Re: How to determine how a dataset got deleted
gsg wrote: Is there a way to determine how a specific dataset was deleted from the system? Many ways as long you have enabled the recording/storing of SMF records BEFORE that event! As others said: DAF or any other such tools. SMF 17- Non-VSAM SMF 60:69 - VSAM RACF SMF 83 - as long you have AUDIT(ALL(READ)) set for the covering profile and DATASET is in LOGOPTIONS ALWAYS. Then you get SMF 18 if your dataset was RENAMED instead of deleted. You could check if the Catalog entry was deleted while the Non-SMS dataset was still there. Oh, you'll have to check ALL LPARs SMF records. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Firewall under z/OS 2.1
I have to block my Host z/OS 2.1 one port for all access except than coming from one single server. We do have SERVAUTH, Port SAF protection, NETACCESS but I think to achieve this I got to activate IP Filtering. RTFM tells me that as soon as I activate IPSECURITY and IPSEC static statement (no PAGENT at this time) by default it blocks all traffic.. Can some one PLEASE provide me IPSEC control statements to let through all inbound / outbound packet except than coming to an specific port and the sender is not in fix IP addresses IPSEC list. any pointers in that direction.. regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS
I found that it was easier to get a directory listing and run it through a quick little program to generate the individual FTP commands - then I didn't have to worry about anything and could more easily control the outcome. This has been a good discussion, and I am so glad for all your contributions. I will try the OGETX later, just for my knowledge, as I had not thought of that before. Thanks again, everybody! B On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch wrote: I'm not a big fan of the Irisch commands (OEDIT, OGET, etc.), but for the problem at hand, OGETX with the SUFFIX() operand might be useful. All suffices must be the same, and the remaining name must be a valid member name. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Thank you and best regards, *Billy Ashton* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Calendars and political parties was Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program)
Would you guys stop PUNishing us! Original message From: Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca Date: 08/12/2015 6:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Calendars and political parties was Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program) On 12 Aug 2015 11:08:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Leave it to the Republicans! In the case below, the issue has nothing to do with any branch of the United States of America Republican Party being French. Clark Morris Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program) (Please don't post (or reply) with Subject: ... Digest) On 2015-08-12, at 08:42, Charles Mills wrote: Why not 360? Or 512? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_Calendar -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Firewall under z/OS 2.1
Hi, Take look at the TCPIP communication server Guide(Redbook) and that Should tell you the various control statement about the IPSEC. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Munif Sadek munif.sa...@gmail.com wrote: I have to block my Host z/OS 2.1 one port for all access except than coming from one single server. We do have SERVAUTH, Port SAF protection, NETACCESS but I think to achieve this I got to activate IP Filtering. RTFM tells me that as soon as I activate IPSECURITY and IPSEC static statement (no PAGENT at this time) by default it blocks all traffic.. Can some one PLEASE provide me IPSEC control statements to let through all inbound / outbound packet except than coming to an specific port and the sender is not in fix IP addresses IPSEC list. any pointers in that direction.. regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Firewall under z/OS 2.1
If you are not aware, there is a TCPIP list that could also help. If you have not joined, you can do so here TCPIP To subscribe, send mail to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the command (paste it!) in the e-mail message body: SUBSCRIBE IBMTCP-L Or this url and go to the bottom of the webpage: http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?IBMTCP-L Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Munif Sadek Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Firewall under z/OS 2.1 I have to block my Host z/OS 2.1 one port for all access except than coming from one single server. We do have SERVAUTH, Port SAF protection, NETACCESS but I think to achieve this I got to activate IP Filtering. RTFM tells me that as soon as I activate IPSECURITY and IPSEC static statement (no PAGENT at this time) by default it blocks all traffic.. Can some one PLEASE provide me IPSEC control statements to let through all inbound / outbound packet except than coming to an specific port and the sender is not in fix IP addresses IPSEC list. any pointers in that direction.. regards Munif -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
