user IDright justified. Pad all leading unused characters with 
> EBCDIC zeros. For example, if a CF Service Machine of CFCC1 is specified, 
> SEQUENCE is 000CFCC1. Your DR provider may have a different CF name.
>
>
> --A different CLOCKxx member may be needed specifying SIMETRID:
>
> TIMEZONE W.04.00.00
> ETRMODE YES
> ETRDELTA 10
> ETRZONE YES
> SIMETRID 00
>
> --Possible CFSizing needed:
>
> If you are on a processor that has a lower level of CF Code, you may need to 
> resize your structures. For example, if your DR provider has a z10 (CFLEVEL 
> 16) and you are running on a z9 (CFLEVEL 15), you may need to increase the 
> storage size of the CF.
>
>
> >It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next 
> >DR exercise will be hosted in a VM >environment and I'm looking for any 
> >environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.
>
> >I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.
>
> >Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.
>
> >Mark Jacobs
> >Time Customer Service
>
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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-02 Thread Scott Ford 
Mark,

Are you going to a hosting DR recovery site , I.e.; Sungard ..
If so, they also usually are pretty good to help out..


Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com



On May 2, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Mark Jacobs  wrote:

> We don't, yet. It's only used for XCF sysplex partitioning activities. I'll 
> keep it in mind, but I'm not going to worry about it for a DR test.
> 
> Mark Jacobs  
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Gary 
> DiPillo [gdipi...@axiosproducts.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: zOS under zVM
> 
> I did not see this mentioned, but, if you use BCPII, it will not be available 
> in your Guest:
> 
> HWI010I BCPII DOES NOT OPERATE ON A VM GUEST. BCPII INITIALIZATION
> IS HALTED.
> 
> If you use BCPII for critical processes you may need a rethink.
> 
>> Thanks for confirming my own research on the subject.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mark Jacobs
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Mary 
>> Anne Matyaz [maryanne4...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:07 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: zOS under zVM
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> Here's my doc on the subject...
>> 
>> Mary Anne
>> 
>> Differences b/w running native LPAR and running as a z/VM guest
>> 
>> In a single system:
>> 
>> The only issue I’m aware of is some strangeness with your performance 
>> monitors.
>> 
>> In a SYSPLEX:
>> 
>> --A new CFRM policy is required, specifying SIMDEV for the coupling facility:
>> 
>>  CF NAME(CFCC1
>> TYPE(SIMDEV)
>> MFG(IBM)
>> PLANT(EN)
>> SEQUENCE(000CFCC1)
>> PARTITION(0)
>> CPCID(00)
>> DUMPSPACE(2000)
>> 
>> Type Number (TYPE) - SIMDEV specifies that this is a z/VM simulated   
>> message device type.
>>Manufacturer (MFG) - IBM® indicates IBM as the manufacturer.
>>Plant (PLANT) - EN indicates Endicott as the manufacturing plant.
>>Sequence # (SEQUENCE) - The 12-byte field will contain the CF Service 
>> Machine user IDright justified. Pad all leading unused characters with 
>> EBCDIC zeros. For example, if a CF Service Machine of CFCC1 is specified, 
>> SEQUENCE is 000CFCC1. Your DR provider may have a different CF name.
>> 
>> 
>> --A different CLOCKxx member may be needed specifying SIMETRID:
>> 
>> TIMEZONE W.04.00.00
>> ETRMODE YES
>> ETRDELTA 10
>> ETRZONE YES
>> SIMETRID 00
>> 
>> --Possible CFSizing needed:
>> 
>> If you are on a processor that has a lower level of CF Code, you may need to 
>> resize your structures. For example, if your DR provider has a z10 (CFLEVEL 
>> 16) and you are running on a z9 (CFLEVEL 15), you may need to increase the 
>> storage size of the CF.
>> 
>> 
>>> It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next 
>>> DR exercise will be hosted in a VM >environment and I'm looking for any 
>>> environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.
>> 
>>> I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.
>> 
>>> Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>>> Mark Jacobs
>>> Time Customer Service
>> 
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Re: zOS under zVM

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Jacobs 
Yes. We've asked them for any FAQ documentation that they might have for setup 
activities.

