Re: Conversion from SAG Adabas and Natural to something else

[Timothy Sipples]

Tony Thigpen wrote:
>I am looking for options to eliminate SAG in a shop.

IBM has a couple publications that might be of interest if you haven't
reviewed them already:

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp5154.html
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248044.html

>Such high costs are just not in the budget.

Perhaps that's true at this moment, but what goals are you hoping to
achieve? In particular, if there are few or no business benefits associated
with the "to be" state then it's at least harder to make your business case
work. I recommend answering that question first.


Timothy Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com

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Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:43:14 -0400, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

>I've been wondering how long it would take for time-change questions to start. 
>It's a little later this year.
> 
Well, the U.S. keeps extending the DST season.

Here's the CSM's take on it:


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/1031/Daylight-saving-time-Why-isn-t-going-away

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Re: (External):Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

[J O Skip Robinson]

Not mentioned in the article is a motivation I heard from childhood: tending 
one's garden. As part of the general war effort, the populace were encouraged 
to grow at least some of their own food in order to free up commercial 
agriculture for the troops. These so-called Victory Gardens were deemed more 
manageable by working stiffs if there were still some daylight left at the end 
of the job day. Having to prune tomato plants in the pitch of night was rightly 
considered a disincentive to self-sufficiency. 

All of this early campaigning occurred well before the exigencies of IT. Reset 
the household clocks before retiring Saturday night and all would be well the 
next morning. Who would even notice at 2 AM on a Sunday? Ah, the simpler days. 
Well, the early opponents trotted out the true objectors: cows and other farm 
animals who were governed by internal biological clock. Try to explain to them 
why their daily lives were periodically jerked around by an hour. Ah, the 
simpler days. 

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:43:14 -0400, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

>I've been wondering how long it would take for time-change questions to start. 
>It's a little later this year.
> 
Well, the U.S. keeps extending the DST season.

Here's the CSM's take on it:


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/1031/Daylight-saving-time-Why-isn-t-going-away

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Re: NJE Issue

[Lizette Koehler]

What error message are you seeing when you try to connect?
We need to see what you see.  Please post complete messages.

Go to a previous syslog where the connection worked and see what HASP messages 
were
Go to current syslog where the connection fails and see what HASP message are 
there.


Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:28 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: NJE Issue
> 
> We recently modified our z/OS system with new IP address  but we forgot to 
> change
> IP in JES2PARM parmlib member ofr NJE connection.
> 
> For one of the system we have entry like below
> 
> /
> /
> /* Define JES2 Applications */
> /
> /
> SOCKET(SYS01) IPADDR=130.15.15.10,
> NODE=4,
> PORT=175
> SOCKET(SYS02) IPADDR=130.15.15.11,
> NODE=7,
> PORT=175
> SOCKET(SYS03) IPADDR=130.15.15.12,
> NODE=5,
> PORT=175
> 
> 
> Because of this our routing was failing from one system to another. But now I 
> used
> dynamic command
> 
> $addsock(SYS01),ipaddr=130.15.15.10,port=175,node=5   etc to modify the new
> IP address.
> 
> But still we are not able to route the Jobs from one syste to another.Can 
> anybody
> help  to start this NJE line connection again dynamically rather then IPLing 
> the
> system now.
> 

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Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

[Jack J. Woehr]

Greg Lubel wrote:

I am the IBM design lead for our z Systems API strategy.
Surprised no one cited this IBM PDF freely downloadable yet, /APIs for Dummies./ 



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Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

[Peter Relson]

>Remember that CSA and ECSA can overflow to SQA and ESQA, so you have 
>more air in you (E)CSA than the 2% and 3% and this might help you 
>survive until the next scheduled IPL.

Actually, it's the other way around, as I think of it. 

CSA can be converted into SQA. If a request to obtain storage from SQA 
cannot find it from the defined SQA, the system may convert CSA to satisfy 
the request.

It will not do the reverse.

This is why some customers will underconfigure SQA and overconfigure CSA.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Conversion from SAG Adabas and Natural to something else

[Mitch Mccluhan]

 ...drop me an email.  I have done about 5 or 6 of these types of projects.

 

Mitch McCluhan
mitc...@aol.com

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Timothy Sipples 
To: IBM-MAIN 
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2015 4:20 am
Subject: Re: Conversion from SAG Adabas and Natural to something else


Tony Thigpen wrote:
>I am looking for options to eliminate SAG in a
shop.

IBM has a couple publications that might be of interest if you
haven't
reviewed them
already:

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp5154.html
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248044.html

>Such
high costs are just not in the budget.

Perhaps that's true at this moment,
but what goals are you hoping to
achieve? In particular, if there are few or no
business benefits associated
with the "to be" state then it's at least harder
to make your business case
work. I recommend answering that question
first.


Timothy
Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems,
AP/GCG/MEA
E-Mail:
sipp...@sg.ibm.com

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Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL

[Martin Packer]

Right. And coming to this late...

SMF 78-2 has all the numbers you'd usually need on this. My standard 
reporting generates useful stuff on this - but generally I don't bore my 
customers with it. If it's exciting, however, ... :-)

Quite often I see SQA oversized leaving unusable 24- or 31-bit SQA. (Also 
oversized CSA, but that's a different matter.)

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM

+44-7802-245-584

email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog: 
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker



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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   31/10/2015 13:56
Subject:Re: Releasing Orphan Storage without IPL
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>Remember that CSA and ECSA can overflow to SQA and ESQA, so you have 
>more air in you (E)CSA than the 2% and 3% and this might help you 
>survive until the next scheduled IPL.

Actually, it's the other way around, as I think of it. 

