Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

[David Crayford]

On 31/07/2012 12:09 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:

On 7/24/2012 9:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:05:00 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:


:>Why have such a special list rather than merely verifying that the 
program

:>resides in an APF authorized library and was linked with AC=1?

Because a program expecting to be a job-step task may be spoofable, 
allocate

storage in a key where parallel tasks can update it, etc.

Sigh.  I keep forgetting (wishful thinking?) what a primitive OS z/OS 
is;

that it provides no simple way a program can protect its storage from
meddling by others.  z/OS still thinks it's running on a s/360.

-- gil


Paul,

I never saw an answer from you regarding my question for some examples
of how other non-primitive OS's provide a "simple way a program can
protect its storage from meddling by others"




Off the top of my head thread-local-storage 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread-local_storage.

On POSIX systems mprotect(), pthread_getspecfic()/setspefic().

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Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

[Steve Comstock]

On 7/24/2012 9:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:05:00 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:


:>Why have such a special list rather than merely verifying that the program
:>resides in an APF authorized library and was linked with AC=1?

Because a program expecting to be a job-step task may be spoofable, allocate
storage in a key where parallel tasks can update it, etc.


Sigh.  I keep forgetting (wishful thinking?) what a primitive OS z/OS is;
that it provides no simple way a program can protect its storage from
meddling by others.  z/OS still thinks it's running on a s/360.

-- gil


Paul,

I never saw an answer from you regarding my question for some examples
of how other non-primitive OS's provide a "simple way a program can
protect its storage from meddling by others"


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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 29 Jul 2012 to 30 Jul 2012 (#2012-212)

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Table of contents:
 
* Unix file system - space release question (5) 
* INFO IBM-MAIN 
* Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader! 
(14) 
* Fwd: improve IO scheduling to MFNetDisk emulated 3390 disks 
* Top posting (5) 
* ShopZseries unavailable? 
* Odd request: anyone know of where I might find a 4361 or a 4381? (2) 
* Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots? (2) 
* FTPS windows client (5) 
* Some IBM internet IP addresses changing on 26 Aug 2012 
* Using SSH or SCP in REXX under TSO 
* IEFACTRT changed in z/os 1.13 was: Drowning in service units on z/os 1.13 
after migrating from v1.11 (2) 
* 6 Member Parallel Sysplex - timezone 
 
1. Unix file system - space release question 
  * Unix file system - space release question (07/30)
From: "NAIDOO, Raleigh"  
  * Re: Unix file system - space release question (07/30)
From: Miklos Szigetvari  
  * Re: Unix file system - space release question (07/30)
From: "McKown, John"  
  * Re: Unix file system - space release question (07/30)
From: Paul Gilmartin  
  * Re: Unix file system - space release question (07/30)
From: Paul Gilmartin  
2. INFO IBM-MAIN 
  * INFO IBM-MAIN (07/30)
From: kumar Podila  
3. Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! 
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: Lindy Mayfield  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: Paul Gilmartin  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: zMan  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: Phil Smith  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: John Gilmore  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: Ron Hawkins  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: "Joel C. Ewing"  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: "Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS]"  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: John Gilmore  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: Bill Fairchild  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: John Gilmore  
  * Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card 
reader! (07/30)
From: zMan  
4. Fwd: improve IO scheduling to MFNetDisk emulated 3390 disks 
  * Fwd: improve IO scheduling to MFNetDisk emulated 3390 disks (07/30)
From: shai hess  
5. Top posting 
  * Re: Top posting (07/30)
From: Elardus Engelbrecht  
  * Re: Top posting (07/30)
From: "McKown, John"  
  * Re: Top posting (07/30)
From: Mark Zelden  
  * Re: Top posting (07/30)
From: Paul Gilmartin  
  * Re: Top posting (07/30)
From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"  
6. ShopZseries unavailable? 
  * ShopZseries unavailable? (07/30)
From: "Staller, Allan"  
7. Odd request: anyone know of where I might find a 4361 or a 4381? 
  * Re: Odd request: anyone know of where I might find a 4361 or a 4381? (07/30)
From: William Donzelli  
  * Re: Odd request: anyone know of where I might find a 4361 or a 4381? (07/30)
From: Ed Finnell  
8. Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots? 
  * Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots? (07/30)
From: Ken Porowski  
  * Re: Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots? (07/30)
From: "Blaicher, Christopher Y."  
9. FTPS windows client 
  * FTPS windows client (07/30)
From: Juan Mautalen  
  * Re: FTPS windows client (07/30)
From: Rob Schramm  
  * Re: FTPS windows client (07/30)
From: "Gibney, Dave"  
  * Re: FTPS windows client (07/30)
From: Frank Swarbrick  
  * Re: FTPS windows client (07/30)
From: Steve Bireley  
10. Some IBM internet IP addresses changing on 26 Aug 2012 
  * Re: Some IBM internet IP addresses changing on 26 Aug 2012 (07/30)
From: Clark Morris  
11. Using SSH or SCP in REXX under TSO 
  * Re: Using SSH or SCP in REXX under TSO (07/30)
From: Uriel Carrasquilla  
12. 

Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[zMan]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:

> Was what universally true.


What he quoted, using your precious non-top-posting. Sheesh. If you're
gonna preach it, learn to use it.
-- 
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Re: 6 Member Parallel Sysplex - timezone

[Ruegsegger, Jeff]

Mike,
Thanks for the post.  I don't have TECH Q&A support.  I've asked our IBM rep to 
see if they can get the HSM question answered.

