Re: Systems Programming / Operations support services in USA/Canada

2022-02-02 Thread Brian Westerman
I see his point.  Maybe the companies could list the number of z/OS clients 
they support and/or the number of consultants on staff.  For Syzygy, Inc. we 
have 105 active z/OS support clients/sites, 11 cross-support (z/OS software 
vendor) clients, 313 software clients (sites that run only our Syzygy software 
and not use any of our services), and 29 z/OS consultants, with several (I'm 
not sure how many, but I think not more than 9) "non-technical support" 
personnel, (i.e. accounts receivable, marketing etc.).  We work with all (that 
we know of :) ) IBM and non-IBM z/OS Vendor software.  

We are not anywhere near as big as IBM, but we also don't try to support the 
entire world.  We only work with z/OS sites (and z/VM if it is there to run 
z/OS), and we have several long-term contracts with IBM and other software 
vendors to maintain and upgrade their z/OS based software.

I'm sure that there are many, many "one band man" companies as well, but I 
think they tend to only support 1 (or maybe 2) small clients at a time, and 
tend to be fairly limited in the scope of the sub-system software they work 
with/on.  We really don't consider them competition.  Not because they aren't 
any good, but because they tend to provide their services on a much smaller and 
limited scope and to a (normally) different type of client that may not want 
very much in the way of "total" support capability. 

Brian   

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:46:55 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka  
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>> Subject: Systems Programming / Operations support services in USA/Canada
>>
>> I am trying to build a list of companies in the USA or Canada that do 
>> contract systems programming / operations support for z/OS, z/VSE, and/or 
>> z/VM. I am not looking for outsourcers, just companies that can provide this 
>> sort of service on a long term basis. I don't believe this is such a thing 
>> (at least I can't find one) so any advice / suggestions would be 
>> appreciated. You can reply here or via e-mail. Thanks in advance.
>
>IMHO there are many "one man band" companies or very small teams. Their
>names can be collected, but what is a reason to put them along with big
>players?
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ZDNT L:earners Edition application process update

2022-02-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I was informed today by a source inside IBM that the ZD&T application process 
for the new Learners Edition version had been in limbo for a while due to 
internal IBM issues.

My source tells me that the application process is getting back into gear now 
and will hopefully proceed better from here on.  For those of us who applied 
but had not heard anything back yet, this is good news.

If anyone else who also already applied (or are considering doing so) wants any 
more details please reply ***PRIVATELY*** to pjfarley3 at earthlink dot net 
(not to this address please, this is my employee email) and I will tell you 
what I can.

Peter

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Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:12:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>Out in the wider world, "Because I want to view directories on a 3270." is not 
>as valid reason to tell users that they can't use their native languages for 
>file names. Maybe we need an RFE for ISPF to support the EBCDIC transform of 
>Unicode, along with a TN3270 client that supports it.
> 
ISPF 3.17 works splendidly for files tagged UTF-8 "with a TN3270 client that
supports" thee characters in the content.

Alas, there's no way to tag the directory.

Alas, may decades ago ISPF Design issued a negative Statement of Direction;
that no terminal better than a 327x would ever be supported.

Still, I dream of a ported FOSS graphic file manager such as Thunar or Nautilus
as an X11 client.

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Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread ITschak Mugzach
I solved the problem. The issue was that in TSO I use /* MugiRexx */ to
mark the language to the interpreter. Under uss the interpreter does not
recognise the language and I needed to change it to /* Rex */.

