Re: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes

2017-02-19 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
We have one parmlib for all our LPARs (actually 2, one for prod lpars, one for 
test/install/sandbox lpars). 
We try to keep the contents of the members equal for all LPARs and specify 
differences b.m.o. system symbolics. 
To facilitate this as much as possible, we added a number of system symbolic to 
the different LPARNAME sections of IEASYM00. E.g. if LPARX runs Subarea 50 and 
LPARY runs Subarea 51, we specify &SA in the parmlib members and the &SA system 
symbolic in the MVSX and MVSY LPARNAME sections of IEASYM00.

Kees.

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> Subject: maintaining PARMLIBs over several sysplexes
> 
> Hi all - it's been a long time since I posted a question here, looking
> forward to hearing from you all.
> 
> Question about your local policy/practice:
> 
> When faced with the task of maintaining multiple PARMLIBS over a few
> related sysplexes (sandpit, development, production), do you:
> 
> Prefer to try and keep the contents of each PARMLIB dataset separate,
> and only containing members that are actually referred to on each
> specific sysplex, or
> 
> Prefer to keep all PARMLIB members related to any of the sysplexes
> synchronised across all the copies of PARMLIB - effectively keeping
> PARMLIB contents the same, wherever they are found?
> 
> Some other option?
> 
> 
> Thanks for taking the time,
> 
> Regards - Mike Cairns
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Re: Subsystem function code 16, 17, 18, and 19

2017-02-19 Thread Salva Carrasco
I wrote a subsystem for these functions a lot of years ago. It was a pain and 
undocumented task.

Take a look to GPSAM in CBT file 290. Not mine, but I inspired from it.

regards, salva.

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Re: Dynamic Exit and SDSF DYNX

2017-02-19 Thread Barbara Nitz
>It specifically is LPA vs not.

Thanks Peter (and Rob). Also thanks for that DYNX panel - now we can see the 
many exit that are silently established without traces in our parmlib... More 
to check and cleanup.

Barbara

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Re: ICSF Question

2017-02-19 Thread Greg Boyd
If you just want a list of the key labels, then a 'PRINT INDA('ckds name') 
COUNT()' will probably work, if you have read access to the keystore.  (Be 
careful and see below.)  If you want something to format the flags and fields 
in the record then you can do that either processing the data thru the ICSF 
APIs or directly reading the VSAM file.  I've got REXX EXECs but they are not 
very comprehensive.  I use the RXVSAM package from the CBTape to read the VSAM 
record and then display specific fields.  

The problem is that in most shops, the CKDS contains clear keys, and anyone 
that has authority to read the keystore can also see the actual key value of 
those clear keys.  (The secure keys are encrypted under the master key, so that 
key material is protected.)  I recommend that only the ICSF address space 
should have authority to the keystore.

In addition, if you use the APIs, then the application must run APF authorized 
to process a clear key.

The last several releases of ICSF have introduced a number of enhancements 
related to key management, so I suspect that somebody, somewhere is working on 
a key management tool (or set of tools) that will provide details about 
existing key records.  Since key management is the hard part of crypto, such a 
tool is sorely needed.

Greg
gregboyd@mainframecrypto.comprehensive
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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Joseph Reichman
You are right the entire page has the same key

The only thing I wasn't sure was the format 

I have always seen TPROT D1(B1),0 checking for a translation error what i you 
wanted to check 

For a specific key 1 - 15

Thanks 

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 6:03 PM, J R  wrote:
> 
> One other thing:  If you do use TPROT, you don't need to loop along the 
> target.  Just the first byte is good unless it crosses a page boundary. In 
> that case you need to TPROT one byte in each page that the target occupies. 
> 
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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread J R
One other thing:  If you do use TPROT, you don't need to loop along the target. 
 Just the first byte is good unless it crosses a page boundary. In that case 
you need to TPROT one byte in each page that the target occupies. 

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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thank you so much 🤗