Will check into the RMM configurations

Regards,
jeff

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Re: IEFACTRT changed in z/os 1.13 was: Drowning in service units on z/os 1.13 after migrating from v1.11

[Gerhard Adam]

Doesn't "backing out" normally refer to restoring a module to remove a
problem?  In this case, it would be to restore the problem.  

There is no valid reason for such an action.


>If you feel you must back it out, just *reverse* the following code change
>in IEFACTRT (text from APAR OA31624):

>LOCAL FIX:
>  Reassemble the exit and change the label under the
>   GET INFORMATION FROM PERFORMANCE SECTION
>  from
>   LGR01,SMF30SRB_L  GET SERVICE UNITS USED
>  to
>   LGR01,SMF30SRV_L  GET SERVICE UNITS USED

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Re: IEFACTRT changed in z/os 1.13 was: Drowning in service units on z/os 1.13 after migrating from v1.11

[Dick Bond]

If you feel you must back it out, just *reverse* the following code change
in IEFACTRT (text from APAR OA31624):

LOCAL FIX:
  Reassemble the exit and change the label under the
   GET INFORMATION FROM PERFORMANCE SECTION
  from
   LGR01,SMF30SRB_L  GET SERVICE UNITS USED
  to
   LGR01,SMF30SRV_L  GET SERVICE UNITS USED


On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jim Mooney
 wrote:

Well, after a review of smf30 records we find that those here who mentioned
> IEFACTRT win the gold (even though the open cermonies don't start until
> later tonight in London).  The IBM supplied sample member IEEACTRT for z/os
> 1.13 has changed the calculation for service units.  The v1.11 exit
>  'service units' included only SRB time, while the v1.13 exit 'service
> units' include TCB, SRB, I/O and MSO. Here is the comment from the source
> that indicates there has been a change:
>
> */*$P7= OA31624  HBB7770 100128 PDRJ: IEEACTRT USING WRONG FIELD @P7A*/
> */*   FOR TOTAL SERVICE UNITS@P7A*/
> */*   (SUG APAR) @P7A*/
>
> So those using the vanilla IEFACTRT should expect this new calculation.
>
> As for us, we continue chasing the other half of this issue - increased
> wait times for our batch jobs.  We have been here before. We were cpu
> constrained on z/os v1.11.  Two months ago we took several measures to
> improve our batch 'window'. And now, after upgrading to v1.13 (with no hdwr
> or memory changes) we have again become a bit more cpu constrained.
>
> This is my theory: z/os v1.13 = more overhead.
>
> Does anyone here claim that we should be observing *less* overhead on
> v1.13 compared to v1.11?
>
> Thx again for the excellent guidance. -Jim
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Re: Using SSH or SCP in REXX under TSO

[Uriel Carrasquilla]

Hi Kirk.
My company is in the process of getting rid of zOS.
By July 1, 2014, there will be no more z10 (zVM will be gone by July 1, 2013).
I accomplished what I needed to do.
Thank you for your help.
Yours truly,
Uriel


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Kirk Wolf [k...@dovetail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Using SSH or SCP in REXX under TSO

Uriel,

z/OS is a great environment, it is a pity that your z/OS system has been
"stabilized".

FWIW, Co:Z is offered under two licensing models:

1) the free Community License
2) an enterprise license and support agreement

See: http://dovetail.com/support.html

Several of the largest financial institutions in the world are enterprise
customers.   Please contact me offline if you need more information.

Regards,

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Uriel Carrasquilla <
uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:

> Hi John.
> Great suggestion.
> For me to get Co:Z I would need to register Dovetail as a vendor even if
> we pay nothing.
> That would require a complete check on the company.
> Think about all the checks a bank wants to do on you when you request a
> $1m loan.
> Then I would need authorization from finance that the licenses and
> financial arrangements are the best we can get.
> Finance will ask me to review three options and present them all to them
> for a decision.
> I will then have to take the product to an IT review committee, mostly
> architects.
> At that point they will tell me that nothing new can be installed on the
> MF since it is off-limit.
> All new applications go on the Unix or Windows platform.
> I agree, Co:Z looks like a terrific product.  I had read the manual a few
> months back.
> So I need to do my task with what I have.
> Cheers,
> Uri
>
>

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Re: FTPS windows client

[Steve Bireley]

A few people mentioned BlueZone FTP, so I am replying with specifics. 

It is free and you can download it from bluezone.rocketsoftware.com.

It supports text-based automation so you can create BlueZone Transfer List and 
execute them from within the GUI or pass the transfer list filename as a 
command line switch.  The online help has the information about how to use 
those features.

It works well with the Z/OS files system and has support for the CO:Z SSH Server

You can email me off the list if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Steve Bireley
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Research and Development
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Re: Some IBM internet IP addresses changing on 26 Aug 2012

[Clark Morris]

On 29 Jul 2012 19:21:56 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>In , on 07/27/2012
>   at 09:27 AM, Clark Morris  said:
>
>>I would agree so that is why I question the changing of IP addresses.
>
>Are you saying that you don't see why there might be a need to
>reconfigure firewalls after changing if IPv4 addresses?

I am saying that I see no need for IBM to change from 1 V4 address to
another when such change could cause customers to have to change
firewall configuration(s) or in any other way cause customer
inconvenience.  Any change of address (URL or IP) on the part of IBM
can and probably will cause problems for at least some customers and
therefore IBM should avoid doing so if at all possible. 

Clark Morris
>
>>If it was from V4 to V6,
>
>Changing from one IPv4 address to another is enough to potentially
>raise firewall issues. 