Stupid issue…
ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 2 בפבר׳ 2022 ב-20:53 מאת Hamilton, Robert :

> Tried a few things…
>
> …uppercase on the REXX vs. lower case….nope.
>
>
>
> SYS: > ./myrexx.rex
>
> Hello World!!!
>
> SYS: >
>
>
>
> …Added
>
>  #!/usr/local/bin/rexx
>
> As the first line:
>
>
>
> SYS: > ./myrexx.rex
>
> [1] + Done(137) ./myrexx.rex
>
>   67109339  Killed  ./myrexx.rex
>
> SYS: >
>
>
>
> That was pretty impressive, too.
>
> Nothing I’ve tried gives me the message you got. I have different PATH
> settings, I’m sure, but you specify it with the  directory>/filename.ext format, so…there shouldn’t be any problem finding
> it. File and directory permissions are ok, or you’d have other problems,
> I’m sure. I messed with both the directory and file permissions, but my
> userid is a superuser, so nothing prevented it from running.
>
>
>
> Do you need RACF permissions? Sorry; running out of suggestions.
>
>
>
> R;
>
>
>
> Rob Hamilton
> Infrastructure Engineer
> Chemical Abstracts Service
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> *From:* Itschak Mugzach 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 2, 2022 12:59 PM
> *To:* Hamilton, Robert 
> *Subject:* [EXT] Re: USS Rexx mistery
>
>
>
> [Actual Sender is i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il]
>
> Rob, I did. It was interpreter issue recognising the type of program.
>
>
>
> ITschak
>
>
>
> בתאריך יום ד׳, 2 בפבר׳ 2022 ב-19:52 מאת Hamilton, Robert <
> rhamil...@cas.org>:
>
> I hate to ask...did you check the file permissions? It needs to be marked
> executable with something like,
>
>chmod 777 myexec.rex
>
> before it will run.
>
> R;
>
>
> Rob Hamilton
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> -Original Message-
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> Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
> it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
> /* rexx */
> Say 'Hello World'
>
> I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
> and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found
>
> What am I missing?
>
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Re: [TSO-REXX] USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Feb 2, 2022, at 07:45:40, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> 
> Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
> it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
> /* rexx */
> Say 'Hello World'
> 
> I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
> and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
Appending an old discussion from MVS-OE.  My perception is that
William Schoen's prosal would not fix the problem, but break it
further.  I have seen even worse behavior when exec() correctly
specifies a path to a Rexx exec which is not in PATH, but PATH
contains a file which is not Rexx.

A proper fix would make the "path" argument work correctly for Rexx


> On Jun 26, 2018, at 17:36:18, William Schoen  wrote:
> 
> You remember correctly.
> I forgot about that behavior.
> It was not intended and should have been fixed some time ago.
> If you find it still does that please open a PMR.
> As I recall this should have been fixed such that the first argument and
> program name must resolve to the same file node.
> 
> Bill Schoen
> 
> MVS OpenEdition  wrote on 06/26/2018 05:47:12 PM:
> 
>> From: Paul Gilmartin 
>> To: mvs...@vm.marist.edu
>> Date: 06/26/2018 05:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: REXX shell script - start a flame war?
>> Sent by: MVS OpenEdition 
>> 
>> On 2018-06-26, at 14:54:08, William Schoen wrote:
>> 
>>> I misunderstood.  It still works that way.  pathname and arg_stem.1
> must
>>> match.
>>> 
>> That was not my experience.  If arg_stem.1 resolved to a valid Rexx
>> EXEC it executed that instead.  Sometimes with astonishing results.
>> 
>>> Whether it is rexx or C, the first argument must match the pathname.
>>> 
>> Again, not my understanding.  C always executes the pathname program,
>> passing it the caller's argv[0].
>> 
>>> Conventionally, arg[0] contains the program name.  REXX requires that.
> I
>>> won't go into why.
>>> 
>> Many years ago, you said there simply weren't enough arguments in the
>> interface to the interpreter.  That could have been fixed (alternate
>> entry point?)  I suspect the TSO folks were offended by the requirement
>> to support for OMVS and dug in their heels wherever they could.
>> Likewise you said in that era that you had campaigned for TRACE and
>> message output to go to stderr (as Regina does by default) but your
>> equest was denied.
>> 
>> The Rexx base defended their territory and the customers suffered.'

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Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread René Jansen
sorry, I misspoke to soon, did not see which list this was. On USS you will not 
need a shebang, /* rexx */ should be enough.