And PI should equal 3.0 snip snip Paul Gilmartin wrote: If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. Emperor! Your majesty, my precious, but you will be stopped by Darth Vader, because he is the Force. If not stopped, you'll also have these problems within a year or leap-year: 1. Define 'year' and 'leap year'. Each planet, dwarf planet, astro, etc. have their own definition of their equivalent of day, month, year. 2. Above definitions are heavily subject to the unit based on. For example, meter (on planet earth) was defined over the years by: specific pendulum, meridional length, prototype meter bar, number of wave-length of a specific element, distance of light in x seconds. 3. Due to some planets are 'Tidal locked' to their star, some residents don't have a definition of day or year, since they either see the star full day/month/year or not. Some lucky residents may see the star at one point and had to define another way of year/day. 4. Planets like Tatooine have a binary star system. Now, trying to convince those ruthless bickering population to agree at what star should they base their planet rotation so they can work out their year length. 5. Some residents may choose a particular star to base their year by observation. Now which star? 6. Some planets may have laws prohibiting usage of 'day', 'year', etc. Don't ask. No, don't try to think about that. 7. Technology! Other planets have better technology and can discard day/month/year. Simply. No problem. It is a probability they have better machines, z/OS is too prehistoric to them. 8. Now here on crazy earth you have different measurement standards, like centimetre or inch. Which one will prevail? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
Elardus, Friday or not (how do we measure days to know when Friday is, anyway??), I appreciate the good laugh - thanks! Billy On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. Emperor! Your majesty, my precious, but you will be stopped by Darth Vader, because he is the Force. If not stopped, you'll also have these problems within a year or leap-year: 1. Define 'year' and 'leap year'. Each planet, dwarf planet, astro, etc. have their own definition of their equivalent of day, month, year. 2. Above definitions are heavily subject to the unit based on. For example, meter (on planet earth) was defined over the years by: specific pendulum, meridional length, prototype meter bar, number of wave-length of a specific element, distance of light in x seconds. 3. Due to some planets are 'Tidal locked' to their star, some residents don't have a definition of day or year, since they either see the star full day/month/year or not. Some lucky residents may see the star at one point and had to define another way of year/day. 4. Planets like Tatooine have a binary star system. Now, trying to convince those ruthless bickering population to agree at what star should they base their planet rotation so they can work out their year length. 5. Some residents may choose a particular star to base their year by observation. Now which star? 6. Some planets may have laws prohibiting usage of 'day', 'year', etc. Don't ask. No, don't try to think about that. 7. Technology! Other planets have better technology and can discard day/month/year. Simply. No problem. It is a probability they have better machines, z/OS is too prehistoric to them. 8. Now here on crazy earth you have different measurement standards, like centimetre or inch. Which one will prevail? Now imagine how you will try to convince all residents of all planets to have ONE year easily divide-able by whatever number you use in any base (decimal, hexadecimal, etc.) Ok, enough, is it Friday today... or so? ;-) Sorry for above mumblings - Most IBM-MAIN members are at SHARE, and I have nothing useful to SHARE... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Thank you and best regards, *Billy Ashton* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Catalog Entry Deletion using a String
Hello All, Is it possible to delete a catalog entry using a first HLQ alone ? Like deleting all entry of ZOS21.** instead of specifying each and every qualified dataset ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog Entry Deletion using a String
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:50:29 +0530, Peter wrote: Hello All, Is it possible to delete a catalog entry using a first HLQ alone ? Like deleting all entry of ZOS21.** instead of specifying each and every qualified dataset ? delete zos21.** mask http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i2a1/20.1.1.1 Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