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[John Gilmore]

I agree with much of what Bill says, but I must also correct a serious
error I made.  Where I wrote Knuth in my earlier post I shold have
written [Willard van Orman] Quine.  Knuth is an eminent mathematician
and computer scientist.  He is not a logician, philosopher, or
linguist.

I think the major difference between my views and Bill's is that mine
are descriptive and his are prescriptive.  I was trying to describe
the world as I see it, and he was describing the way he would like it
to be.

I have now said all that I think I can usefully say about this topic.

On 7/30/12, Bill Fairchild  wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of John Gilmore
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:30 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column
> punched card reader!
>
>> Knuth recounts an anecdote, in his book 'Quiddities', of listening to
>> learn whether a speaker at a scientific meeting would use the word 'data'
>> in the singular or the plural.  Its use in the singular was disqualifying.
>>  Knuth listened no more.
>
>>Now it is certainly possible to disagree with Knuth, to judge that usage
>> amply justifies, even sanctifies, the use of 'data' in the singular.
>> Knuth was nevertheless a towering figure, one of the greatest logicians,
>> philosophers, and, yes, linguists of the 20th century; and his judgments
>> were consequential.
>
>>There were and are circumstances in which ignoring the judgments of
> such figures would be foolhardy.   It is possible to stigmatize them
> as élitist, but doing so does not make them inconsequential.
>
> I do know that "data" is the nominative and accusative plural form of the
> singular Latin noun "datum", and should require a plural form of any
> associated verb IN CORRECT LATIN, but I have heard "data is" my whole life
> when listening to conversational English (not Latin), find "data are" to
> sound strange, and have learned to accept both forms in other people's
> speech.  I have also learned to ignore, as horrifying as it is to my ears,
> the British use of a plural verb with a singular subject, such as "Her
> Majesty's Government are inclined to..." or "the Australian swimming team
> are slightly ahead in the Olympic finals."  I can understand their
> perfectionistic concern for their language, but I cannot understand their
> bloody inconsistency when they require "data are" and also "government are."
>  Perhaps it all boils down to whether one feels that the subject (data,
> government, team, etc.) is singular or plural.  I can comfortably imagine
> that "data" could be singular if one is thinking of all the data as a whole
> data set rather than all the millions of little individual datums.  My
> concept of "water" subsumes the entire Atlantic Ocean as well as a single
> molecule of H2O.  When I hear or read a subject-verb inconsistency, I
> experience a brief blip in the continuously parsing and proofreading
> microcircuity in my brain, I remember where the speaker or writer learned
> his English, and I move on in my mind to reconnect with the topic being
> discussed.
>
> If the eminent American (and not British) Knuth had continued listening
> after disqualifying a speaker, he might have learned a lot more about
> everything, including modesty and patience.  Just as you recommended that
> one should learn when to use and when not to use one's own native dialect, I
> would suggest that one should also know when to require and when not to
> require a speaker to speak perfectly according to one's own parochial set of
> perceived grammar rules.  There were and are circumstances in which ignoring
> the rest of a speech at a scientific meeting, after one's sense of
> grammatically required constructs is first outraged, might not be wise or
> inconsequential.  I can imagine someone's shouting "Everybody get out!  The
> building are on fire!" in a scientific meeting and all the elitists remain
> seated while the subliterate escape with their lives.
>
> Bill Fairchild
> Programmer
> Rocket Software
> 408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA
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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Bill Fairchild]

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Gilmore
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched 
card reader!

> Knuth recounts an anecdote, in his book 'Quiddities', of listening to learn 
> whether a speaker at a scientific meeting would use the word 'data' in the 
> singular or the plural.  Its use in the singular was disqualifying.  Knuth 
> listened no more.

>Now it is certainly possible to disagree with Knuth, to judge that usage amply 
>justifies, even sanctifies, the use of 'data' in the singular.  Knuth was 
>nevertheless a towering figure, one of the greatest logicians, philosophers, 
>and, yes, linguists of the 20th century; and his judgments were consequential.

>There were and are circumstances in which ignoring the judgments of
such figures would be foolhardy.   It is possible to stigmatize them
as élitist, but doing so does not make them inconsequential.

I do know that "data" is the nominative and accusative plural form of the 
singular Latin noun "datum", and should require a plural form of any associated 
verb IN CORRECT LATIN, but I have heard "data is" my whole life when listening 
to conversational English (not Latin), find "data are" to sound strange, and 
have learned to accept both forms in other people's speech.  I have also 
learned to ignore, as horrifying as it is to my ears, the British use of a 
plural verb with a singular subject, such as "Her Majesty's Government are 
inclined to..." or "the Australian swimming team are slightly ahead in the 
Olympic finals."  I can understand their perfectionistic concern for their 
language, but I cannot understand their bloody inconsistency when they require 
"data are" and also "government are."  Perhaps it all boils down to whether one 
feels that the subject (data, government, team, etc.) is singular or plural.  I 
can comfortably imagine that "data" could be singular if one is thinking of all 
the data as a whole data set rather than all the millions of little individual 
datums.  My concept of "water" subsumes the entire Atlantic Ocean as well as a 
single molecule of H2O.  When I hear or read a subject-verb inconsistency, I 
experience a brief blip in the continuously parsing and proofreading 
microcircuity in my brain, I remember where the speaker or writer learned his 
English, and I move on in my mind to reconnect with the topic being discussed.