Mark Jacobs

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Ford [scott_j_f...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:25 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: zOS under zVM

Mark,

Are you going to a hosting DR recovery site , I.e.; Sungard ..
If so, they also usually are pretty good to help out..


Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com



On May 2, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Mark Jacobs  wrote:

> We don't, yet. It's only used for XCF sysplex partitioning activities. I'll 
> keep it in mind, but I'm not going to worry about it for a DR test.
>
> Mark Jacobs
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Gary 
> DiPillo [gdipi...@axiosproducts.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: zOS under zVM
>
> I did not see this mentioned, but, if you use BCPII, it will not be available 
> in your Guest:
>
> HWI010I BCPII DOES NOT OPERATE ON A VM GUEST. BCPII INITIALIZATION
> IS HALTED.
>
> If you use BCPII for critical processes you may need a rethink.
>
>> Thanks for confirming my own research on the subject.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Jacobs
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Mary 
>> Anne Matyaz [maryanne4...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:07 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: zOS under zVM
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Here's my doc on the subject...
>>
>> Mary Anne
>>
>> Differences b/w running native LPAR and running as a z/VM guest
>>
>> In a single system:
>>
>> The only issue I’m aware of is some strangeness with your performance 
>> monitors.
>>
>> In a SYSPLEX:
>>
>> --A new CFRM policy is required, specifying SIMDEV for the coupling facility:
>>
>>  CF NAME(CFCC1
>> TYPE(SIMDEV)
>> MFG(IBM)
>> PLANT(EN)
>> SEQUENCE(000CFCC1)
>> PARTITION(0)
>> CPCID(00)
>> DUMPSPACE(2000)
>>
>> Type Number (TYPE) - SIMDEV specifies that this is a z/VM simulated   
>> message device type.
>>Manufacturer (MFG) - IBM® indicates IBM as the manufacturer.
>>Plant (PLANT) - EN indicates Endicott as the manufacturing plant.
>>Sequence # (SEQUENCE) - The 12-byte field will contain the CF Service 
>> Machine user IDright justified. Pad all leading unused characters with 
>> EBCDIC zeros. For example, if a CF Service Machine of CFCC1 is specified, 
>> SEQUENCE is 000CFCC1. Your DR provider may have a different CF name.
>>
>>
>> --A different CLOCKxx member may be needed specifying SIMETRID:
>>
>> TIMEZONE W.04.00.00
>> ETRMODE YES
>> ETRDELTA 10
>> ETRZONE YES
>> SIMETRID 00
>>
>> --Possible CFSizing needed:
>>
>> If you are on a processor that has a lower level of CF Code, you may need to 
>> resize your structures. For example, if your DR provider has a z10 (CFLEVEL 
>> 16) and you are running on a z9 (CFLEVEL 15), you may need to increase the 
>> storage size of the CF.
>>
>>
>>> It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next 
>>> DR exercise will be hosted in a VM >environment and I'm looking for any 
>>> environmental setup concerns that I need to consider.
>>
>>> I know that we'll have to change LOADxx, but I'm unsure about anything else.
>>
>>> Any advice on what I have to do would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>> Mark Jacobs
>>> Time Customer Service
>>
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Re: zOS under zVM - Correction

2012-05-01 Thread J. Cassidy 
Correction: sg24-7895-00 should read sg24-7859-00

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Re: z/OS under z/VM was zOS under zVM

2012-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
In
<57bd3bf9a8a03b4f9867ccbebbc7deaa04bd3...@tmpexchmb06.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com>,
on 05/01/2012
   at 01:04 PM, Mark Jacobs  said:

>It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. 
>Our next DR exercise will be hosted in a VM environment and I'm 
>looking for any environmental setup concerns that I need to 
>consider.

Ensure that none of your licensed software has a problem with the FF
in the CPUID.
 
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