> On Feb 19, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Binyamin Dissen  
> wrote:
> 
> You would use R2 directly in your example.
> 
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:06:28 -0500 Joseph Reichman 
> wrote:
> 
> :>Thanks 
> :>
> :>One more question just related to TPROT usage can you tell me if this makes 
> sense
> :>  I do IPK to get a user psw storage key in R2 
> :>
> :>For example 
> :>
> :>PSW_KEY   DS 0D
> :>DS F
> :>R2_KEY.  DS F
> :>
> :>  XR   R2,R2
> :>  IPK
> :>   ST   R2,R2_KEY
> :>   TPROTSTORAGE,PSW_KEY
> :>
> :>
> :>
> :>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Binyamin Dissen  
> wrote:
> :>> 
> :>> Best approach would be to have the SRB caller tell it what key to use. 
> And if
> :>> you get the S0C4, it means that the SRB was improperly called.
> :>> 
> :>> Much more logical to catch in an FRR rather than to play 'what if'.
> :>> 
> :>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:18:18 -0500 Joseph Reichman 
> :>> wrote:
> :>> 
> :>> :>I'am  accessing storage in a different address space 
> :>> :>Via an SRB and don't want to get a S0C4 I realize that in this case 
> PSATOLD  will be zero and I will be running in key zero but I was using 
> TCBPKF as an example 
> :>> :>
> :>> :>I'm not quite sure of the second operand usage 
> :>> :>Seems the same as the shift instructions 
> :>> :>If for instance I wanted to check out weather a TCB could access that 
> storage would I move the 1 byte TCBPKF field to a double word and shift  it 
> to bits 56-59 ?
> :>> :>
> :>> :>Thanks for your help 
> :>> :>
> :>> :>
> :>> :>
> :>> :>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Binyamin Dissen 
>  wrote:
> :>> :>> 
> :>> :>> You do realize, of course, without disablement and/or locks the 
> storage
> :>> :>> attributes can change after you check them?
> :>> :>> 
> :>> :>> Why do you need to know?
> :>> :>> 
> :>> :>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:34:29 -0500 Joe Reichman 
>  wrote:
> :>> :>> 
> :>> :>> :>Hi,
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> 
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :>If I would like to access say 20 bytes of core (to see if I have 
> both fetch
> :>> :>> :>and store capability) I would have to loop incrementing B1 checking 
> against
> :>> :>> :>TCBPKF (where TCB is pointing to PSATOLD)
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> 
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> 
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> LA   R0,20
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> LAR2,STORSCESS
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :>LOOP   TPR0T  0(R2),TCBPKF
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> BC 7,CANTACESS   
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> LA R2,1(,R2)
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> BCT  R0,LOOP
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> 
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :>Thanks 
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :> 
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> :>
> :>> :>> 
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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You would use R2 directly in your example.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:06:28 -0500 Joseph Reichman 
wrote:

:>Thanks 
:>
:>One more question just related to TPROT usage can you tell me if this makes 
sense
:>  I do IPK to get a user psw storage key in R2 
:>
:>For example 
:>
:>PSW_KEY   DS 0D
:>DS F
:>R2_KEY.  DS F
:>
:>  XR   R2,R2
:>  IPK
:>   ST   R2,R2_KEY
:>   TPROTSTORAGE,PSW_KEY
:>
:>
:>
:>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Binyamin Dissen  
wrote:
:>> 
:>> Best approach would be to have the SRB caller tell it what key to use. And 
if
:>> you get the S0C4, it means that the SRB was improperly called.
:>> 
:>> Much more logical to catch in an FRR rather than to play 'what if'.
:>> 
:>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:18:18 -0500 Joseph Reichman 
:>> wrote:
:>> 
:>> :>I'am  accessing storage in a different address space 
:>> :>Via an SRB and don't want to get a S0C4 I realize that in this case 
PSATOLD  will be zero and I will be running in key zero but I was using TCBPKF 
as an example 
:>> :>
:>> :>I'm not quite sure of the second operand usage 
:>> :>Seems the same as the shift instructions 
:>> :>If for instance I wanted to check out weather a TCB could access that 
storage would I move the 1 byte TCBPKF field to a double word and shift  it to 
bits 56-59 ?
:>> :>
:>> :>Thanks for your help 
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>
:>> :>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Binyamin Dissen 
 wrote:
:>> :>> 
:>> :>> You do realize, of course, without disablement and/or locks the storage
:>> :>> attributes can change after you check them?
:>> :>> 
:>> :>> Why do you need to know?
:>> :>> 
:>> :>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:34:29 -0500 Joe Reichman  
wrote:
:>> :>> 
:>> :>> :>Hi,
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> 
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>If I would like to access say 20 bytes of core (to see if I have both 
fetch
:>> :>> :>and store capability) I would have to loop incrementing B1 checking 
against
:>> :>> :>TCBPKF (where TCB is pointing to PSATOLD)
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> 
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> 
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> LA   R0,20
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> LAR2,STORSCESS
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>LOOP   TPR0T  0(R2),TCBPKF
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> BC 7,CANTACESS   
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> LA R2,1(,R2)
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> BCT  R0,LOOP
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> 
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>Thanks 
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :> 
:>> :>> :>
:>> :>> :>
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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks 

One more question just related to TPROT usage can you tell me if this makes 
sense
  I do IPK to get a user psw storage key in R2 