If the eminent American (and not British) Knuth had continued listening after 
disqualifying a speaker, he might have learned a lot more about everything, 
including modesty and patience.  Just as you recommended that one should learn 
when to use and when not to use one's own native dialect, I would suggest that 
one should also know when to require and when not to require a speaker to speak 
perfectly according to one's own parochial set of perceived grammar rules.  
There were and are circumstances in which ignoring the rest of a speech at a 
scientific meeting, after one's sense of grammatically required constructs is 
first outraged, might not be wise or inconsequential.  I can imagine someone's 
shouting "Everybody get out!  The building are on fire!" in a scientific 
meeting and all the elitists remain seated while the subliterate escape with 
their lives.

Bill Fairchild
Programmer
Rocket Software
408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA
t: +1.617.614.4503 .  e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com . w: 
www.rocketsoftware.com

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Re: FTPS windows client

[Frank Swarbrick]

MOVEit Freely 5.5.0.0 - Secure FTP Client.
  http://www.ipswitchft.com/moveitfreely




>
> From: Juan Mautalen 
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:41 PM
>Subject: FTPS windows client
> 
>Hi:
>
>i am looking for a Windows FTP client to connect to a z/OS FTP server. It must 
>have:
>
>- SSL support (our z/OS FTP server is configured to only accept secure 
>connections over SSL).
>
>- MVS datasets support (not just z/OS Unix files).
>
>- Free.
>
>- Line command interface. It should be able to read commands from a txt 
>windows file.
>
>Are you aware of any such program?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>JUAN MAUTALEN
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Re: Odd request: anyone know of where I might find a 4361 or a 4381?

[Ed Finnell]

I was thinking maybe GSA or some of the OEM's that used 43xx's  internally.
MASSTOR comes to mind, but I haven't seen one of those for ages.
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2012 2:05:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
wdonze...@gmail.com writes:

seen two  4381s pop up (both went to Europe), and a 4331. At this
point, you will  need a bunch of good old fashion luck and  legwork

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Re: FTPS windows client

[Gibney, Dave]

Filezilla, Bluezone and MoveItfreely

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Juan Mautalen
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: FTPS windows client
> 
> Hi:
> 
> i am looking for a Windows FTP client to connect to a z/OS FTP server. It must
> have:
> 
> - SSL support (our z/OS FTP server is configured to only accept secure
> connections over SSL).
> 
> - MVS datasets support (not just z/OS Unix files).
> 
> - Free.
> 
> - Line command interface. It should be able to read commands from a txt
> windows file.
> 
> Are you aware of any such program?
> 
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Re: FTPS windows client

[Rob Schramm]

Bluezone, Filezilla and CoreFTP will work on a vanilla network
configuration.  WS-SCP will work for hfs/zfs files but not on mvs data
sets.

If you have a firewall that addresses are being NAT'd, then Bluezone
will work but I have had no success with either Filezilla or CoreFTP.
>From the threads on the Filezilla forums, it appears that the
Filezilla developers seem to be on a kick that does not include
extended passive support.

I am unsure about the txt interface for Bluezone, Filezilla or CoreFTP.

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Juan Mautalen  wrote:
> Hi:
>
> i am looking for a Windows FTP client to connect to a z/OS FTP server. It 
> must have:
>
> - SSL support (our z/OS FTP server is configured to only accept secure 
> connections over SSL).
>
> - MVS datasets support (not just z/OS Unix files).
>
> - Free.
>
> - Line command interface. It should be able to read commands from a txt 
> windows file.
>
> Are you aware of any such program?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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Re: Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots?

[Blaicher, Christopher Y.]

A quick answer is to just count REAL.  AUX stays because it doesn't know if the 
page it represents was modified.  Let's just take a single page.

It gets paged out.  Sometime later it gets paged back in.  If it become a 
candidate for page stealing again, and it hasn't been modified, it just gets 
stolen.  This way paging is reduced and AUX manager is mostly kept out of it.

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Subject: Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots?

If I want to know the working set size of a task can I just add real storage 
frames in use and aux slots in use?

Or is an aux slot not released until freemain or end of task?

For example taskA is using 100 real storage frames then gets swapped out so 100 
aux slots are used then is swapped back in.  Do I now have 100 real frames and 
100 aux slots? Yes I know that not all 100 frames would be sent to aux, just 
trying to keep the example simple.

I am attempting to track gradual storage growth across many tasks.  Up until 
last week we never paged so aux in use was zero for most asids.
Something happened (not sure what yet) and lots of asids were stolen from with 
resulting usage of aux.  Now when I add real + aux I see much higher allocation 
than before aux usage.

TIA

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FTPS windows client

[Juan Mautalen]

Hi:

i am looking for a Windows FTP client to connect to a z/OS FTP server. It must 
have:

- SSL support (our z/OS FTP server is configured to only accept secure 
connections over SSL).

- MVS datasets support (not just z/OS Unix files).

- Free.

- Line command interface. It should be able to read commands from a txt windows 
file.

Are you aware of any such program?

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[John Gilmore]

Of such distinctions as that between 'iced tea' and 'ice tea' Phil Smith writes:

| And not worth debating, as such...folks understand you either way!

This view is the predominant one among usage-preoccupied linguists.
Usage, by anyone, legitimates [almost] any construct

In fact, however, things are otherwise.  Two examples will help to
make clear what I mean.

Many American blacks say 'aksed' where I say 'asked'.  Now this is not
an error.  It is a dialectal variant.  There is an important  sense in
which 'aksed' is every bit as legitimate as 'asked', and there are
contexts in which it is literally unremarkable.

Still, the heard-out-of-context use of 'aksed' can be disqualifying.
American blacks who wish to function effectively in some contexts--It
is open to them to have no such wish--need to speak different,
appropriate dialects in different situations; and many of them do so
routinely and all but reflexively.