CSA can be converted into SQA. If a request to obtain storage from SQA 
cannot find it from the defined SQA, the system may convert CSA to satisfy 

the request.

It will not do the reverse.

This is why some customers will underconfigure SQA and overconfigure CSA.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: (External):Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

[Scott Ford]

Skip,

Exactly. I have been that way, the way you described since I started 40 yrs
ago. Been saying specs,specs and apparently the meaning has been lost in
the translation, as they say.

Many of us learned:

Input
Process
Output

Regards,

Scott , the T-Rex

On Saturday, October 31, 2015, J O Skip Robinson 
wrote:

> (It must be Friday somewhere.) My first encounter with APIs was a (likely
> fictitious) anecdote about an engineer who went to a programmer and asked
> for a program to calculate a square root. "Are you sure that's all you
> want? Just a calculation?" The engineer insisted that's all he needed. The
> next day the programmer handed over a deck of cards (ah, those were the
> days). "This will calculate square roots."
>
> "Great" said the engineer. "How do I run it?"
>
> "Put this deck the card reader and press Start."
>
> "How do I input the number?"
>
> "Input? You didn't ask for input. Or output either, for that matter. This
> program does exactly what you asked for. It calculates a square root."
>
> Like I said, undoubtedly apocryphal. The original point of the tale was
> the importance of providing specifications. But I see it also in larger
> terms: given a computer that is somehow running some software, what APIs
> are needed to make any practical use of it? More specifically, what is an
> API in the simplest terms? In the context of the survey, I have no idea
> what sort of API the author has in mind. The term is not defined, yet the
> entire survey assumes an agreed-upon definition. Does 'API' encompass both
> the ability to enter a console command and a program-callable interface to
> HSM?
>
> I gave up on the survey.
>
> .
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 626-302-7535 Office
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> jo.skip.robin...@sce.com 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 2:30 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: (External):Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement
>
> I just started the survey, by the third page I had no idea what you were
> asking, so I quit
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:51 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> > Subject: Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > My best description would be SHARE on-line where the audience that can
> > respond with suggestions and/or answers
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> ]
> > On Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:43 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> > Subject: Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement
> >
> > Tell them there's a printable $10 bill waiting for them at the end :)
> >
> > Actually, I'm one of the looky-loos.  I was only trying to understand
> > what this is all about and don't have any applications.  I didn't
> > fully understand the background and objectives after the first few
> > questions, so I left.  It's probably just me though, my wife repeatedly
> says I'm a little dense.
> >
> > Greg Lubel wrote:
> > > Thanks to all who have followed the link to my survey. This is a
> > > quick
> > question to those of you who've looked at it and decided not to complete
> it.
> > >
> > > Would you mind letting me know in a sentence how I could make it
> > > better,
> > to encourage completion?
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Greg
>
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NJE Issue

[venkat kulkarni]

We recently modified our z/OS system with new IP address  but we forgot to
change IP in
JES2PARM parmlib member ofr NJE connection.

For one of the system we have entry like below

//
/* Define JES2 Applications */
//
SOCKET(SYS01) IPADDR=130.15.15.10,
NODE=4,
PORT=175
SOCKET(SYS02) IPADDR=130.15.15.11,
NODE=7,
PORT=175
SOCKET(SYS03) IPADDR=130.15.15.12,
NODE=5,
PORT=175


Because of this our routing was failing from one system to another. But now
I used
dynamic command

$addsock(SYS01),ipaddr=130.15.15.10,port=175,node=5   etc to modify the new
IP address.

But still we are not able to route the Jobs from one syste to another.Can
anybody help  to start this NJE line connection again dynamically rather
then IPLing the system now.

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Re: (External):Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

[J O Skip Robinson]

(It must be Friday somewhere.) My first encounter with APIs was a (likely 
fictitious) anecdote about an engineer who went to a programmer and asked for a 
program to calculate a square root. "Are you sure that's all you want? Just a 
calculation?" The engineer insisted that's all he needed. The next day the 
programmer handed over a deck of cards (ah, those were the days). "This will 
calculate square roots."

"Great" said the engineer. "How do I run it?" 

"Put this deck the card reader and press Start."

"How do I input the number?"

"Input? You didn't ask for input. Or output either, for that matter. This 
program does exactly what you asked for. It calculates a square root."

Like I said, undoubtedly apocryphal. The original point of the tale was the 
importance of providing specifications. But I see it also in larger terms: 
given a computer that is somehow running some software, what APIs are needed to 
make any practical use of it? More specifically, what is an API in the simplest 
terms? In the context of the survey, I have no idea what sort of API the author 
has in mind. The term is not defined, yet the entire survey assumes an 
agreed-upon definition. Does 'API' encompass both the ability to enter a 
console command and a program-callable interface to HSM? 

I gave up on the survey. 

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

-Original Message-
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Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 2:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement

I just started the survey, by the third page I had no idea what you were 
asking, so I quit

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:51 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement
> 
> Tom,
> 
> My best description would be SHARE on-line where the audience that can 
> respond with suggestions and/or answers
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Share your z Systems expertise: survey improvement
> 
> Tell them there's a printable $10 bill waiting for them at the end :)
> 
> Actually, I'm one of the looky-loos.  I was only trying to understand 
> what this is all about and don't have any applications.  I didn't 
> fully understand the background and objectives after the first few 
> questions, so I left.  It's probably just me though, my wife repeatedly says 
> I'm a little dense.
> 
> Greg Lubel wrote:
> > Thanks to all who have followed the link to my survey. This is a 
> > quick
> question to those of you who've looked at it and decided not to complete it.
> >
> > Would you mind letting me know in a sentence how I could make it 
> > better,
> to encourage completion?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Greg


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