For example 

PSW_KEY   DS 0D
DS F
R2_KEY.  DS F

  XR   R2,R2
  IPK
   ST   R2,R2_KEY
   TPROTSTORAGE,PSW_KEY



> On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Binyamin Dissen  
> wrote:
> 
> Best approach would be to have the SRB caller tell it what key to use. And if
> you get the S0C4, it means that the SRB was improperly called.
> 
> Much more logical to catch in an FRR rather than to play 'what if'.
> 
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:18:18 -0500 Joseph Reichman 
> wrote:
> 
> :>I'am  accessing storage in a different address space 
> :>Via an SRB and don't want to get a S0C4 I realize that in this case PSATOLD 
>  will be zero and I will be running in key zero but I was using TCBPKF as an 
> example 
> :>
> :>I'm not quite sure of the second operand usage 
> :>Seems the same as the shift instructions 
> :>If for instance I wanted to check out weather a TCB could access that 
> storage would I move the 1 byte TCBPKF field to a double word and shift  it 
> to bits 56-59 ?
> :>
> :>Thanks for your help 
> :>
> :>
> :>
> :>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Binyamin Dissen  
> wrote:
> :>> 
> :>> You do realize, of course, without disablement and/or locks the storage
> :>> attributes can change after you check them?
> :>> 
> :>> Why do you need to know?
> :>> 
> :>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:34:29 -0500 Joe Reichman  
> wrote:
> :>> 
> :>> :>Hi,
> :>> :>
> :>> :> 
> :>> :>
> :>> :>If I would like to access say 20 bytes of core (to see if I have both 
> fetch
> :>> :>and store capability) I would have to loop incrementing B1 checking 
> against
> :>> :>TCBPKF (where TCB is pointing to PSATOLD)
> :>> :>
> :>> :> 
> :>> :>
> :>> :> 
> :>> :>
> :>> :> LA   R0,20
> :>> :>
> :>> :> LAR2,STORSCESS
> :>> :>
> :>> :>LOOP   TPR0T  0(R2),TCBPKF
> :>> :>
> :>> :> BC 7,CANTACESS   
> :>> :>
> :>> :> LA R2,1(,R2)
> :>> :>
> :>> :> BCT  R0,LOOP
> :>> :>
> :>> :> 
> :>> :>
> :>> :>Thanks 
> :>> :>
> :>> :> 
> :>> :>
> :>> :>
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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Best approach would be to have the SRB caller tell it what key to use. And if
you get the S0C4, it means that the SRB was improperly called.

Much more logical to catch in an FRR rather than to play 'what if'.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:18:18 -0500 Joseph Reichman 
wrote:

:>I'am  accessing storage in a different address space 
:>Via an SRB and don't want to get a S0C4 I realize that in this case PSATOLD  
will be zero and I will be running in key zero but I was using TCBPKF as an 
example 
:>
:>I'm not quite sure of the second operand usage 
:>Seems the same as the shift instructions 
:>If for instance I wanted to check out weather a TCB could access that storage 
would I move the 1 byte TCBPKF field to a double word and shift  it to bits 
56-59 ?
:>
:>Thanks for your help 
:>
:>
:>
:>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Binyamin Dissen  
wrote:
:>> 
:>> You do realize, of course, without disablement and/or locks the storage
:>> attributes can change after you check them?
:>> 
:>> Why do you need to know?
:>> 
:>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:34:29 -0500 Joe Reichman  
wrote:
:>> 
:>> :>Hi,
:>> :>
:>> :> 
:>> :>
:>> :>If I would like to access say 20 bytes of core (to see if I have both 
fetch
:>> :>and store capability) I would have to loop incrementing B1 checking 
against
:>> :>TCBPKF (where TCB is pointing to PSATOLD)
:>> :>
:>> :> 
:>> :>
:>> :> 
:>> :>
:>> :> LA   R0,20
:>> :>
:>> :> LAR2,STORSCESS
:>> :>
:>> :>LOOP   TPR0T  0(R2),TCBPKF
:>> :>
:>> :> BC 7,CANTACESS   
:>> :>
:>> :> LA R2,1(,R2)
:>> :>
:>> :> BCT  R0,LOOP
:>> :>
:>> :> 
:>> :>
:>> :>Thanks 
:>> :>
:>> :> 
:>> :>
:>> :>
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Re: Question on an HMC's ethernet adapter

2017-02-19 Thread Mike Myers

Parwez:

Thanks for the detailed info. ]I haven't personally seen the HMC for 
some time as I provide remote support. I know it is a mini-tower, so I 
guess it is the 8485, which should hopefully have an expansion slot or 
more for a replacement or additional ethernet adapter card. I am going 
to have someone at the university take a look before I go over there 
later this week to fix the problem and do some other physical work. I am 
able to access the HMC itself remotely so that connection is good, but 
the connection to the HMC-SE LAN is the one that is failing, as I cannot 
access SE functions, such as single object operations from the HMC. And 
I found a hardware message indicating the adapter failure.