Or again, Knuth recounts an anecdote, in his book 'Quiddities', of
listening to learn whether a speaker at a scientific meeting would use
the word 'data' in the singular or the plural.  Its use in the
singular was disqualifying.  Knuth listened no more.

Now it is certainly possible to disagree with Knuth, to judge that
usage amply justifies, even sanctifies, the use of 'data' in the
singular.  Knuth was nevertheless a towering figure, one of the
greatest logicians, philosophers, and, yes, linguists of the 20th
century; and his judgments were consequential.

There were and are circumstances in which ignoring the judgments of
such figures would be foolhardy.   It is possible to stigmatize them
as élitist, but doing so does not make them inconsequential.

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Working Set = Real Frames + Aux Slots?

[Ken Porowski]

If I want to know the working set size of a task can I just add real
storage frames in use and aux slots in use?

Or is an aux slot not released until freemain or end of task?

For example taskA is using 100 real storage frames then gets swapped out
so 100 aux slots are used then is swapped back in.  Do I now have 100
real frames and 100 aux slots? Yes I know that not all 100 frames would
be sent to aux, just trying to keep the example simple.

I am attempting to track gradual storage growth across many tasks.  Up
until last week we never paged so aux in use was zero for most asids.
Something happened (not sure what yet) and lots of asids were stolen
from with resulting usage of aux.  Now when I add real + aux I see much
higher allocation than before aux usage.

TIA

Ken Porowski


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Re: Odd request: anyone know of where I might find a 4361 or a 4381?

[William Donzelli]

> Totally off the wall request, but I've been contacted by a museum to try to 
> locate a 4361 or 4381 CPU and console terminal. Slight preference for the 
> 4361 because of the integrated 3270 and ICA adapters, but either will do.

This will be tough. It seems the big purge of 43xx hardware from the
used market was about 10 or 15 years ago.  Since then, I have only
seen two 4381s pop up (both went to Europe), and a 4331. At this
point, you will need a bunch of good old fashion luck and legwork.

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <8848452157165904.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on
07/30/2012
   at 09:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin  said:

>Was that uniformly true?

Was what universally true. I don't know of any S/360 card equipment
that used nonstandard CCW opcodes for read and punch. If you're
extending it to any other product line then all bets are off. In
particular, there were devices that did only column binary or only row
binary.

I don't recall whether column binary on the 2501 and 2540 was a
standard feature or a priced option. I'm pretty sure it was standard
on the 3505.

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Re: Top posting

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
<8693414129914945.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu>,
on 07/30/2012
   at 05:48 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
said:

>Just curious, while I agree 100% with what you wrote, where is 
>that standard written? I seem to recall that in a previous thread, 
>that standard was mentioned, but could not find it.

The first place I'd look is
.

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf17f90...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com>,
on 07/30/2012
   at 09:28 AM, Lindy Mayfield  said:

>For me, "punched card" isn't quite as easy to pronounce as "punch
>card", but I have some difficulties saying "iced tea".  Perhaps "ice'
>tea" would be more a more accurate representation.

I don't see it; iced tea is tea that already has ice cubes in it, or
at least has already been cooled, not tea that you intend to ice.

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Re: Top posting

[Paul Gilmartin]

Synthesizing a compromise:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:42:02 -0500, Mark Zelden  wrote:
>
>Sorry, I use the web interface and I still hate (is that too strong a word) 
>top posting.
>I naturally read from the top down and scrolling down, reading, then scrolling 
>up,
>while scrolling down again to read a post, then scrolling up again gets me 
>dizzy.
> 
I use NoScript to disable scripts as much as feasible, in a vain
attempt to send a message to web authors (who are making it
ever less feasible.)  So I don't see mouseovers.  Except I see
(some of) xkcd's mousovers.  How?

I enabled scripts for ua.edu.  Still no mouseovers.  Something
in Preferences?  (LISTSERV's or Firefox's?)

Wouldn't it be neat if LISTSERV provided a synopsis option, either
as an auxiliary text entry box, or by markup in the message body?
But this effect might be achieved by top-posting a synopsis, then
reverting to "interspersed bottom-posting" for the remainder of
the ply.

-- gil

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS]]

We called 'em vanilla 5081's  (meaning manila, versus the pink, green,
blue, etc. other colors we had).

Were I come from the ice(d) in tea is redundant - we just say sweet or
un-sweet tea. 

'course, I'm from Georgia (the US one)

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Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column
punched card reader!

My recollection is that in the era of punched cards the more common
usage by programmers/operators was just "card", "cards", or "card deck" 
and others more often than not called them "IBM cards" because typically
"IBM" was printed somewhere on the cards and people understood they were
associated with IBM computers.  Adding a modifier of "punch", "punched" 
or "punchable" in the context of typical discussions would have been
totally redundant and wasted effort because other types of cards didn't
make sense in the context of IBM unit record equipment.

Today when knowledge of the old unit record context can't be assumed, I
think there is a legitimate argument for both "punch card" (a card
intended for use in IBM "card punch" equipment) and "punched card" (a
card in which holes could be or have been punched).  It seems unduly
limiting to insist that the modifier could not be a descriptor of the
device for which the card was intended (and the official names of those
devices were indeed something like "model  Card Punch").  The
meanings are subtly different, but I see both as able to convey the
concept of a punched/punchable card that was punched using IBM Card
Punch unit record equipment.

