Re: SMF41 VLF info and ALERTAGE

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:

>I have V2.1, I think the HC functionality and the new age info became 
>available at V2.1, so I would like to see an upgrade for V2.1. 

Thanks, this is more or less what I see in the Knowledge pages. We are on z/OS 
v2.1 (only a handful of LPARs on z/OS v1.13).

I'm asking because I only see COFVLH01I and no values (trimmed from what value 
in COFVLFxx? My COFVLFxx does not have any ALERTAGE). H, time to do serious 
RTFM...

Seemed everything is in order with COFVLH01I, but I would like to see the 
VALUES - before trim and after trim.

Groete / Greetings 
Elardus Engelbrecht 

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Re: SMF41 VLF info and ALERTAGE

[Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM]

I have V2.1, I think the HC functionality and the new age info became available 
at V2.1, so I would like to see an upgrade for V2.1.

Kees.

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Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:

>Yes, I understood that and meant 'its HC routine'. 

I wanted to jump in, but ...

Question - at what z/OS level do you want that SMF 41-3 record changed? Just 
curious if you don't mind please.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: SMF41 VLF info and ALERTAGE

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:

>Yes, I understood that and meant 'its HC routine'. 

I wanted to jump in, but ...

Question - at what z/OS level do you want that SMF 41-3 record changed? Just 
curious if you don't mind please.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

[Ted MacNEIL]

Smithson.
It was a moth caught in relay 71


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Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

AFAIK The original Grace Hopper 'bug' was an actual bug - some kind of 
moth. There could be a photo of it somewhere.

Richard Pinion wrote:

>I thought the term debugging came from the days when the first computers
>were made from vacuum tubes. The tubes produced light, which in turn 
>attracted bugs. Periodically, the computer had to be "debugged".
>
>My source was probably urban legend.
>
>
>
>--- wdonze...@gmail.com wrote:
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>From: William Donzelli 
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?
>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:56:07 -0400
>
>No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a
>circuit*, shows up a fair amount in 1930s ham radio literature, for
>example.
>
>* "bug" also applies to automatic Morse keys, of course.
>
>--
>Will
>
>On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Lindy Mayfield  wrote:
> 
>
>>Was watching NCIS Los Angeles and the geek was showing off to the female geek 
>>by saying Grace Hopper didn't coin the term bug, but Thomas Edison did. 
>>(Which he probably stole from someone else, probably Tesla, but that just me 
>>being facetious.)
>>
>>http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-focus/technology-history/did-you-know-edison-coined-the-term-bug
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>>Regards,
>>Lindy
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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

[Edward Finnell]

We found one deep in IOS after XA conversion. Simultaneous interrupts, temp 
 errors on tapes, forms check on printers output buffers were not being  
serialized and often switched. Depending on timing.   don't think  there was 
even a dump but corrupted databases and log files. 32 hr production  outage.
 
 
In a message dated 3/16/2016 1:54:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:

were  both defined improperly, causing the SMF exit to be dropped from z/OS 
after  first execution due to the dynamic nature of those  exits.


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Re: SMF41 VLF info and ALERTAGE

[Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM]

Yes, I understood that and meant 'its HC routine'.

Kees.

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:16:21 +, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:

>I meant, VLF knows the current youngest age and makes it available to 
>the HC routine at each HC interva...

ITYM "VLF knows the current youngest age and uses it in *its* health check".

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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Edward Finnell wrote:

>Wiki has fairly good syllabus.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology

Interesting. Very very interesting.

Thanks Edward for posting this resource. Good reading for all wannabee bug 
killers. :-)

My least favourite bugs are these bugs called 'Alien' and 'Face Hugger'. That's 
how the Marines and employees of
Weyland-Yutani Corp are referring to them... ;-)

My worst bug in real life was when I tried to debug a SMF exit. I found the 
GETMAIN execute and list forms were both defined improperly, causing the SMF 
exit to be dropped from z/OS after first execution due to the dynamic nature of 
those exits.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

[Edward Finnell]

Wiki has fairly good syllabus.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology 
 
 
In a message dated 3/16/2016 1:17:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:

Apparently Grace coined the term, but I don't know. But what I know  and 
was told ages ago, the engineers are referring to 'bugs' when they find  dead 
things inside electrical equipment.  


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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Field, Alan wrote:

>This?  [ long address snipped ]

Yes. This is it. I first see that photo of a moth taped to a handwritten note 
in a university book for Computer Science in year 1987. The book's name is 
'Computer' by various authors. There is a paragraph about that moth found and 
it was believed that moth caused short circuit or something like that.

I will come back with the author list, ISBN and the exact text. I believe the 
US Navy has copyright on that photo.

Apparently Grace coined the term, but I don't know. But what I know and was 
told ages ago, the engineers are referring to 'bugs' when they find dead things 
inside electrical equipment. 

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Resolving Java import statements

[Jack J. Woehr]

Janet Graff wrote:

I searched for the commons-code*.class files and didn't find them.  Does 
WebSphere and/or Rational Developer not provide the class files for these 
common java routines?


A quick Google search turns up this page: 
http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-logging/guide.html

which contains the information that the logger is in commons-logging.jar


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