Mike

On 02/19/2017 12:41 PM, Parwez Hamid wrote:

Mike,

2827-HA1 is the machine type and model for the z9 itself. That's no good. What 
is required is the same info for the PC which has the HMC code.

My guess is the machine type is likely to be 8141 (Feature Code 0079) or 8485 
(Feature Code 0081). 8141 is a desktop PC and the 8485 is a 'mini tower' PC. 
Both had a single Ethernet port on the motherboard as standard. If these were 
supplied with dual Ethernet configurations (at the time customers had a option 
of Token Ring also) then the 2nd port would have been supplied as a Ethernet 
adapter in one of the expansion slots.

Unless someone in your data centre knows better, it will have to be a physical' 
check of the HMC.

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Re: Question on an HMC's ethernet adapter

2017-02-19 Thread Parwez Hamid
Mike,

2827-HA1 is the machine type and model for the z9 itself. That's no good. What 
is required is the same info for the PC which has the HMC code.

My guess is the machine type is likely to be 8141 (Feature Code 0079) or 8485 
(Feature Code 0081). 8141 is a desktop PC and the 8485 is a 'mini tower' PC. 
Both had a single Ethernet port on the motherboard as standard. If these were 
supplied with dual Ethernet configurations (at the time customers had a option 
of Token Ring also) then the 2nd port would have been supplied as a Ethernet 
adapter in one of the expansion slots.  

Unless someone in your data centre knows better, it will have to be a physical' 
check of the HMC.

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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Joseph Reichman
I'am  accessing storage in a different address space 
Via an SRB and don't want to get a S0C4 I realize that in this case PSATOLD  
will be zero and I will be running in key zero but I was using TCBPKF as an 
example 

I'm not quite sure of the second operand usage 
Seems the same as the shift instructions 
If for instance I wanted to check out weather a TCB could access that storage 
would I move the 1 byte TCBPKF field to a double word and shift  it to bits 
56-59 ?

Thanks for your help 



> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Binyamin Dissen  
> wrote:
> 
> You do realize, of course, without disablement and/or locks the storage
> attributes can change after you check them?
> 
> Why do you need to know?
> 
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:34:29 -0500 Joe Reichman  wrote:
> 
> :>Hi,
> :>
> :> 
> :>
> :>If I would like to access say 20 bytes of core (to see if I have both fetch
> :>and store capability) I would have to loop incrementing B1 checking against
> :>TCBPKF (where TCB is pointing to PSATOLD)
> :>
> :> 
> :>
> :> 
> :>
> :> LA   R0,20
> :>
> :> LAR2,STORSCESS
> :>
> :>LOOP   TPR0T  0(R2),TCBPKF
> :>
> :> BC 7,CANTACESS   
> :>
> :> LA R2,1(,R2)
> :>
> :> BCT  R0,LOOP
> :>
> :> 
> :>
> :>Thanks 
> :>
> :> 
> :>
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Re: TPROT question

2017-02-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You do realize, of course, without disablement and/or locks the storage
attributes can change after you check them?

Why do you need to know?

On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:34:29 -0500 Joe Reichman  wrote:

:>Hi,
:>
:> 
:>
:>If I would like to access say 20 bytes of core (to see if I have both fetch
:>and store capability) I would have to loop incrementing B1 checking against
:>TCBPKF (where TCB is pointing to PSATOLD)
:>
:> 
:>
:> 
:>
:> LA   R0,20
:>
:> LAR2,STORSCESS
:>
:>LOOP   TPR0T  0(R2),TCBPKF
:>
:> BC 7,CANTACESS   
:>
:> LA R2,1(,R2)
:>
:> BCT  R0,LOOP
:>
:> 
:>
:>Thanks 
:>
:> 
:>
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Re: Question on an HMC's ethernet adapter

2017-02-19 Thread Mike Myers

Parwez:

Thanks for the reply. The HMC is a 2827-HA1.

Mike

On 02/19/2017 03:06 AM, Parwez Hamid wrote:

It depends on your HMC PC model. Some older HMCs had Ethernet cards and the 
'newer' ones have Ethernet ports built-in the motherboard of the HMC PC.

The minimum info the SR would need is the Machine Type and Model of the HMC 
e.g: -123. This is important as over time, like all x86 PCs, these are 
'refreshed'. Your z9 HMC may have come with the System or even be an older one 
if the z9 was upgraded from a prior generation.

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Re: Question on an HMC's ethernet adapter

2017-02-19 Thread Parwez Hamid
It depends on your HMC PC model. Some older HMCs had Ethernet cards and the 
'newer' ones have Ethernet ports built-in the motherboard of the HMC PC.

The minimum info the SR would need is the Machine Type and Model of the HMC 
e.g: -123. This is important as over time, like all x86 PCs, these are 
'refreshed'. Your z9 HMC may have come with the System or even be an older one 
if the z9 was upgraded from a prior generation.

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