"Iced Tea" is no doubt a lost cause, because when said quickly the "d" 
and "t" merge and listeners only hear "ice tea" no matter what -- and
"tea with ice" is just too much to say when you're thirsty:)
 Joel C. Ewing

On 07/30/2012 10:11 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
> English can be wielded with great precision; but it, and American 
> English in particular, often is not.  The term 'ice tea' has now, for 
> example, largely supplanted 'iced tea' among the subliterate; etc., 
> etc., ad nauseam.
>
> When punched cards were in wide use 'punch cards' was avoided, but 
> those who wish to use 'punch cards' are of course free to do so, as I 
> am free to deprecate it.
>
> --jg
>
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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Joel C. Ewing]

My recollection is that in the era of punched cards the more common 
usage by programmers/operators was just "card", "cards", or "card deck" 
and others more often than not called them "IBM cards" because typically 
"IBM" was printed somewhere on the cards and people understood they were 
associated with IBM computers.  Adding a modifier of "punch", "punched" 
or "punchable" in the context of typical discussions would have been 
totally redundant and wasted effort because other types of cards didn't 
make sense in the context of IBM unit record equipment.


Today when knowledge of the old unit record context can't be assumed, I 
think there is a legitimate argument for both "punch card" (a card 
intended for use in IBM "card punch" equipment) and "punched card" (a 
card in which holes could be or have been punched).  It seems unduly 
limiting to insist that the modifier could not be a descriptor of the 
device for which the card was intended (and the official names of those 
devices were indeed something like "model  Card Punch").  The 
meanings are subtly different, but I see both as able to convey the 
concept of a punched/punchable card that was punched using IBM Card 
Punch unit record equipment.


"Iced Tea" is no doubt a lost cause, because when said quickly the "d" 
and "t" merge and listeners only hear "ice tea" no matter what -- and 
"tea with ice" is just too much to say when you're thirsty:)

Joel C. Ewing

On 07/30/2012 10:11 AM, John Gilmore wrote:

English can be wielded with great precision; but it, and American
English in particular, often is not.  The term 'ice tea' has now, for
example, largely supplanted 'iced tea' among the subliterate; etc.,
etc., ad nauseam.

When punched cards were in wide use 'punch cards' was avoided, but
those who wish to use 'punch cards' are of course free to do so, as I
am free to deprecate it.

--jg


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Re: Top posting

[Mark Zelden]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:19:47 +1000, Shane Ginnane  wrote:

>Might I request the luminaries of the list perhaps indulge those of us
>unfortunate enough to be using the (severely crippled) web interface and *top
>post* in replies ?.
>
>That way we may get the gist of the response from "mouse over" without having
>to select every post.
>Yes, that is how bad things have become.
>
>Shane ...
>

Sorry, I use the web interface and I still hate (is that too strong a word) top 
posting.
I naturally read from the top down and scrolling down, reading, then scrolling 
up,
while scrolling down again to read a post, then scrolling up again gets me 
dizzy.

I also top post occasionally when adding onto a thread that has nothing but top
posts, but I still don't like doing so.

It's a religious argument, so you'll never get everyone to do it one way
or the other in such a large forum.   

Mark
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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Ron Hawkins]

Fair dinkum mate? I thought you were comin' the raw prawn with me. We could
blow the froth off a few and jaw wag about that for ages.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of John Gilmore
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:11 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80
> column punched card reader!
> 
> English can be wielded with great precision; but it, and American English
in
> particular, often is not.  The term 'ice tea' has now, for example,
largely
> supplanted 'iced tea' among the subliterate; etc., etc., ad nauseam.
> 
> When punched cards were in wide use 'punch cards' was avoided, but those
> who wish to use 'punch cards' are of course free to do so, as I am free to
> deprecate it.
> 
> --jg
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/30/12, zMan  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is motor oil not "motor oil" until it's installed in a motor?
> >> Is cat food not "cat food" until ...?
> >
> >
> > cf. "baby oil" vs. "whale oil" ... when you get right down to it,
> > English isn't much of a language.
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Re: Unix file system - space release question

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:05:44 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari  wrote:

> Hi
>
>I don't know if it is an sftp specific issue or not
>We have here never used sftp, but we are using ZFS instead of HFS.
>For me it would be interesting to know who is writing full the file system.
>Maybe a TRAP on errno2 if it is not clear
>
>On 30.07.2012 07:31, NAIDOO, Raleigh wrote:
>> I have configured sftp to run under USS on my z/OS V1.11 system. The 
>> physical HFS file system associated with sftp files seems to continuously 
>> run out of space.  The data in this physical file system is transient in 
>> that it is removed once it has been copied to the mainframe for inbound 
>> files and sent on for outbound files. Therefore, we should not see any 
>> cumulative growth in size of the physical file system but there is. I read 
>> somewhere that there is a sync daemon which runs at specified intervals 
>> which release unused space. How does work and what can I check to see if it 
>> setup correctly? Any other suggestions on how to manage this fragmentation 
>> like space creep.
>> 
Sync typically runs every few seconds.

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/bpxza4c0/17.15

Title: z/OS V1R13.0 UNIX System Services User's Guide
Document Number: SA22-7801-14

describes 

17.15 Listing process IDs of processes with open files

It appears that "fuser -cu" might provide useful information.

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[John Gilmore]

English can be wielded with great precision; but it, and American
English in particular, often is not.  The term 'ice tea' has now, for
example, largely supplanted 'iced tea' among the subliterate; etc.,
etc., ad nauseam.

When punched cards were in wide use 'punch cards' was avoided, but
those who wish to use 'punch cards' are of course free to do so, as I
am free to deprecate it.