Only thing I can image now is a casing error: uss is case sensitive.

best regards,

ené.


> On 2 Feb 2022, at 16:50, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> If you want to start it with ./myexec.rex it needs a shebang.
> 
> René.
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2022, at 15:45, ITschak Mugzach  wrote:
>> 
>> Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
>> it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
>> /* rexx */
>> Say 'Hello World'
>> 
>> I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
>> and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found
>> 
>> What am I missing?
>> 
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Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread René Jansen
If you want to start it with ./myexec.rex it needs a shebang.

René.

> On 2 Feb 2022, at 15:45, ITschak Mugzach  wrote:
> 
> Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
> it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
> /* rexx */
> Say 'Hello World'
> 
> I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
> and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
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Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread Itschak Mugzach
My problem is 'not found', not 'canot execute'. and it already has 777

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On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 5:26 PM Carmen Vitullo  wrote:

> When I try your sample without any changing any file attributes I get
>
> cannot execute
>
> chmod a+x /u/user/myexec.rex
>
> get the results desired
>
> Hello World
>
> Carmen
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> On 2/2/2022 8:45 AM, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> > Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
> > it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
> > /* rexx */
> > Say 'Hello World'
> >
> > I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
> > and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found
> >
> > What am I missing?
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Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread Carmen Vitullo

When I try your sample without any changing any file attributes I get

cannot execute

chmod a+x /u/user/myexec.rex

get the results desired

Hello World

Carmen

On 2/2/2022 8:45 AM, ITschak Mugzach wrote:

Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
/* rexx */
Say 'Hello World'

I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found

What am I missing?

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Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
This worked for me - could your default file permissions not include execute 
(x) ?

SPLBD:/home/splbd/tmp: >dir 
   
total 34
   
drwxrwxrwx   2 SPLBDSYS18192 Feb  2 06:53 . 
   
drwxr-xr-x  17 SPLBDSYS18192 Feb  2 06:52 ..
   
- untaggedT=off -rwx--   1 SPLBDSYS1  30 Feb  2 06:53 
test.rex 
SPLBD:/home/splbd/tmp: >./test.rex  
   
Hello World!
   


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Subject: USS Rexx mistery

Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place it in 
a directory. it onl;y have the following :
/* rexx */
Say 'Hello World'

I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory and ls 
-l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found

What am I missing?

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USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-02 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Co-posted to IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX I write a small rexx program and place
it in a directory. it onl;y have the following :
/* rexx */
Say 'Hello World'

I start the exec with ./myexec.rex while pwd shows the correct directory
and ls -l shows the exe. it returns BPXWI Exec not found

What am I missing?

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Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Out in the wider world, "Because I want to view directories on a 3270." is not 
as valid reason to tell users that they can't use their native languages for 
file names. Maybe we need an RFE for ISPF to support the EBCDIC transform of 
Unicode, along with a TN3270 client that supports it.


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

W dniu 01.02.2022 o 18:26, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 23:30:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka  wrote:
>>> 517 $ ls -altr
>>> total 32
>>> drwxr-xr-x  4 paulgilm  wheel  128 Jan 29 15:20 ..
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:22 נַפְתָּלִי בֶּנֶט
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:24 Владимир Путин
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:28 عبدالحميد محمد الدبيبة
>>> -rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:30 Κατερίνα Σακελλαροπούλου
>>> drwxr-xr-x  6 paulgilm  wheel  192 Jan 29 15:31 .
>>> 518 $
>> Just to clarify: do you see the names as above in your 3270 emulator
>> window?
>>
> I have never had a UNICODE-capable 3270 emulator.  Does one exist?

So, I guess, you won't be able to view such nice filenames in 3270
emulator. It could mean some inconvenience.
Let's imagine you have to use pathname in your JCL job. Or in some
script. Or just type it in command line. More inconvenience.
And that's what I meant when joined discussion.
 From the other hand we have dataset names and more strict rules. And no
such troubles.
And I still did not get any answer for the following: Why do you want to
use such names?
No, "because I can" is IMHO not worth the problems described above.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Copy BookManager Read & Library Server to 2.4

2022-02-02 Thread Randy Hoekstra
Thanks for the better approach. Hadn't thought of that  -- too many years of 
everything SMP!