Paul Gilmartin wrote: If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. Emperor! Your majesty, my precious, but you will be stopped by Darth Vader, because he is the Force. If not stopped, you'll also have these problems within a year or leap-year: 1. Define 'year' and 'leap year'. Each planet, dwarf planet, astro, etc. have their own definition of their equivalent of day, month, year. 2. Above definitions are heavily subject to the unit based on. For example, meter (on planet earth) was defined over the years by: specific pendulum, meridional length, prototype meter bar, number of wave-length of a specific element, distance of light in x seconds. 3. Due to some planets are 'Tidal locked' to their star, some residents don't have a definition of day or year, since they either see the star full day/month/year or not. Some lucky residents may see the star at one point and had to define another way of year/day. 4. Planets like Tatooine have a binary star system. Now, trying to convince those ruthless bickering population to agree at what star should they base their planet rotation so they can work out their year length. 5. Some residents may choose a particular star to base their year by observation. Now which star? 6. Some planets may have laws prohibiting usage of 'day', 'year', etc. Don't ask. No, don't try to think about that. 7. Technology! Other planets have better technology and can discard day/month/year. Simply. No problem. It is a probability they have better machines, z/OS is too prehistoric to them. 8. Now here on crazy earth you have different measurement standards, like centimetre or inch. Which one will prevail? Now imagine how you will try to convince all residents of all planets to have ONE year easily divide-able by whatever number you use in any base (decimal, hexadecimal, etc.) Ok, enough, is it Friday today... or so? ;-) Sorry for above mumblings - Most IBM-MAIN members are at SHARE, and I have nothing useful to SHARE... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog Entry Deletion using a String
Peter wrote: Is it possible to delete a catalog entry using a first HLQ alone ? Like deleting all entry of ZOS21.** instead of specifying each and every qualified dataset ? Yes. Use IDCAMS. Please RTFM on IDCAMS. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to determine how a dataset got deleted
In 3761940565410886.wa.gsg808yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/12/2015 at 04:52 PM, gsg 0053fe88ed35-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Is there a way to determine how a specific dataset was deleted from the system? DAF? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3380 was actually FBA?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:45 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote: My strong impression was that the erased IBG between physical blocks was a requirement for proper sensing of beginning of a block. The requirement that some 32-byte increments must be left unused for IBGs indicates these 32-byte groupings do not play the same role as fixed data blocks in FBA architecture devices. left unused? or marked as unused? (although this may be a distinction without a difference). And it may depend on choice of encoding technique: NRZI? MFM? GCR: (0,2) RLL? The last is interesting because it has 17 encodings available to represent a 4-bit nybble. Some systems use the extra code point to signal control information, which might be a logical IBG. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-length_limited#GCR:_.280.2C2.29_RLL -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:23:06 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 08/11/2015 at 03:13 PM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com said: since obviously you can't simulate overstrike on a display. Not obvious and not true, but the 3270 display stream doesn't support it. However, it does support high intensity, which is a reasonable substitute. Depends. For highlighting, yes. Not for synthesizing characters as APL did with a Selectric typewriter. And think of the line printer halftone posters that programmers (used to) hang on their office walls. (Does anyone have a sample?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog Entry Deletion using a String
I would add; since you asked about deleting a catalog entry, I think you will also want to add the option, NOSCRATCH to the delete command to only remove the catalog entry and not the data set on the physical volume. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catalog Entry Deletion using a String On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:50:29 +0530, Peter wrote: Hello All, Is it possible to delete a catalog entry using a first HLQ alone ? Like deleting all entry of ZOS21.** instead of specifying each and every qualified dataset ? delete zos21.** mask http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i2a1/20.1.1.1 Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NOTE/POINT issue with spanned BSAM datasets
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:26:34 -0400, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: The overt issue I am having is a S0C1 after doing a POINT macro when the data is on the second volume of a multi-volume (BSAM) dataset. When I first started looking at the issue, I read that an EXTENDED striped dataset would act as though it were on a single volume to the program. I would have to add BLOCKSIZE=LARGE to my DCBE and handle the NOTE/POINT data correctly, but that was about it as far as changes went. However, when I started looking at the data returned from NOTE, I am getting values of 1, 2, 3, etc. which doesn't quite jive with the documentation (I can't believe everything is on track 0). However, when it (apparently) goes to the second volume, the return value from NOTE starts over at 1. I'm at a loss. Everything I read says this is supposed to work and I am sure I have something missing, I just can't figure out what. With BLOCKTOKENSIZE=LARGE on the DCBE, the tokens are not TTRs. They are simple a relative block number. A striped extended format dataset (i.e. stripe count 1) appears to a BSAM user as if it was a single volume. The note values are sequential regardless of which physical volume contains the block. For a non-striped multi-volume extended format data set (i.e. stripe count = 1), the NOTE values start over for each volume. The program is responsible for positioning to the correct volume. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Thanks Jim, that answers a number of questions. However, I have not been able to find information on specifying a specific volume on an SMS managed dataset. The things I have tried fail telling me basically you can't do that on SMS. Regards, Mark Hammack mark.hamm...@gmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
Some of these .txt are recognizable on big screen. Haven't tried to print. Probably a PG rating _www.testfiles.com/art/DECUS/_ (http://www.testfiles.com/art/DECUS/) In a message dated 8/13/2015 11:34:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu writes: And think of the line printer halftone posters that programmers (used to) hang on their office walls. (Does anyone have a sample?) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
IOF does and has for at least 14 years support carriage control emulated display (both RECFM=A or M), except for overprinting. Pardon my ignorance, but what is IOF? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
IOF is a SPOOL display product from Fischer International http://www.fisc.com/products/iof/ . Interactive Output Facility according to the site. I have a vague memory of it. It is not an SDSF work-alike but, back when I used it, it had some good features. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch wrote: IOF does and has for at least 14 years support carriage control emulated display (both RECFM=A or M), except for overprinting. Pardon my ignorance, but what is IOF? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
On 13 August 2015 at 11:49, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan xkcd.com/1123 Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Q: FTP Exits
Save area back-chaining? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Stevet Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Q: FTP Exits It is possible. However, the client exit does not get control before the PARM= values have been processed into an IP address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Q: FTP Exits
It is possible. However, the client exit does not get control before the PARM= values have been processed into an IP address. Never underestimate the power of an annoyed developer. There is a way to get to FTP's PARM= value. Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots. On Aug 13, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch wrote: I've been asked to find a way to check FTP usage in our z/OS environment (2.1 at this point) to see if users are specifying IP addresses or names to be resolved. IP packets contain IP addresses and ports, not DNS names. The receiver cannot tell whether the user behind the client specified a hostname (to be resolved by a DNS lookup) or an IP address directly. If the former, then the client software must resolve the hostname via DNS lookup in order to start a TCP session via IP address. With HTTP, the client sends how the server was addressed to the server. So the web server knows whether the user entered an IP address or a hostname. This is the basis for multihoming, aka. VirtualHosts in web servers. I don't know but doubt that this information is part of the FTP protocol. If not, what you desire seems not possible to me. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
What a wonderful quote. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.) Paul Gilmartin wrote: If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. Emperor! Your majesty, my precious, but you will be stopped by Darth Vader, because he is the Force. If not stopped, you'll also have these problems within a year or leap-year: 1. Define 'year' and 'leap year'. Each planet, dwarf planet, astro, etc. have their own definition of their equivalent of day, month, year. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Q: FTP Exits
Probably. I'll know with the first S0C3 that I examine w/ IPCS. Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots. On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Save area back-chaining? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Stevet Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Q: FTP Exits It is possible. However, the client exit does not get control before the PARM= values have been processed into an IP address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
IOF does and has for at least 14 years support carriage control emulated display (both RECFM=A or M), except for overprinting. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:26 PM Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch wrote: Ah! Here it is!: asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control But it's an incomplete implementation. Doesn't support the - (space 3 lines) ASA CC. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)