--jg



On 7/30/12, zMan  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin
> wrote:
>
>> Is motor oil not "motor oil" until it's installed in a motor?
>> Is cat food not "cat food" until ...?
>
>
> cf. "baby oil" vs. "whale oil" ... when you get right down to it, English
> isn't much of a language.
> --
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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Phil Smith]

Lindy Mayfield wrote:
>For me, "punched card" isn't quite as easy to pronounce as "punch card", but I 
>have some difficulties saying "iced tea".  Perhaps "ice' tea" would be more a 
>more accurate representation.

That's really syncope 
(arguably apocope, but since it's a 
compound word, I'd say syncope). And not worth debating, as such...folks 
understand you either way!
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Re: Unix file system - space release question

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:31:13 +1000, NAIDOO, Raleigh wrote:

>SSBoYXZlIGNvbmZpZ3VyZWQgc2Z0cCB0byBydW4gdW5kZXIgVVNTIG9uIG15IHovT1MgVjEuMTEg
>c3lzdGVtLiBUaGUgcGh5c2ljYWwgSEZTIGZpbGUgc3lzdGVtIGFzc29jaWF0ZWQgd2l0aCBzZnRw
>  
A.  C'mon!

Are you using the "df -v" command to investigate this further?

As long as any process holds a file open, its space is not released,
even after it's unlinked.  I would not expect sftp to misbehave in
this respect.  But do you have other processes, perhaps batch jobs,
that may be holding files open?  I believe there's a utility (fuser?
perhaps on the Tools and Toys page?) that shows open files.  But
I don't know whether it reports unlinked files.

-- gil

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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[zMan]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

> Is motor oil not "motor oil" until it's installed in a motor?
> Is cat food not "cat food" until ...?


cf. "baby oil" vs. "whale oil" ... when you get right down to it, English
isn't much of a language.
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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:03:06 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>
>>Paul Gilmartin is almost right.  Both the reader and the punch
>>read and punched what they were presented with.
>
>What is that supposed to mean? Bit 2 of the CCW opcode selected
>whether to read/punch EBCDIC or column binary.
> 
Was that uniformly true?  A colleague of mine who had been using a
CDC 6400 as a graduate student  took a job with IBM in NY.  He took
some useful information with him in CDC column binary format;
two CDC Display Code characters per column.  He set himself his
first IBM Assembler exercise reading the data and converting to
EBCDIC.

When he got there, he was dismayed to be told that the CDC
binary format could not be read on IBM equipment, at least
not without a (separately priced?) feature.  (Hardware?  Software?)
True?  Or just brush off of a newbie by an admin who didn't
want to make a configuration change to enable a feature?

>No S/360 operating system used column binary for object decks. I don't
>recall whether SOS, FMS and IBSYS used column binary or row binary on
>the earlier 704, 709, 704x and 709x.
> 
IIRC, data were generally column binary.  Some readers read row
binary with software matrix transposition.

>>Hard as it may be to do so, let's also try to avoid 'punch card',
>>using 'punched card' instead.
>
>Why? It is a card that you can punch holes in, but it is not punched
>when you initially take it out of the box.
> 
"Punchable card"?

Is motor oil not "motor oil" until it's installed in a motor?
Is cat food not "cat food" until ...?

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Re: Unix file system - space release question

[McKown, John]

I don't really understand. Are you saying that you do something like:

sftp -b batch.commands user@remote #get "new.ascii file" from remote
iconv -f iso8859-1 -t ibm-1047 new.ebcdic.file
cp new.ebcdic.file "//'some.zos.ps.dsn'"
rm new.ebcdic.file new.ascii.file

And that after the above, the space taken up by "new.ebcdic.file" and 
"new.ascii.file" still seems to be "in use"? I've never run into anything like 
this. Except in one case. In UNIX, you can delete a file (rm new.ascii.file) 
which is currently open. When you do this, the directory entry is removed 
immediately. However, the space is not released until the open count goes to 0. 
At which point, the space is released. Could something be keeping the UNIX file 
open?

===

If possible, I would strongly suggest that you look at Dovetailed Technologies 
enhanced sftp for z/OS. It comes in a Community Version, which is free to 
download and use, but unsupported; and a commercial version which costs money, 
but is fully supported. It has a lot of enhancements. But the main one that 
you'd likely be interested in would be the ability to use sftp to both send and 
receive standard z/OS datasets via sftp directly. That is, without using an 
intermediate UNIX file. IBM's sftp will only do BINary transfer. Dovetailed's 
sftp can do either a BINary transfer, or do a code conversion (for instance to 
IBM-1047, or CP-037, or ???) at the time of the transfer.
http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html

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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of NAIDOO, Raleigh
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:31 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Unix file system - space release question
> 
> I have configured sftp to run under USS on my z/OS V1.11 
> system. The physical HFS file system associated with sftp 
> files seems to continuously run out of space. The data in 
> this physical file system is transient in that it is removed 
> once it has been copied to the mainframe for inbound files 
> and sent on for outbound files. Therefore, we should not see 
> any cumulative growth in size of the physical file system but 
> there is. I read somewhere that there is a sync daemon which 
> runs at specified intervals which release unused space. How 
> does work and what can I check to see if it setup correctly? 
> Any other suggestions on how to manage this fragmentation 
> like space creep.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Raleigh Naidoo
> Senior Systems Programmer
> AXA Technology Services Australia
> Level 5, 750 Collins St, Docklands, VIC 3008 
> raleigh.nai...@axa-tech.com
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Re: Top posting

[McKown, John]

I generally reply as I think is most efficient. If the original email is short, 
and my reply is long, then I will bottom post so that the context is kept. If 
original is long, or the Subjet line "says it all", then I tend to top post (as 
in this case) and may even remove the original message (again, as in this 
case). If the original asks multiple questions, then I tend use to in-line 
reply, so that each answer is under the associated question. And I usually will 
trim out any excess which I consider to be irrelevent. Perhaps with an 
 or  type pseudo-XML tag.