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Re: Systems Programming / Operations support services in USA/Canada

2022-02-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

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Elliott
Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2022 10:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Systems Programming / Operations support services in USA/Canada

I am trying to build a list of companies in the USA or Canada that do contract 
systems programming / operations support for z/OS, z/VSE, and/or z/VM. I am not 
looking for outsourcers, just companies that can provide this sort of service 
on a long term basis. I don't believe this is such a thing (at least I can't 
find one) so any advice / suggestions would be appreciated. You can reply here 
or via e-mail. Thanks in advance.


IMHO there are many "one man band" companies or very small teams. Their 
names can be collected, but what is a reason to put them along with big 
players?



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Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka

W dniu 01.02.2022 o 18:26, Paul Gilmartin pisze:

On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 23:30:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka  wrote:

517 $ ls -altr
total 32
drwxr-xr-x  4 paulgilm  wheel  128 Jan 29 15:20 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:22 נַפְתָּלִי בֶּנֶט
-rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:24 Владимир Путин
-rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:28 عبدالحميد محمد الدبيبة
-rw-r--r--  1 paulgilm  wheel   29 Jan 29 15:30 Κατερίνα Σακελλαροπούλου
drwxr-xr-x  6 paulgilm  wheel  192 Jan 29 15:31 .
518 $

Just to clarify: do you see the names as above in your 3270 emulator
window?


I have never had a UNICODE-capable 3270 emulator.  Does one exist?


So, I guess, you won't be able to view such nice filenames in 3270 
emulator. It could mean some inconvenience.
Let's imagine you have to use pathname in your JCL job. Or in some 
script. Or just type it in command line. More inconvenience.

And that's what I meant when joined discussion.
From the other hand we have dataset names and more strict rules. And no 
such troubles.
And I still did not get any answer for the following: Why do you want to 
use such names?

No, "because I can" is IMHO not worth the problems described above.

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Lodz, Poland

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Re: Time discrepancy

2022-02-02 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Fernando de Noronha is an amazing place, but unfortunately i'm not there.

I'm playing with a small ZPDT and probably there are time issues in this server.

Anyway, thank you all for your time and attention.


Best Regards

Ituriel






Em terça-feira, 1 de fevereiro de 2022 16:42:27 BRT, Paul Gilmartin 
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu: 





On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:13:03 +, Ituriel do Neto wrote:
>
>Thank you for your time.
>
You're welcome.

>Adding the login option in BPXWUNIX did the trick.
>    ...
>To correct it, I had to include CEEOPTS DD card as below :
>
>//CEEOPTS   DD   *   
>ENVAR('TZ=GMT-2')    
>
>It did the trick, but i still don't know why this time difference, since z/OS 
>D T command show me the correct timezone.
>
(I'm guessing) C uses TZ; D T uses CVTLDTO
.
Different hands; different motives.  Thus my rant about consistency a few plies 
ago.

Can you (do you need to) make your code portable by such as:
    putenv( system( "TZ=$( echo $TZ )" )?  (needs work.)

BTW, the only place I see on the map that matches your TZ offset is Fernando de 
Noronha.
Do I guess right?

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Re: Systems Programming / Operations support services in USA/Canada

2022-02-02 Thread David Elliot
Out of idle curiosity, what would you do with such a list?

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 11:09 AM Jim Elliott  wrote:

> I am trying to build a list of companies in the USA or Canada that do
> contract systems programming / operations support for z/OS, z/VSE, and/or
> z/VM. I am not looking for outsourcers, just companies that can provide
> this sort of service on a long term basis. I don't believe this is such a
> thing (at least I can't find one) so any advice / suggestions would be
> appreciated. You can reply here or via e-mail. Thanks in advance.
>
> Jim Elliott
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