At what time would you reverse this for when the sun starts expanding? There's gonna be some gravity balancing to be done Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots. On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: If I had the ability to adjust the Earth's orbit, I would be very slowly increasing the diameter about 10% per billion years to balance out the warming of the sun. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Gary Weinhold weinh...@dkl.com wrote: And if I were Emperor of the universe, I'd adjust the earth's orbit to make sure it competed a revolution in exactly 365 days. gary On 2015-08-12 00:00, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:19:38 -0500 From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Subject: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program) On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:37:30 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote: Encyclopedia Britannica is complicit in the confusion to this day by incorrectly implying in their Leap Year entry that in addition to the divisible by 4, 100, 400 rules there either is or should be a 4000-year exception rule: ...For still more precise reckoning, every year evenly divisible by 4,000 (i.e., 16,000, 24,000, etc.) may be a common (not leap) year, Over 18 years ago (Nov 1996) EB acknowledged that no such rule exists: it was an un-adopted and sub-optimal suggestion by Sir John Herschel around 1820. EB has apparently not yet followed their own internal recommendation in 1996 to reword this statement in the future. If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. 365 31/128 is within one second of the mean tropical year; closer even than the 4000-year rule. The unpredictable secular increase in the length of the day makes a 4000-year rule pointless. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NOTE/POINT issue with spanned BSAM datasets
Thanks Jim, that answers a number of questions. However, I have not been able to find information on specifying a specific volume on an SMS managed dataset. The things I have tried fail telling me basically you can't do that on SMS. IPCS does an OPEN TYPE=J after setting JFCBVLSQ to the desired volume sequence number. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3380 was actually FBA?
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: hardware speed and error correction was going to fixed-sized blocks. You can see this in 3380 track capacity calculations where record sizes have to be rounded up, sort of compromise hack given that MVS wasn't going to support real FBA. The 3380 was smaller fixed-sized blocks ... but not true IBM FBA like 3310 3370. 3375 was the first CKD emulated on top of an IBM FBA (3370) device. 512-byte blocks have prevailed for a couple decades (IBM 3310 3370 and follow-ons ... but also all the other industry standard disks). There is currently inudstry move to 4096-byte fixed blocks for improved error correction and track capacity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format http://www.seagate.com/tech-insights/advanced-format-4k-sector-hard-drives-master-ti/ re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#4 3380 was actually FBA? and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/3QSdKeko604 IBM journal articles are behind IEEE membership wall ... have found this detailed description at Google Books (3380 error correcting) https://books.google.com/books?id=cG4Zgb8OqwECpg=PA495lpg=PA495dq=ibm+3380+error+correctingsource=blots=lMaYN_d94Fsig=o-R202AspjC1Ox09YNcZDb9Ljgchl=ensa=Xved=0CDgQ6AEwBGoVChMIxpHRg-KmxwIVVluICh1twgJy#v=onepageq=ibm%203380%20error%20correctingf=false which has each subblock consists of 96 data bytes and six first-level check bytes are appended in the form of two interleaved codewords after discussing details of 3380, it moves into RAID Reed-Solomon codes ... trivia, I worked with somebody in bldg14 that was awarded the original RAID patent. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: Q: FTP Exits
I've been asked to find a way to check FTP usage in our z/OS environment (2.1 at this point) to see if users are specifying IP addresses or names to be resolved. IP packets contain IP addresses and ports, not DNS names. The receiver cannot tell whether the user behind the client specified a hostname (to be resolved by a DNS lookup) or an IP address directly. If the former, then the client software must resolve the hostname via DNS lookup in order to start a TCP session via IP address. With HTTP, the client sends how the server was addressed to the server. So the web server knows whether the user entered an IP address or a hostname. This is the basis for multihoming, aka. VirtualHosts in web servers. I don't know but doubt that this information is part of the FTP protocol. If not, what you desire seems not possible to me. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Aug 2015 to 11 Aug 2015 (#2015-223)