IOW, "Each man did what was right in his own eyes." 

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Re: Top posting

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

>More precisely, it specifies that a response follow the text being responded 
>to and that you not quote text you are not responding to. A better term might 
>be "interspersed bottom posting".

Good formal term. ;-)

>The standard Internet posting style is to quote each snippet that you are 
>responding to and to follow it with the response, not quoting anything else. 
>If you do that, then the reader can see the context without scrolling through 
>large amounts of extraneous material.

Just curious, while I agree 100% with what you wrote, where is that standard 
written? I seem to recall that in a previous thread, that standard was 
mentioned, but could not find it.

Oh, as usual, many thanks for your educational posts. ;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

Well, did I followed your 'standards' properly? ;-D

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Fwd: improve IO scheduling to MFNetDisk emulated 3390 disks

[shai hess]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Shai Hess 
Date: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:24 PM
Subject: improve IO scheduling to MFNetDisk emulated 3390 disks
To: shai.h...@gmail.com


**
HI,

 Many performance improvement lastly change the timing issue of MFNetDisk.
 The throughput increase and IO request elapse time decreased.
 This situation change the scheduling issue dramatically.
 High priority jobs start to control the disk per UCB (with CIOD which is
like IBM PAV, no problems). Low IO priority wait more time for IO.
 For example if you run many SUBSYSTEM IO with high IO priority per second
per one IO device (High IOQ time in RMF) and you try to run VTOC list using
ISPF 3.4, the listing of the VTOC may take long time because IOS serve the
high priority first and it may be taken long time before the ISPF 3.4 will
received IO service time.
 To eliminate this condition I make some changes to the MFNetDisk IOS to
give more but small IO services time to low priority job like TSO user to
eliminate timeout condition and to response in fair time and not for
unexpected long time as it may be when the IOQ per UCB is very high.
 So, PTFID=211 is ready for download. The change is in MFNetDisk MF.

 The PTFID description:
Improve IO scheduling for MFNetDisk disk emulation to enable low job IO
priority to run as well in fair time.
   This eliminates cases   where many high IO priority jobs control IO
scheduling and low IO priority jobs are delayed.
   July 30, 2012





Thanks,
God bless you.
Shai Hess, MFNetDisk product.



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Re: Friday: What you've been waiting for! Build an 80 column punched card reader!

[Lindy Mayfield]

For me, "punched card" isn't quite as easy to pronounce as "punch card", but I 
have some difficulties saying "iced tea".  Perhaps "ice' tea" would be more a 
more accurate representation.

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card reader!

>Hard as it may be to do so, let's also try to avoid 'punch card', using 
>'punched card' instead.

Why? It is a card that you can punch holes in, but it is not punched when you 
initially take it out of the box.

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-Original Message-
From: Miklos Szigetvari 
To: IBM-MAIN 
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Unix file system - space release question




 Hi 
 
I don't know if it is an sftp specific issue or not 
We have here never used sftp, but we are using ZFS instead of HFS. 
For me it would be interesting to know who is writing full the file system. 
Maybe a TRAP on errno2 if it is not clear 
 
On 30.07.2012 07:31, NAIDOO, Raleigh wrote: 
> I have configured sftp to run under USS on my z/OS V1.11 system. The 
physical  
HFS file system associated with sftp files seems to continuously run out of  
space. The data in this physical file system is transient in that it is removed 
 
once it has been copied to the mainframe for inbound files and sent on for  
outbound files. Therefore, we should not see any cumulative growth in size of  
the physical file system but there is. I read somewhere that there is a sync  
daemon which runs at specified intervals which release unused space. How does  
work and what can I check to see if it setup correctly? Any other suggestions 
on  
how to manage this fragmentation like space creep. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Raleigh Naidoo 
> Senior Systems Programmer 
> AXA Technology Services Australia 
> Level 5, 750 Collins St, Docklands, VIC 3008 
> raleigh.nai...@axa-tech.com 
> Office: +61 3 86883969 - Mobile/Cell +61 412 257 543 
> 
> 
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Re: Unix file system - space release question

[Miklos Szigetvari]

Hi

I don't know if it is an sftp specific issue or not
We have here never used sftp, but we are using ZFS instead of HFS.
For me it would be interesting to know who is writing full the file system.
Maybe a TRAP on errno2 if it is not clear

On 30.07.2012 07:31, NAIDOO, Raleigh wrote:

I have configured sftp to run under USS on my z/OS V1.11 system. The physical 
HFS file system associated with sftp files seems to continuously run out of 
space. The data in this physical file system is transient in that it is removed 
once it has been copied to the mainframe for inbound files and sent on for 
outbound files. Therefore, we should not see any cumulative growth in size of 
the physical file system but there is. I read somewhere that there is a sync 
daemon which runs at specified intervals which release unused space. How does 
work and what can I check to see if it setup correctly? Any other suggestions 
on how to manage this fragmentation like space creep.

Thanks,

Raleigh Naidoo
Senior Systems Programmer
AXA Technology Services Australia
Level 5, 750 Collins St, Docklands, VIC 3008
raleigh.nai...@axa-tech.com
Office: +61 3 86883969 - Mobile/Cell +61 412 257 543





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