If I had the ability to adjust the Earth's orbit, I would be very slowly increasing the diameter about 10% per billion years to balance out the warming of the sun. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Gary Weinhold weinh...@dkl.com wrote: And if I were Emperor of the universe, I'd adjust the earth's orbit to make sure it competed a revolution in exactly 365 days. gary On 2015-08-12 00:00, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:19:38 -0500 From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Subject: Leap (was: LOADING An AMODE64 Program) On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:37:30 -0500, Joel Ewing wrote: Encyclopedia Britannica is complicit in the confusion to this day by incorrectly implying in their Leap Year entry that in addition to the divisible by 4, 100, 400 rules there either is or should be a 4000-year exception rule: ...For still more precise reckoning, every year evenly divisible by 4,000 (i.e., 16,000, 24,000, etc.) may be a common (not leap) year, Over 18 years ago (Nov 1996) EB acknowledged that no such rule exists: it was an un-adopted and sub-optimal suggestion by Sir John Herschel around 1820. EB has apparently not yet followed their own internal recommendation in 1996 to reword this statement in the future. If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. 365 31/128 is within one second of the mean tropical year; closer even than the 4000-year rule. The unpredictable secular increase in the length of the day makes a 4000-year rule pointless. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
Now I are confused. http://www.triangle-systems.com/ioftech.shtml The contact is for the same person at same number. Christine Carfgnoni In a message dated 8/13/2015 3:04:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, john.archie.mck...@gmail.com writes: http://www.fisc.com/products/iof/ . Interactive Output Facility according to the site. I have a vague memory of it. It is not an SDSF work-alike but, back when I used it, it had some good features. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:26:11 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: Ah! Here it is!: asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control But it's an incomplete implementation. Doesn't support the - (space 3 lines) ASA CC. Is - part of the ASA standard or is it an IBMism? It's pretty hard to find a definitive document. I'd have greater trust in one that wasn't published by IBM. You can fix it with the sed filter: sed '/^-/i\ s/^-/0/' -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:03:44 -0500, John McKown wrote: IOF is a SPOOL display product from Fischer International http://www.fisc.com/products/iof/ . Interactive Output Facility according to the site. I have a vague memory of it. It is not an SDSF work-alike but, back when I used it, it had some good features. How does it compare to (E)JES. We can no longer afford (E)JES. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: Re: AW: Q: FTP Exits
Never underestimate the power of an annoyed developer. There is a way to get to FTP's PARM= value. I'd never dare to. My point was that if it is not part of the protocol definition, a client may or may not send additional information. However clever a developer might be, it would only help if user had no way but to use his invention. That surely is not given for FTP. I'm gonna have a look at some Wireshark traces, and at the FTP RFC(s). -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog Entry Deletion using a String
Yes. As others stated, look at the HELP DELETE under TSO. I always back up what I am going to delete just in-case there is something in there I want to keep. You can also use DFDSS to DUMP DELETE as well. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Catalog Entry Deletion using a String Hello All, Is it possible to delete a catalog entry using a first HLQ alone ? Like deleting all entry of ZOS21.** instead of specifying each and every qualified dataset ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
In 1867294601655777.wa.mitchdanagmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/11/2015 at 03:13 PM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com said: since obviously you can't simulate overstrike on a display. Not obvious and not true, but the 3270 display stream doesn't support it. However, it does support high intensity, which is a reasonable substitute. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: Re: SDSF and Carriage Control
Ah! Here it is!: asa - Interpret ASA/FORTRAN carriage control But it's an incomplete implementation. Doesn't support the - (space 3 lines) ASA CC. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: And PI should equal 3.0 Which will immediately cause all law abiding wheels to become hexagonal. Better have really _GOOD_ shocks! Or upgrade to a hover car. -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.)
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Emperor (Was Calendars ... and Leap ... etc.) Paul Gilmartin wrote: If I were Emperor of the Universe, I would make the rule: Every year divisible by 4 except one divisible by 128 is a leap year. Emperor! Your majesty, my precious, but you will be stopped by Darth Vader, because he is the Force. If not stopped, you'll also have these problems within a year or leap-year: 1. Define 'year' and 'leap year'. Each planet, dwarf planet, astro, etc. have their own definition of their equivalent of day, month, year. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
